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Post by Milkie on Jul 23, 2020 7:07:25 GMT
MON has handed Scholes and the board the momentum and emerging good will to drive the club back into a good place. I am assuming Scholes is staying come what may, so what would you prioritise to keep the upward trajectory?
I would go for:
1 squad overhaul, not easy but we need to support MON on getting players out and those he wants in.
2 Sign a leftback.
3 Matchday experience use this fallow time before fans are reintroduced to develop a matchday experience, fanzone, E tickets, parking, catering the lot needs looking at.
4. Communication, messaging and communication has to improve both generally and to the supporters council, use technology to increase briefings rather than general councils.
5. Stadium, get any jobs done now while they have time, lick of paint, expand the concourse, repair screens, install chairs etc etc
6. Measure and set KPIs both on and off the pitch, performance, parking, catering standards, e tickets, web streams you name it has to be measured and improved.
Over to you
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Post by questionable on Jul 23, 2020 7:13:29 GMT
We’re talking about the person who’s overseen years of decay at the club and their response was what’s all the fuss about, leopards come to mind.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 23, 2020 7:21:25 GMT
We’re very lucky to have the Coates in charge but we’re desperately in need of a proper director of football installed that is a proper football man and not an accountant.
We’re on a roll at the moment no huge changes needed just some fine tuning and for MON to be given anything he needs. He’s sensible and not the type to ask the world .
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Post by Veritas on Jul 23, 2020 8:40:09 GMT
MON has handed Scholes and the board the momentum and emerging good will to drive the club back into a good place. I am assuming Scholes is staying come what may, so what would you prioritise to keep the upward trajectory? I would go for: 1 squad overhaul, not easy but we need to support MON on getting players out and those he wants in. 2 Sign a leftback. 3 Matchday experience use this fallow time before fans are reintroduced to develop a matchday experience, fanzone, E tickets, parking, catering the lot needs looking at. 4. Communication, messaging and communication has to improve both generally and to the supporters council, use technology to increase briefings rather than general councils. 5. Stadium, get any jobs done now while they have time, luck of paint, expand the concourse, repair screens, install chairs etc etc 6. Measure and set KPIs both on and off the pitch, performance, parking, catering standards, e tickets, web streams you name it has to be measured and improved. Over to you Generally good suggestions but I think squad strengthening is more realistic than overhaul and how would we expand the concourses within the current building structure? |
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Post by Milkie on Jul 23, 2020 9:20:36 GMT
Veritas, overhaul may be to strong a word, but I would imagine we need a net loss of about 6 first players, so maybe 10 out 4 in, that would give us a first team squad of 25, which would include a good mixture of experience and youth.
As for the concourse, I remember seen plans for the concourse on the Boothen getting doubled by expanding it outside of the ground moving the concessions into the extension and doubling the floor space and introducing some seating, very achievable in some areas, admittedly challenging in others but not insurmountable. A nip and tuck that could improve match day experience and get people into the ground and spending earlier and staying later. They need to look beyond the SCFC working class experience that we seem to cling to, stadia have moved on since the Bet 365 was built.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 23, 2020 9:39:31 GMT
Veritas, overhaul may be to strong a word, but I would imagine we need a net loss of about 6 first players, so maybe 10 out 4 in, that would give us a first team squad of 25, which would include a good mixture of experience and youth. As for the concourse, I remember seen plans for the concourse on the Boothen getting doubled by expanding it outside of the ground moving the concessions into the extension and doubling the floor space and introducing some seating, very achievable in some areas, admittedly challenging in others but insurmountable. A nip and tuck that could improve match day experience and get people into the ground and spending earlier and staying later. They need to look beyond the SCFC working class experience that we seem to cling to, stadia have moved on since the Bet 365 was built. Yes, expanding the concourses isn't actually that difficult. 1. You could build a single story extension to move the turnstiles and the outer wall, say 10 or 15 metres further back. 2. A cheaper but messier alternative would be to put the catering outside the concourse but with a serving counter where the back wall currently is. Personally, I'd go the whole hog and go for option 1 - it would look better and provide more extra space per person. Given that Covid is likely to be with us for many years - expanding all the ground level conncourses should be a priority on health and safety grounds. Whilst we are at it I would provide all concourses with extractor fans in the roof to make the atmosphere less toxic. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 23, 2020 9:55:14 GMT
Veritas, overhaul may be to strong a word, but I would imagine we need a net loss of about 6 first players, so maybe 10 out 4 in, that would give us a first team squad of 25, which would include a good mixture of experience and youth. As for the concourse, I remember seen plans for the concourse on the Boothen getting doubled by expanding it outside of the ground moving the concessions into the extension and doubling the floor space and introducing some seating, very achievable in some areas, admittedly challenging in others but insurmountable. A nip and tuck that could improve match day experience and get people into the ground and spending earlier and staying later. They need to look beyond the SCFC working class experience that we seem to cling to, stadia have moved on since the Bet 365 was built. Must admit a thread beginning "Momentum" and then calling for a squad overhaul just didn't make sense to me - a squad overhaul would kill the momentum we've built up in the last six months and put us back to where we were when O'Neill took over. For a promotion push we need to start strongly and for that we need continuity. However 4 new players is reasonable - but not what I'd describe as a overhaul. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 23, 2020 10:00:41 GMT
