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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 2, 2020 12:53:54 GMT
I have a feeling he might drop into the championship to take charge of a “sleeping giant”. Maybe Forest when Lamouchi inevitably goes. If he’s lucky maybe a lower end premier league club who’s managers are on borrowed time, Villa or West Ham perhaps. I would think you can rule out villa I think Smith has enough credit in the bank to last until Christmas at least
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 2, 2020 13:00:40 GMT
I know it difficult for many to look at things objectively (& not in the remit of a football fan in many ways) but Howe has done an incredible job at Bournemouth whatever we would like to make out and deserves a huge amount of credit and respect in many ways.
In fact it is quite miraculous what he achieved there
2008/09 17 points reduction in League Two. He went there in January 2009, a club with £4m debt and managed to miraculously steer them away from the Conference.
In his second season after winning 9 of the first 10 games, while the club weren't allowed to bring in any players due to an embargo, he turned down the job at Southampton which on paper seemed like madness. In fact he had to persuade his coach to come out of retirement to make up the team that season, yet guided them to promotion to League 1.
Went to Burnley where his family didn't settle and returned to Bournemouth where they were back in the relegation zone. His first signing was Arter from Woking for £4000
Rest is history, but come on guys give the guy some credit.
Probably our dislike for Howe is similar to other fan's hatred of Pulis, but that cant change what they achieved.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 2, 2020 13:04:09 GMT
Sounds like a job for Mark Hughes. Would he soil his CV with a Championship job? "Never been relegated" you know.
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 2, 2020 13:17:23 GMT
Sounds like a job for Mark Hughes. Would he soil his CV with a Championship job? "Never been relegated" you know. No but he would leave them in such a mess they will drop through the divisions like a stone.
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Post by lordb on Aug 2, 2020 13:44:26 GMT
I know it difficult for many to look at things objectively (& not in the remit of a football fan in many ways) but Howe has done an incredible job at Bournemouth whatever we would like to make out and deserves a huge amount of credit and respect in many ways. In fact it is quite miraculous what he achieved there 2008/09 17 points reduction in League Two. He went there in January 2009, a club with £4m debt and managed to miraculously steer them away from the Conference. In his second season after winning 9 of the first 10 games, while the club weren't allowed to bring in any players due to an embargo, he turned down the job at Southampton which on paper seemed like madness. In fact he had to persuade his coach to come out of retirement to make up the team that season, yet guided them to promotion to League 1. Went to Burnley where his family didn't settle and returned to Bournemouth where they were back in the relegation zone. His first signing was Arter from Woking for £4000 Rest is history, but come on guys give the guy some credit. Probably our dislike for Howe is similar to other fan's hatred of Pulis, but that cant change what they achieved. He wasn't popular at Burnley
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 2, 2020 14:05:04 GMT
I know it difficult for many to look at things objectively (& not in the remit of a football fan in many ways) but Howe has done an incredible job at Bournemouth whatever we would like to make out and deserves a huge amount of credit and respect in many ways. In fact it is quite miraculous what he achieved there 2008/09 17 points reduction in League Two. He went there in January 2009, a club with £4m debt and managed to miraculously steer them away from the Conference. In his second season after winning 9 of the first 10 games, while the club weren't allowed to bring in any players due to an embargo, he turned down the job at Southampton which on paper seemed like madness. In fact he had to persuade his coach to come out of retirement to make up the team that season, yet guided them to promotion to League 1. Went to Burnley where his family didn't settle and returned to Bournemouth where they were back in the relegation zone. His first signing was Arter from Woking for £4000 Rest is history, but come on guys give the guy some credit. Probably our dislike for Howe is similar to other fan's hatred of Pulis, but that cant change what they achieved. He wasn't popular at Burnley 1.5 average seasons at Burnley 10 incredible seasons at Bournemouth
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Aug 2, 2020 15:02:12 GMT
Thing is mate if TFP does get the gig then shithousery with them will go to a whole new level, just like it did with us. Which is why I don’t quite get why so many of our fans get so upset with Eddie. BM The one thing you can't accuse TP sides of is diving (not saying it never happened), not did they surround the ref waving imaginary cards. Jerome did that once and Pulis publicly called him out on it. Obviously Pulis sides away from home especially can be the dullest thing ever but Howe's sides take cheating to levels other managers would blush at. All whilst being la uded by the press. This 100%. Anyone who witnessed Howe and co close up at our place would say the same. Lauded as a god. Have never seen so much cheating, diving, time wasting, in the face of the ref and general play acting as that exhibited by ‘golden boy’s’ disciples. So glad he has sunk with them like a stone. I even preferred Monk and Swansea. Howe fooled most of the people/lazy pundits most of the time. Good riddance.
