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Post by humbersidepotter on Jul 23, 2020 14:03:06 GMT
Bold, but I really think next year will be Campbell's year. I think he'll get at least 15 possibly more depending on how he's utilised
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2020 16:20:50 GMT
He’s silly if he doesn’t. I don’t think he should be starting 46 games mind but at least 35 with the rest from the bench. Fitness pending. He should be a regular for us given he's the most natural goal scorer in the squad but as you said fitness is a big issue - for his age he's shockingly unfit for a pro footballer and is usually shot after 60 mins. If he sorts his fitness out O'Neill would't have any choice but to play him - but until then he isn't going to be a first team regular for good reason. I think this season he’s improved that side massively tbh and it’s barely been issue once he’s been playing regularly. He has to start more games than not next season. There’s no excuse why he shouldn’t.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 17:18:20 GMT
Can you have both, a 20 goal man and half a dozen 6 goals plus men, then you'd be in business? I've often wondered how mutually exclusive goals are. If you have a 30 goal striker would some of his goals have been scored by your all rounders were he not there? There's a dissertation in this for someone. It’s probably also limiting in some ways because often when you do score, you don’t bother going for too many more.
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Post by mattface on Jul 23, 2020 17:18:45 GMT
Bold, but I really think next year will be Campbell's year. I think he'll get at least 15 possibly more depending on how he's utilised Not that bold - his 9 goals have come every 180 mins. Given we've not had a settled side and played with an awful lot of pressure all season that's a good return. Over a full season should be in the 15 to 20 goal bracket
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Post by neddy on Jul 23, 2020 17:30:34 GMT
I think it will be tougher for him personally next year as he has pace and will be a marked man but the trick will be creating space for others as a result?
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jul 23, 2020 17:58:30 GMT
You don't need a 20 goal a season striker, but I'm echoing what other lads are saying.
Campbell over a season can really push on and should be looking at 15 goals next campaign. If we've got Clucas and Powell chipping in with almost double digits, we'll be in business.
Since MON has come in, goals haven't been an issue. Whether that is sustainable or not, we'll wait and see. I'd love to see Afobe given another crack alongside Campbell, I think they'd completement each other really well.
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Post by EccyStokie on Jul 23, 2020 18:21:41 GMT
What were the stats when we got promoted to the prem? I seem to remember Fuller, Lawrence and Cresswell hitting a decent amount but not 20. Also didn’t Shawcross and Cort both get double figures?
EDIT: just double checked and it was
Fuller- 15 Lawrence- 14 Cresswell- 11 Cort- 8 Shawcross- 7
Some return that.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Jul 23, 2020 18:37:21 GMT
No myth just say the name Jamie Vardy
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Post by miggoscfc on Jul 23, 2020 18:39:55 GMT
20 goals a season striker in this league is a myth, you have 1 or 2 that do it and then they get gobbled up by the prem teams.
If you look at Leeds and West Brom as an example they have both scored 77 goals this year their strikers havent got many more than 20-25 between them, in this league you need all your team chipping in with maybe 1 striker aiming for 15. Your midfield need to contributing between 20-40 between them and then the defenders need to be in their also with 10+.
Suprisingly we have 56 goals only 21 off those 2 and we averaged less than a goal a game until MON came in and since then we have been on par with the top teams.
Clucas has played nearly 4000 mins this year and has 11.
Campbell and Vokes have only played 3600 mins between them and have 17 so in theory goals per minute if one or both had played as many mins as Clucas then thats a minimum of 17 more goals.
Nick Powell has only played 2000 mins and has 5 he could double it if he stays fit.
McClean has 7 with a 1000 less mins than Clucas there is a few more.
There is 22-25 more goals straight away, and add to that an Ince upgrade thats 4/5 more goals a year to achieve the same as McClean. If thus team continues the form of 2020 under MON with a settled squad and a more settled dressing room, next year could be a very good year.
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Post by stokefanone on Jul 24, 2020 1:49:17 GMT
We have 62 goals!
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Post by zerps on Jul 24, 2020 5:25:10 GMT
Bold, but I really think next year will be Campbell's year. I think he'll get at least 15 possibly more depending on how he's utilised I’m worried about his fitness and stamina
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Post by wizardofdribble on Jul 24, 2020 7:20:46 GMT
I’m sure that both Violett & Mudie scored 20 goals plus in the 1962/63 promotion season..
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 24, 2020 16:45:42 GMT
Same as Swansea who are in the play-offs. We had just 13 this season when MON took over, then scored 4 , more than 2 in a match for the first time in 88 matches. Better to have plenty of goal scorers in the team than be dependant on 1 man. Leicester struggled when Vardy wasn't scoring.
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Post by miggoscfc on Jul 24, 2020 19:10:02 GMT
Yes I should look at the GF coloumn next time and not the points. But it backs my point even more had we not been a pub team for the first 4 months of the season we could of been the top scorers in this league. An entirely new defence is a fucking must.
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