Veritas, overhaul may be to strong a word, but I would imagine we need a net loss of about 6 first players, so maybe 10 out 4 in, that would give us a first team squad of 25, which would include a good mixture of experience and youth. As for the concourse, I remember seen plans for the concourse on the Boothen getting doubled by expanding it outside of the ground moving the concessions into the extension and doubling the floor space and introducing some seating, very achievable in some areas, admittedly challenging in others but insurmountable. A nip and tuck that could improve match day experience and get people into the ground and spending earlier and staying later. They need to look beyond the SCFC working class experience that we seem to cling to, stadia have moved on since the Bet 365 was built. Must admit a thread beginning "Momentum" and then calling for a squad overhaul just didn't make sense to me - a squad overhaul would kill the momentum we've built up in the last six months and put us back to where we were when O'Neill took over. For a promotion push we need to start strongly and for that we need continuity. However 4 new players is reasonable - but not what I'd describe as a overhaul. I think you have a rather narrow definition of overhaul. 4 new players plus, hopefully, 8 or 9 departures (releases and loans out) would be a pretty decent overhaul to me. |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 23, 2020 10:05:24 GMT
What he's handed them is a get out of jail free card.
Which will see the board paper of the cracks, and put it down to being an unlucky season.
More of the same boys they'll think. What's all the fuss about?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 10:16:16 GMT
Veritas, overhaul may be to strong a word, but I would imagine we need a net loss of about 6 first players, so maybe 10 out 4 in, that would give us a first team squad of 25, which would include a good mixture of experience and youth. As for the concourse, I remember seen plans for the concourse on the Boothen getting doubled by expanding it outside of the ground moving the concessions into the extension and doubling the floor space and introducing some seating, very achievable in some areas, admittedly challenging in others but insurmountable. A nip and tuck that could improve match day experience and get people into the ground and spending earlier and staying later. They need to look beyond the SCFC working class experience that we seem to cling to, stadia have moved on since the Bet 365 was built. Yes, expanding the concourses isn't actually that difficult. 1. You could build a single story extension to move the turnstiles and the outer wall, say 10 or 15 metres further back. 2. A cheaper but messier alternative would be to put the catering outside the concourse but with a serving counter where the back wall currently is. Personally, I'd go the whole hog and go for option 1 - it would look better and provide more extra space per person. Given that Covid is likely to be with us for many years - expanding all the ground level conncourses should be a priority on health and safety grounds. Whilst we are at it I would provide all concourses with extractor fans in the roof to make the atmosphere less toxic. Or bring in a limit to 1 pie per person then we could all fit in as there seems to be a mass of Buster Bloodvessel lookalikes causing the crush |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jul 23, 2020 15:44:41 GMT
Veritas, overhaul may be to strong a word, but I would imagine we need a net loss of about 6 first players, so maybe 10 out 4 in, that would give us a first team squad of 25, which would include a good mixture of experience and youth. As for the concourse, I remember seen plans for the concourse on the Boothen getting doubled by expanding it outside of the ground moving the concessions into the extension and doubling the floor space and introducing some seating, very achievable in some areas, admittedly challenging in others but insurmountable. A nip and tuck that could improve match day experience and get people into the ground and spending earlier and staying later. They need to look beyond the SCFC working class experience that we seem to cling to, stadia have moved on since the Bet 365 was built. Yes, expanding the concourses isn't actually that difficult. 1. You could build a single story extension to move the turnstiles and the outer wall, say 10 or 15 metres further back. 2. A cheaper but messier alternative would be to put the catering outside the concourse but with a serving counter where the back wall currently is. Personally, I'd go the whole hog and go for option 1 - it would look better and provide more extra space per person. Given that Covid is likely to be with us for many years - expanding all the ground level conncourses should be a priority on health and safety grounds. Whilst we are at it I would provide all concourses with extractor fans in the roof to make the atmosphere less toxic. I'm pretty sure any capital expenditure projects like that can also be offset against losses under FFP. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2020 16:26:27 GMT