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Aug 2, 2020 15:30:21 GMT
The one thing you can't accuse TP sides of is diving (not saying it never happened), not did they surround the ref waving imaginary cards. Jerome did that once and Pulis publicly called him out on it. Obviously Pulis sides away from home especially can be the dullest thing ever but Howe's sides take cheating to levels other managers would blush at. All whilst being la uded by the press. This 100%. Anyone who witnessed Howe and co close up at our place would say the same. Lauded as a god. Have never seen so much cheating, diving, time wasting, in the face of the ref and general play acting as that exhibited by ‘golden boy’s’ disciples. So glad he has sunk with them like a stone. I even preferred Monk and Swansea. Howe fooled most of the people/lazy pundits most of the time. Good riddance. I think if Howe didn't look like an 11 year old choir boy then he'd have the awful anti-football reputation that his side deserved. If he looked like Sean Dyche or somebody like Troy Deeney then he'd be universally disliked by the press.
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 3, 2020 6:58:38 GMT
Surprised bournemouth are looking at the assistant manager tindall becoming permenant. Smacks of a firesale, perhaps eddie didnt want to be part of the financial struggle that his poor signings will ensue. Though hughton would jump at that chance
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 11:35:52 GMT
You can't knock his record . Bottom of league 2 on minus 15 points to relegation from the prem , is a terrific run .
Any team at the bottom of league 2 would happily settle for that .
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Post by leicspotter on Aug 3, 2020 18:57:12 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53628740Interesting piece by Phil McNulty...rich owners at Bournemouth, 'dodgy' spending in promo season and a lo of £ spent on Liverpool players who didn't deliver...he's(Howe) probably better than we like to give him credit for but not as good as he likes to think he is
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 3, 2020 21:06:15 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53628740Interesting piece by Phil McNulty...rich owners at Bournemouth, 'dodgy' spending in promo season and a lo of £ spent on Liverpool players who didn't deliver...he's(Howe) probably better than we like to give him credit for but not as good as he likes to think he is You take a team like Bournemouth from -17 points at the foot of League 2 to 9th in the Premiership There is only one way you can go after that, and that is down. 99.9% of managers will fail eventually.
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Post by lordb on Aug 3, 2020 21:12:16 GMT
He wasn't popular at Burnley 1.5 average seasons at Burnley 10 incredible seasons at Bournemouth 1.5 season with a budget average for the Championship 10 seasons of a budget way above many clubs. Ok I'm over simplifying things however Bournemouth rise wasn't the fairy story painted
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Post by thevoid on Aug 4, 2020 11:06:18 GMT
Surprised bournemouth are looking at the assistant manager tindall becoming permenant. Smacks of a firesale, perhaps eddie didnt want to be part of the financial struggle that his poor signings will ensue. Though hughton would jump at that chance If Hughton is as ambitious as he's made out to be he'd have taken the Bristol job- cracking stadium, vibrant city (under normal circumstances) and club with potential. Bournemouth are a small, traditional lower league club heading back to their rightful level.
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Post by fazza90 on Aug 4, 2020 11:29:41 GMT
Surprised bournemouth are looking at the assistant manager tindall becoming permenant. Smacks of a firesale, perhaps eddie didnt want to be part of the financial struggle that his poor signings will ensue. Though hughton would jump at that chance If Hughton is as ambitious as he's made out to be he'd have taken the Bristol job- cracking stadium, vibrant city (under normal circumstances) and club with potential. Bournemouth are a small, traditional lower league club heading back to their rightful level. You're 100% correct but to complicate things I imagine Bournemouth would offer him £30k+ a week compared to Bristol around half of that.
