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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 7:16:07 GMT
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 23, 2020 7:16:07 GMT
The new Gareth Bale left back turned into a top player further forward
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 7:19:22 GMT
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Post by nonameface on Jul 23, 2020 7:19:22 GMT
MoN definitely said it was 3-4-3 at the end / with Tymon on.
It worked well for Tymon whatever it was as it allowed him to bomb on to great effect - and while that highlighted his attacking play, we weren't, and he wasn't, under huge pressure down their right to stress test Tymon's defensive game. Wasn't that Lolly (one of their 'names') down their right too - so a little surprising?
Lolley is normally a very good player but he had a poor game last night... they all did though to be fair.
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 7:24:42 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 23, 2020 7:24:42 GMT
"What left back situation?" He knew all along that we had Robert Carlos 2 waiting in the wings. He’s good is our Scholes.
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Post by Linx on Jul 23, 2020 7:42:02 GMT
Surely Tymon always was about potential? He’s a very young player (wasn’t he 18 or something when he came in) and as such, he will have peaks and troughs and is affected by confidence. He probably wasn’t ready to make an impact in a formative side like Rowett’s and even less in a dog’s dinner like Jones’. But MON’s side is more settled and structured, and he can be integrated more steadily with the right levels of support and clear instruction about his role.
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 7:43:49 GMT
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Post by dudnostokie on Jul 23, 2020 7:43:49 GMT
MoN definitely said it was 3-4-3 at the end / with Tymon on.
It worked well for Tymon whatever it was as it allowed him to bomb on to great effect - and while that highlighted his attacking play, we weren't, and he wasn't, under huge pressure down their right to stress test Tymon's defensive game. Wasn't that Lolly (one of their 'names') down their right too - so a little surprising?
I agree that he didn't have much to do defensively, but what he did have to do, he did well. His attacking was really promising, he should definitely be in the plans when we need a formation switch.
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 7:44:15 GMT
Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 23, 2020 7:44:15 GMT
Surely Tyson always was about potential? He’s a very young player (wasn’t he 18 or something when he came in) and as such, he will have peaks and troughs and is affected by confidence. He probably wasn’t ready to make an impact in a formative side like Rowett’s and even less in a dog’s dinner like Jones’. But MON’s side is more settled and structured, and he can be integrated more steadily with the right levels of support and clear instruction about his role. Tyson? The thought of that massive bloke as a speedy wing back made me chuckle! The Jonah Lomu of "soccer"!
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Post by Linx on Jul 23, 2020 7:59:10 GMT
Surely Tyson always was about potential? He’s a very young player (wasn’t he 18 or something when he came in) and as such, he will have peaks and troughs and is affected by confidence. He probably wasn’t ready to make an impact in a formative side like Rowett’s and even less in a dog’s dinner like Jones’. But MON’s side is more settled and structured, and he can be integrated more steadily with the right levels of support and clear instruction about his role. Tyson? The thought of that massive bloke as a speedy wing back made me chuckle! The Jonah Lomu of "soccer"! I’ve not had my morning coffee yet, LP. Give me a chance to get to that edit button!
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 23, 2020 8:28:57 GMT
MoN definitely said it was 3-4-3 at the end / with Tymon on.
It worked well for Tymon whatever it was as it allowed him to bomb on to great effect - and while that highlighted his attacking play, we weren't, and he wasn't, under huge pressure down their right to stress test Tymon's defensive game. Wasn't that Lolly (one of their 'names') down their right too - so a little surprising?
Lolley is normally a very good player but he had a poor game last night... they all did though to be fair. They did.
As was very apparent & noted in the commentary, if a casual observer who was unaware of the table had watched, he or she would have been hard pressed to know which team was vying for the play-offs and which had sailed uncomfortably close to relegation.
That said, we played well, and very well at times too.
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 8:31:15 GMT
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 23, 2020 8:31:15 GMT
Back to Tymon. The quality of his assists was great, I don’t think McClean puts those balls in how Tymon does if he’s there. I’d love to us convert him to a winger. Possibly better off cause he cannot defend.
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 8:34:18 GMT
Post by realstokebloke on Jul 23, 2020 8:34:18 GMT
MoN definitely said it was 3-4-3 at the end / with Tymon on.
It worked well for Tymon whatever it was as it allowed him to bomb on to great effect - and while that highlighted his attacking play, we weren't, and he wasn't, under huge pressure down their right to stress test Tymon's defensive game. Wasn't that Lolly (one of their 'names') down their right too - so a little surprising?
