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Post by apb1 on Jul 23, 2020 16:48:53 GMT
Starting 7 weeks Saturday  So many shite teams, many of them finishing above us. Surely we can expect a top 8 finish at least. Here are the runners and riders Prem Descenders (3) - even if they are not good, they will surely be monied and expected to be thereabouts (remember that) Bournemouth/Villa (I think they'll stay up tho)/Watford might Bournemouth struggle? Norwich - seemed so bad this year could drop like a stone? Always one team that is a let down... Pipped in the Play Offs (3) - I'm assuming Fulham make it. Brentford/Cardiff/Swansea - we've beaten all of them, not seen anything major to fear, but of course they have the ability to beat us too. Sleeping giants (5) Derby/Forest would all expect to do better this year. Have they got money? Sheff Wed are drifting though, Could Boro revive? is Warnock not staying? Brum stuffed? Middle ranking (7) - Millwall, Preston, Blackburn, Bristol C, QPR, Reading, Hudd. We should be able to push on past this group. Minnows (2) - Luton, Barnsley Up and coming (3) Cov, Roth and Wyc. Not likely to push for promotion. That just leaves us. Slugging it out with 2 relegateds, two play off flops, two sleeping giants, two middle rankers, one surprise packet. Like I said, top 10 (did I say 8?) here we come |
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Post by neddy on Jul 23, 2020 17:13:11 GMT
I think Norwich will be up there!
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Post by bobstokie on Jul 23, 2020 17:17:13 GMT
Losing Wigan for Barnsley is good and if 2 from brum weds and derby go instead of Charlton and hull even better unlikely I know but we would never get a better chance of going up coymp
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Post by neddy on Jul 23, 2020 17:18:15 GMT
I’d prefer Watford down than villa?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 17:48:19 GMT
I'm not saying we'll win the league, but we'll definitely be in the top one of this tinpot league.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 23, 2020 18:13:00 GMT
Top 2 will be between Norwich, Fulham/Brentford and The Mighty Potters.
The rest are dross.
I'll be wiring into the Forest bottom half finish market if it's available, even more so if they keep Lamouchi.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 18:30:15 GMT
Top 2 will be between Norwich, Fulham/Brentford and The Mighty Potters. The rest are dross. I'll be wiring into the Forest bottom half finish market if it's available, even more so if they keep Lamouchi. Im not so sure about Norwich. They have only won 7 of their last 43 League games. That have lost their last 10 games only scoring two goals....that is likely to be 11 after Man City. Their last win was in February. That is some rut to get out of. They'll lose players too I think. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 23, 2020 18:33:40 GMT
Think Norwich will do well. Bournemouth and Watford mid table. Brentford, Derby, will be up there. But Stoke will romp it😏
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 23, 2020 18:33:58 GMT
Hypothetically of course
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Post by themistocles on Jul 23, 2020 18:38:44 GMT
I don't think Norwich will be anywhere near it.
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Post by datguy on Jul 23, 2020 18:41:17 GMT
What's the point in Rotherham coming up?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jul 23, 2020 18:47:51 GMT
Promotion:
The 3 unlucky playoff teams and the 3 relegated prem teams plus Forest and Millwall
Mid-Table / Top-Half:
Preston
Derby
Blackburn
Bristol
Stoke
Reading
Safe / Bottom Half
QPR
Boro
Wednesday
Relegation:
Brum
Luton
Huddersfield
Barnsley
Wycombe
Coventry
Rotherham
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Post by marylandstoke on Jul 23, 2020 19:16:48 GMT
I'm not saying we'll win the league, but we'll definitely be in the top one of this tinpot league. 🙄 You’d better be lumping it on after a statement like that  |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2020 19:19:09 GMT
What's the point in Rotherham coming up? That's what they said about us the last time we were promoted!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 19:20:11 GMT
I'm not saying we'll win the league, but we'll definitely be in the top one of this tinpot league. 🙄 You’d better be lumping it on after a statement like that I'll make sure I lump on the other 23 teams, just to make sure... |
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Post by marylandstoke on Jul 23, 2020 19:21:44 GMT
Top 2 will be between Norwich, Fulham/Brentford and The Mighty Potters. The rest are dross. I'll be wiring into the Forest bottom half finish market if it's available, even more so if they keep Lamouchi. Im not so sure about Norwich. They have only won 7 of their last 43 League games. That have lost their last 10 games only scoring two goals....that is likely to be 11 after Man City. Their last win was in February. That is some rut to get out of. They'll lose players too I think. Think that they will probably lose alice band. Tim Krul will surely get something somewhere? Also think Pukki has been found out once you worked his trick out. |
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Post by harlequin on Jul 23, 2020 19:26:01 GMT
Big guns - Stoke
We'll be right up there next season.
