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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 28, 2020 7:15:58 GMT
linkAn interesting read in this morning's Sentinel. Speaks fondly of us - with a bit about Crouchie and Ryan. I wonder if we would still have been in the Premier League if Buutland hadn't got his place back? Possibly it wouldn't have made much difference to our history but it just might have done.
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Post by lordb on Jul 28, 2020 7:20:43 GMT
linkAn interesting read in this morning's Sentinel. Speaks fondly of with a bit about Crouchie. I wonder if we would still have been in the Premier if Buutland hadn't got his place back? Butland cost us two goals, Leicester away (massive clanger) when we were winning and comfortable and less obviously he punched when perhaps he could have caught at West Ham when we were winning but very uncomfortable. Who knows what would have happened. What we do know is Grant was excellent for us. |
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 28, 2020 7:58:09 GMT
I think staying up that season wouldâve only delayed the drop to the following year. The rot was too deep, and while Grant might have got us a few more points that season, our problems were a lot wider than just Jack.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Jul 28, 2020 8:03:10 GMT
linkAn interesting read in this morning's Sentinel. Speaks fondly of us - with a bit about Crouchie and Ryan. I wonder if we would still have been in the Premier League if Buutland hadn't got his place back? Possibly it wouldn't have made much difference to our history but it just might have done. I saw Grant give a superb display at Old Trafford, I think it was the season before we were relegated.I suspect he was underrated by the powers that be. |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 28, 2020 8:40:24 GMT
He was a fantastic keeper for us.
His performance at Old Trafford was one of the best individual performances I've seen.
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Post by Gods on Jul 28, 2020 8:48:50 GMT
We only needed 3 more points to stay up, well 4 with GD.
So 2 draws to become wins...
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 28, 2020 9:07:06 GMT
linkAn interesting read in this morning's Sentinel. Speaks fondly of us - with a bit about Crouchie and Ryan. I wonder if we would still have been in the Premier League if Buutland hadn't got his place back? Possibly it wouldn't have made much difference to our history but it just might have done. I saw Grant give a superb display at Old Trafford, I think it was the season before we were relegated.I suspect he was underrated by the powers that be. I can see why Butland got his place back when he regained fitness - he was our prized asset before his injury, after all. My criticism is that he kept his place so easily once it became clear that he had lost "something" after the injury. Not only would Grant have been the better option at the time, being dropped MIGHT have prompted Butland to sort out whatever problems he was having post injury. No guarantees, of course, but I do think it was a mistake not to look at the two keepers and say "at the moment Grant is by far the better option." I do accept that hindsight is a wonderful thing though.  |
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Post by OldStokie on Jul 28, 2020 12:23:21 GMT
It's all hindsight. At that time Jsck was still regarded as one of the best in the country and was just coming back from injury. Nobody could have foreseen how badly that injury would have affected him. Granty was 34? by then. In hindsight I think had we kept Granty and played him as No 1 then we would have avoided relegation. But having watched all that video, it's nice to know that everything that happened to Granty after he left Derby was a just reward for what he did for us. Top man is Granty and no blame whatsoever can be aimed at him for what happened to us.
OS.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 28, 2020 12:46:18 GMT
Wonder if we could loan him back from united next season??? đ¤
Him and Davies fighting it out for top spot!!!
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Post by wembley4372 on Jul 28, 2020 13:00:46 GMT
linkAn interesting read in this morning's Sentinel. Speaks fondly of us - with a bit about Crouchie and Ryan. I wonder if we would still have been in the Premier League if Buutland hadn't got his place back? Possibly it wouldn't have made much difference to our history but it just might have done. What would have made a difference was taking a penalty and scoring! |
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Post by logdog on Jul 28, 2020 14:38:41 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 28, 2020 15:21:09 GMT
What a great keeper he turned out to be in his short spell here. It would be great to see him involved with the club again in the future. His experience would be invaluable to any young keeper.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 28, 2020 17:13:21 GMT
What a great keeper he turned out to be in his short spell here. It would be great to see him involved with the club again in the future. His experience would be invaluable to any young keeper. Is he doing his coaching badges? Does anyone know? |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 28, 2020 20:23:16 GMT
I read that as not the norm for a Championship player to already be at Premier League level. |
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Jul 28, 2020 21:47:38 GMT
Great story...
Should have been a top keeper for years
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jul 28, 2020 21:51:28 GMT
linkAn interesting read in this morning's Sentinel. Speaks fondly of us - with a bit about Crouchie and Ryan. I wonder if we would still have been in the Premier League if Buutland hadn't got his place back? Possibly it wouldn't have made much difference to our history but it just might have done. Inspirational stuff there from Lee Grant. Some of the big money wasters who have passed through our doors should read that article and hang their heads in shame. |
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Post by oldschool on Jul 28, 2020 22:11:30 GMT
It's all hindsight. At that time Jsck was still regarded as one of the best in the country and was just coming back from injury. Nobody could have foreseen how badly that injury would have affected him. Wardy was 34? by then. In hindsight I think had we kept Wardy and played him as No 1 then we would have avoided relegation. But having watched all that video, it's nice to know that everything that happened to Wardy after he left Derby was a just reward for what he did for us. Top man is Wardy and no blame whatsoever can be aimed at him for what happened to us. OS. Gavin Ward played for us in the prem? đ |
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 29, 2020 9:29:58 GMT
What a great keeper he turned out to be in his short spell here. It would be great to see him involved with the club again in the future. His experience would be invaluable to any young keeper. Is he doing his coaching badges? Does anyone know? Not a clue. He speaks about us with high praise and seems so grateful for having the opportunity. He comes across like a really decent person and being around Man Utd can only add to his experience. If he does eventually become a coach I'm sure he will do a great job for someone. His story is told with much respect and integrity and not an ounce of arrogance, the kind of person people should want around their club. |
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Post by OldStokie on Jul 29, 2020 10:25:52 GMT
It's all hindsight. At that time Jsck was still regarded as one of the best in the country and was just coming back from injury. Nobody could have foreseen how badly that injury would have affected him. Wardy was 34? by then. In hindsight I think had we kept Wardy and played him as No 1 then we would have avoided relegation. But having watched all that video, it's nice to know that everything that happened to Wardy after he left Derby was a just reward for what he did for us. Top man is Wardy and no blame whatsoever can be aimed at him for what happened to us. OS. Gavin Ward played for us in the prem? đ  Old age can be a bastard at times. (Edited now.) OS. |
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