MON has handed Scholes and the board the momentum and emerging good will to drive the club back into a good place. I am assuming Scholes is staying come what may, so what would you prioritise to keep the upward trajectory? I would go for: 1 squad overhaul, not easy but we need to support MON on getting players out and those he wants in. 2 Sign a leftback. 3 Matchday experience use this fallow time before fans are reintroduced to develop a matchday experience, fanzone, E tickets, parking, catering the lot needs looking at. 4. Communication, messaging and communication has to improve both generally and to the supporters council, use technology to increase briefings rather than general councils. 5. Stadium, get any jobs done now while they have time, lick of paint, expand the concourse, repair screens, install chairs etc etc 6. Measure and set KPIs both on and off the pitch, performance, parking, catering standards, e tickets, web streams you name it has to be measured and improved. Over to you steps 1 & 2 I want Scholes to have no say in steps 3,4,5 & 6 all sound propositions however Scholes isn't the man for that either Answer: 1: Sack Scholes (encourage him to retire perhaps?) 2: Employ a genuine Director of Football who is football savvy & strong on negotiations - right now might be a good time to cherry pick/headhunt a good candidate given our financial stability compared to almost every other club Every club makes howlers in the transfer market,this won't change but we have made far too many for too long. 3: Employ a genuine Customer Service supremo, ideally someone who understands football fans, so many things come down to common sense & being pro-active, other things come down to not simply choosing the cheapest option 4: Employ another strong negotiator to focus on the commercial deals, this person doesn't have to be especially football savvy OK that's 3 wages rather than the 1 (big) wage that Scholes gets however, & it's impossible not to resort to hyperbole here, anyone can see that we would make the money back many times over with better negotiations re contracts alone |
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Post by jaybee on Jul 23, 2020 18:02:09 GMT
So ... we've just had the shittiest 5 months for many years with zero income .... let's go out and spend some money!!!  |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 23, 2020 18:27:18 GMT
Veritas, overhaul may be to strong a word, but I would imagine we need a net loss of about 6 first players, so maybe 10 out 4 in, that would give us a first team squad of 25, which would include a good mixture of experience and youth. As for the concourse, I remember seen plans for the concourse on the Boothen getting doubled by expanding it outside of the ground moving the concessions into the extension and doubling the floor space and introducing some seating, very achievable in some areas, admittedly challenging in others but insurmountable. A nip and tuck that could improve match day experience and get people into the ground and spending earlier and staying later. They need to look beyond the SCFC working class experience that we seem to cling to, stadia have moved on since the Bet 365 was built. Yes, expanding the concourses isn't actually that difficult. 1. You could build a single story extension to move the turnstiles and the outer wall, say 10 or 15 metres further back. 2. A cheaper but messier alternative would be to put the catering outside the concourse but with a serving counter where the back wall currently is. Personally, I'd go the whole hog and go for option 1 - it would look better and provide more extra space per person. Given that Covid is likely to be with us for many years - expanding all the ground level conncourses should be a priority on health and safety grounds. Whilst we are at it I would provide all concourses with extractor fans in the roof to make the atmosphere less toxic. Just look at Twickenham, their concourse layout is great. Undercover if you want or outside if the weather's good. American Stadia I've been to always wipe the floor with anything here comfort and catering wise. Only Twickenham and the Millennium come close. Wembley us utter garbage. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 23, 2020 18:39:31 GMT
Momentum - Don’t lose it (AGAIN) Scholes
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Post by zerps on Jul 23, 2020 19:46:58 GMT
I don’t think we need to go nuts with an overhaul. We’re currently in playoff form. Scoring for fun. Keep it simple. Get a few out and be very careful who we bring in.
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 23, 2020 21:16:18 GMT
Now this prick is absolutely inept at his job and I’ve got absolutely no faith in him changing...O Neil can only do so much, while he’s here the same mistakes will be made, he needs to go it’s as simple as that imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 2:04:06 GMT
Hahahahah no chance. He’s fucked up the prem and championship with what appeared to be unlimited funds...to a man he signed shit, to a point now it like butland and penalties, statistically we must be due to sign someone not shit by sheer volume Of players....then got a pay rise. It took us a fucking age to arrange contactless payments for the unsafe pies!! From what I remember has taken over a season to get a stream that worked on the site. Weren’t people paying for no commentary and blank screens etc. We have no chance of an improved experience, as far as I can tell the experience is the same as when we first moved to the stadium...compare to Say bristol city ground we are miles away!! They didn’t have to do anything as they offered cheap prem football. Times have now changed but I doubt the club will.He is reactive and doesn’t do fuck all till it’s too late then generally fucks it up. Still if you don’t rock the boat maybe your mates won’t realize your incompetent and Think deep down a good egg. I bet O’Neill must laugh and cry when he deals with them and how they have managed get here....imagine being a respected international manager listening to John full of coke chat rubbish and his mate nodding and grinning in the corner, the board probably functions like a 6th form common room The prick. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 24, 2020 12:29:15 GMT
Now this prick is absolutely inept at his job and I’ve got absolutely no faith in him changing...O Neil can only do so much, while he’s here the same mistakes will be made, he needs to go it’s as simple as that imo. Agreed but its not realistically going to happen. I would encourage him to take a back seat though and get someone in to gradually phase him out. |
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