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Post by Kpsje on Jul 23, 2020 19:54:13 GMT
If bournemouth keep eddie howe and their squad together, they will take some stopping.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 23, 2020 19:55:36 GMT
I think Norwich will be ok - they've resigned to going back to the Championship with more less the same side that did well last time. Villa spent big and could easily end up in financial trouble with players who don't want to be there. Bournemouth's bubble has burst and Howe will be off like a shot and Watford are a basket case waiting to happen.
I think it's between Fulham and Brentford to go up and either will be up there next season - and Swansea coming from nowhere might just pull off a surprise.
Forest are a funny one. They actually looked like a decent football team yesterday and I thought us going 1 up was against the run of play. A lot will be down to the manager picking them up and retaining their best players.
Bristol City have got a steady manager in Hughton and might do ok and there is always a left field team that comes from nowhere. I'll go Preston next year but it could be one of about ten clubs.
So Norwich, Brentford/Fulham, Forest, Bristol and Preston.
As for Stoke - I'm going for broke and say we'll make the playoffs and could will get automatic promotion. If you want to know how a team is going to start a season look at how they preformed at the end of the last - and with a truncated preseason this may be a bigger factor than usual. For the first time in about 4 seasons we actually look like a decent team and O'Neill is clearly got an eye on promotion - he's not here to tread water.
Can't wait...
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 23, 2020 19:58:15 GMT
Definitely us.....goooooooooarn Stoke
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 23, 2020 19:58:47 GMT
We're the big guns, we'll win the league by 20pts.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 23, 2020 20:22:55 GMT
Top 2 will be between Norwich, Fulham/Brentford and The Mighty Potters. The rest are dross. I'll be wiring into the Forest bottom half finish market if it's available, even more so if they keep Lamouchi. Im not so sure about Norwich. They have only won 7 of their last 43 League games. That have lost their last 10 games only scoring two goals....that is likely to be 11 after Man City. Their last win was in February. That is some rut to get out of. They'll lose players too I think. I just think their squad is a championship squad. They never invested to make a go of it in the premier league. As you say, it depends on who they keep hold of. Pukki won't have a season like he did last time in the championship. I'm confident of that. |
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Post by davers66 on Jul 23, 2020 20:27:02 GMT
Starting 7 weeks Saturday So many shite teams, many of them finishing above us. Surely we can expect a top 8 finish at least. Here are the runners and riders Prem Descenders (3) - even if they are not good, they will surely be monied and expected to be thereabouts (remember that) Bournemouth/Villa (I think they'll stay up tho)/Watford might Bournemouth struggle? Norwich - seemed so bad this year could drop like a stone? Always one team that is a let down... Pipped in the Play Offs (3) - I'm assuming Fulham make it. Brentford/Cardiff/Swansea - we've beaten all of them, not seen anything major to fear, but of course they have the ability to beat us too. Sleeping giants (5) Derby/Forest would all expect to do better this year. Have they got money? Sheff Wed are drifting though, Could Boro revive? is Warnock not staying? Brum stuffed? Middle ranking (7) - Millwall, Preston, Blackburn, Bristol C, QPR, Reading, Hudd. We should be able to push on past this group. Minnows (2) - Luton, Barnsley Up and coming (3) Cov, Roth and Wyc. Not likely to push for promotion. That just leaves us. Slugging it out with 2 relegateds, two play off flops, two sleeping giants, two middle rankers, one surprise packet. Like I said, top 10 (did I say 8?) here we come For the big guns it could depend on what players they can retain. Can’t see Delafoue etc staying. One of them will ‘do a Stoke’. 😊 |