I agree that he didn't have much to do defensively, but what he did have to do, he did well. His attacking was really promising, he should definitely be in the plans when we need a formation switch. I was too wide-mouthed at his forrays upfield to really notice his defensive game last night tbh : )
(And tbh, I think I'm still scarred by one of his previous 'defensive' showings last (?) season was it vs Preston at home when he was hooked off very early doors.)
But no, last night was very heartening and he definitely earned his place in the mix going into next season.
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 8:47:33 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2020 8:47:33 GMT
Isn’t that just how a 4231 works when you don’t have the ball? No that’s how a 4-3-3 works. No number 10 but two number 8s in the coaching jargon. Clear Powell was playing there in part to protect the defence behind Campbell and partly to allow Campbell and McClean to closer to Vokes for long balls He was playing more advanced. That’s a few snapshots and as I’ve said, without the ball it’s how a 4231 can work.
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 9:06:07 GMT
Post by mamasgloves on Jul 23, 2020 9:06:07 GMT
Congratulations to Josh who in ten minutes managed to double Tom "best crosser at the club" Edwards' entire career total of assists
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 9:11:41 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2020 9:11:41 GMT
Congratulations to Josh who in ten minutes managed to double Tom "best crosser at the club" Edwards' entire career total of assists Rent free.
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 9:16:53 GMT
Post by mamasgloves on Jul 23, 2020 9:16:53 GMT
Congratulations to Josh who in ten minutes managed to double Tom "best crosser at the club" Edwards' entire career total of assists Rent free. You really are running out of ways to defend him aren't you? I'm sure you'll be congratulating McClean and Smith ending the season as two of our best players too? Biggest wummer going
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 9:20:42 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2020 9:20:42 GMT
You really are running out of ways to defend him aren't you? I'm sure you'll be congratulating McClean and Smith ending the season as two of our best players too? Biggest wummer going Not in the slightest. He is the best crosser at the club. I just found that an odd thing to say on a thread about Tymon! Both have been shite on the whole. 5/10 seasons. No wumming. Just don’t accept this crap that we’ve generally been serving up and have higher standards than most. Hence why I’m staying off the player ratings thread from yesterday because no one in the starting XI gets over a 5 😂
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 10:12:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 10:12:33 GMT
Back to Tymon. The quality of his assists was great, I don’t think McClean puts those balls in how Tymon does if he’s there. I’d love to us convert him to a winger. As well you know that conversion already took place in the u-23s and also while on loan in Portugal and to great effect too. Then O'Neill came in as manager and converted him back to fullback with less than satisfactory results, at least he never played him again until yesterday. I suppose that was an admission by O'Neill that he was wrong. Like almost, oh what the heck there's 20 mins to go, send him on on the wing surely he can do no harm there. And then, Tymon, as in the Sentinel report, came on with steam out of his boots and changed everything. The game, for sure, but also a lot of people's ideas of what Josh can do. It probably even changed Tymon himself: his first good moments at Stoke after three years of plain misery. Remember his interview in a Hull paper that was referred in the Sentinel and the Oatcake. There were comments that suggested he was suicidal. Now no more: we've seen the future of SCFC and its name is Josh Tymon...
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 10:39:23 GMT
Post by OldStokie on Jul 23, 2020 10:39:23 GMT
I'm not bothered about Tymon. I'm reeling here at Para's involvement. Of all the years I've known him, his responses on this thread are absolutely his opus magnum. And with pictures too! Amazing stuff Para. OS doffs flat cap. Edit: Me and you should write a book together. You do the serious stuff and draw the pictures and I'll do that daft stuff. If we get Gareth to join us it will be as good as anyfink Spike Milligan wrote.
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 10:43:46 GMT
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 11:47:14 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Jul 23, 2020 11:47:14 GMT
Has Tymon got pace, because after he came on we suddenly looked like a team with decent pace with him and Campbell, or were Forest just knackered?,
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 12:37:09 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 12:37:09 GMT
A week ago we had three options for leftback: Bruno, Ward, and Josh. And now we have none! One's leaving, another one's gone, and the third should play further upfield.
Unless we sign one, all we have is Corrigan...