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Post by thehoof on Jul 23, 2020 20:40:54 GMT
I think Norwich will be ok - they've resigned to going back to the Championship with more less the same side that did well last time. Villa spent big and could easily end up in financial trouble with players who don't want to be there. Bournemouth's bubble has burst and Howe will be off like a shot and Watford are a basket case waiting to happen. I think it's between Fulham and Brentford to go up and either will be up there next season - and Swansea coming from nowhere might just pull off a surprise. Forest are a funny one. They actually looked like a decent football team yesterday and I thought us going 1 up was against the run of play. A lot will be down to the manager picking them up and retaining their best players. Bristol City have got a steady manager in Hughton and might do ok and there is always a left field team that comes from nowhere. I'll go Preston next year but it could be one of about ten clubs. So Norwich, Brentford/Fulham, Forest, Bristol and Preston. As for Stoke - I'm going for broke and say we'll make the playoffs and could will get automatic promotion. If you want to know how a team is going to start a season look at how they preformed at the end of the last - and with a truncated preseason this may be a bigger factor than usual. For the first time in about 4 seasons we actually look like a decent team and O'Neill is clearly got an eye on promotion - he's not here to tread water. Can't wait... Hope you’re right. You know my thoughts on our defense! |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jul 23, 2020 21:17:58 GMT
The three that come down. Fulham/Brentford, whichever one doesn’t go up. As an outside bet I’d go for Blackburn, lots to like about them.
We’ll be lucky to sneak into the top 6 but feel we could finish top half. The problem is our squad is far too big and MON will have to chip away at that for two seasons looking at when our contracts end.
It may sound defeatist but I think our best bet is to develop players and sell them on till the deadwood has floated away.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 23, 2020 21:39:39 GMT
Teams I think will be up there will be Stoke, Cardiff (if not promoted), Millwall, Fulham (if not promoted), Norwich, Aston Villa (if relegated), Bristol City, Nottingham Forest.
Promoted - Stoke, Norwich, Villa or Millwall
Relegated - Birmingham, Sheffield Wednesday and Wycombe.
If Brentford don't go up I can see their best players being taken away from them so will struggle.
Coventry may well struggle as their best player was Liam Walsh who was on loan from Bristol City, he could be as good as a new signing for them if he kicks on from last season.
If Bournemouth get relegated they could lose a few players and struggle as will Watford whose players will be sick of having their careers pissed about with due to constant changes in managers. I don't see how the constant changes there help young players grow.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 23, 2020 21:47:02 GMT
I really hope no one takes note of stoke and we stay under the radar. Let everyone else have the pressure.
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Post by hotpot on Jul 24, 2020 1:00:55 GMT
Seven weeks. Enough time for ..... McLean to practice kicking with his right foot; Shawcross, Verlinden and Allen to be 100% fit again; MON to assess and/or promote the youngsters/reserves; OKey-Booth to watch videos of how Matheus Pereira plays; Tyrell to beef up a bit more; Clucas? if this headless chook gets a bigger brain, he would be a superstar; N'goy? (come out, wherever you are).
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Post by upthefud on Jul 24, 2020 1:33:02 GMT
Norwich in for a struggle for me. Huge relegation hangover. They’ve been woeful, I’m having them to finish bottom half next year
A lot depends on finance but I imagine we’ll be right up there
Let’s wait to see who goes up/comes down
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Post by kustokie on Jul 24, 2020 1:41:57 GMT
The pressure is on because we have to get promoted to avoid significant FFP penalties.
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