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 12:42:56 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2020 12:42:56 GMT
Back to Tymon. The quality of his assists was great, I don’t think McClean puts those balls in how Tymon does if he’s there. I’d love to us convert him to a winger. As well you know that conversion already took place in the u-23s and also while on loan in Portugal and to great effect too. Then O'Neill came in as manager and converted him back to fullback with less than satisfactory results, at least he never played him again until yesterday. I suppose that was an admission by O'Neill that he was wrong. Like almost, oh what the heck there's 20 mins to go, send him on on the wing surely he can do no harm there. And then, Tymon, as in the Sentinel report, came on with steam out of his boots and changed everything. The game, for sure, but also a lot of people's ideas of what Josh can do. It probably even changed Tymon himself: his first good moments at Stoke after three years of plain misery. Remember his interview in a Hull paper that was referred in the Sentinel and the Oatcake. There were comments that suggested he was suicidal. Now no more: we've seen the future of SCFC and its name is Josh Tymon... He played central midfield in Portugal didn’t he?
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Tymon
Jul 23, 2020 12:44:16 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 12:44:16 GMT
As well you know that conversion already took place in the u-23s and also while on loan in Portugal and to great effect too. Then O'Neill came in as manager and converted him back to fullback with less than satisfactory results, at least he never played him again until yesterday. I suppose that was an admission by O'Neill that he was wrong. Like almost, oh what the heck there's 20 mins to go, send him on on the wing surely he can do no harm there. And then, Tymon, as in the Sentinel report, came on with steam out of his boots and changed everything. The game, for sure, but also a lot of people's ideas of what Josh can do. It probably even changed Tymon himself: his first good moments at Stoke after three years of plain misery. Remember his interview in a Hull paper that was referred in the Sentinel and the Oatcake. There were comments that suggested he was suicidal. Now no more: we've seen the future of SCFC and its name is Josh Tymon... He played central midfield in Portugal didn’t he? wide midfield
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 24, 2020 18:13:04 GMT
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Tymon
Jul 24, 2020 18:15:48 GMT
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Post by sd22 on Jul 24, 2020 18:15:48 GMT
Excellent cameo. Could have netted but for a great block. Defended well too. I've said all along he's not as bad as people say. Don’t tell anyone but he wasn’t ‘shit’ Derby (no more so than the rest of the squad were that night)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 24, 2020 18:56:45 GMT
Good luck to him. For whatever reason he’s had a rough ride at Stoke. If he comes back to the first team it’ll be the greatest transformation since Bayernoatcake agreed with someone else’s point of view.
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Tymon
Jul 25, 2020 0:10:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 0:10:35 GMT
Back to Tymon. The quality of his assists was great, I don’t think McClean puts those balls in how Tymon does if he’s there. I’d love to us convert him to a winger. As well you know that conversion already took place in the u-23s and also while on loan in Portugal and to great effect too. Then O'Neill came in as manager and converted him back to fullback with less than satisfactory results, at least he never played him again until yesterday. I suppose that was an admission by O'Neill that he was wrong. Like almost, oh what the heck there's 20 mins to go, send him on on the wing surely he can do no harm there. And then, Tymon, as in the Sentinel report, came on with steam out of his boots and changed everything. The game, for sure, but also a lot of people's ideas of what Josh can do. It probably even changed Tymon himself: his first good moments at Stoke after three years of plain misery. Remember his interview in a Hull paper that was referred in the Sentinel and the Oatcake. There were comments that suggested he was suicidal. Now no more: we've seen the future of SCFC and its name is Josh Tymon... Well to be fair to O’Neill. He needed a left back. Indi isn’t exactly the first name on the team sheet and Ward wasn’t either.
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Tymon
Aug 9, 2020 18:30:17 GMT
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Post by lordb on Aug 9, 2020 18:33:09 GMT
If we sign more midfielders then Lasse should go on loan
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Tymon
Aug 9, 2020 18:39:08 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 18:39:08 GMT
Tymon has finally found his feet for Stoke, and now our genius manager wants to send him out on yet another pointless loan, while he brings in new players that will block Tymon's path back into the team.
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Tymon
Aug 9, 2020 18:44:57 GMT
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Post by RF10 on Aug 9, 2020 18:44:57 GMT
Tymon has finally found his feet for Stoke, and now our genius manager wants to send him out on yet another pointless loan, while he brings in new players that will block Tymon's path back into the team. Found his feet? He's made one decent appearance since joining in a short spell off the bench.
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