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Post by stokefanone on Aug 5, 2020 11:04:04 GMT
The rightful level being Division 4 (league 2) Vale are a bigger club than those.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 5, 2020 12:33:13 GMT
The rightful level being Division 4 (league 2) Vale are a bigger club than those. Which makes Eddie Howe's achievement even more impressive. From rock bottom of League 2 to Prem in 7 years Keeping them in the Prem for 5 years Yep, hope they all enjoyed the ride.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 5, 2020 14:31:50 GMT
The rightful level being Division 4 (league 2) Vale are a bigger club than those. I wouldn't go that far.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 0:49:05 GMT
I know it difficult for many to look at things objectively (& not in the remit of a football fan in many ways) but Howe has done an incredible job at Bournemouth whatever we would like to make out and deserves a huge amount of credit and respect in many ways. In fact it is quite miraculous what he achieved there 2008/09 17 points reduction in League Two. He went there in January 2009, a club with £4m debt and managed to miraculously steer them away from the Conference. In his second season after winning 9 of the first 10 games, while the club weren't allowed to bring in any players due to an embargo, he turned down the job at Southampton which on paper seemed like madness. In fact he had to persuade his coach to come out of retirement to make up the team that season, yet guided them to promotion to League 1. Went to Burnley where his family didn't settle and returned to Bournemouth where they were back in the relegation zone. His first signing was Arter from Woking for £4000 Rest is history, but come on guys give the guy some credit. Probably our dislike for Howe is similar to other fan's hatred of Pulis, but that cant change what they achieved. He wasn't popular at Burnley Brian Clough wasn't popular at Leeds , but I still reckon he was a decent manager
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2020 10:35:22 GMT
Odd decision, but good news on the face of it for the rest of our league
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Post by lordb on Aug 6, 2020 10:40:26 GMT
He wasn't popular at Burnley Brian Clough wasn't popular at Leeds , but I still reckon he was a decent manager That's true I just detest how the media have built Howe up without taking into account the large budget he has had and the appalling cheating his side's produce away from home.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 6, 2020 12:46:37 GMT
Brian Clough wasn't popular at Leeds , but I still reckon he was a decent manager That's true I just detest how the media have built Howe up without taking into account the large budget he has had and the appalling cheating his side's produce away from home. I thought I would do some research on this (saddo that I am!) Over the last 10 years (Eddie Howe was manager 9 years of the 10 I believe) Bournemouth spent £200m on transfers in the same period Stoke spent £260m Bournmouth's biggest spend was 2018/19 when they spent £88m, but that's nothing exceptional in the Prem. and even then their expenditure over the last 2 seasons is about the same as Stoke's even though we were in the Championship and they were in the Prem i.e Bournemouth £108m Stoke £100m If you compare Bournemouth in the Prem with others (over the last 5 years) Bournemouth spent £196m in the same period West Ham spent a staggering £292m In the same period Leicester spent £290m Even Southampton spent £288m in the last 5 seasons. and you can factor in that Bournemouth needed to invest to survive moreso than the others who already had established Prem League squads Bournemouth's budget is similar to Fulham's budget over the last 5 years (£190) and look what happened to them. They spent a staggering £145m in 2018/19 so Bournemouth are relatively low on transfer expenditure in the Prem I'm not a closet Bournemouth fan, and I really didn't like the way they played football in the last couple of seasons, I was just interested in checking out the stats.
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Post by LH_SCFC on Aug 6, 2020 13:05:04 GMT
Odd decision, but good news on the face of it for the rest of our league If Tindall gets it, it’s safe to say they will as bad if not worse for their dark arts. He’s the worst of the lot on the touch line. He’s got all the hysterical jumping attributes of Sammy Lee.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 8, 2020 7:48:39 GMT
Some seemingly strange managerial appointments being made in our division - which must be decent news for us? www.skysports.com/transfer-centreTINDALL SET TO BECOME CHERRIES BOSSIt is expected that Bournemouth will announce Jason Tindall as manager today replacing Eddie Howe who left last Saturday by mutual consent. Tindall was Eddie Howe’s No 2 throughout his managerial reign in both spells at Bournemouth, and when Howe managed Burnley. It is unclear at this stage as to the makeup of his back room staff but it is likely that Stephen Purches will become his assistant
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Post by lordb on Aug 8, 2020 9:51:13 GMT
That's true I just detest how the media have built Howe up without taking into account the large budget he has had and the appalling cheating his side's produce away from home. I thought I would do some research on this (saddo that I am!) Over the last 10 years (Eddie Howe was manager 9 years of the 10 I believe) Bournemouth spent £200m on transfers in the same period Stoke spent £260m Bournmouth's biggest spend was 2018/19 when they spent £88m, but that's nothing exceptional in the Prem. and even then their expenditure over the last 2 seasons is about the same as Stoke's even though we were in the Championship and they were in the Prem i.e Bournemouth £108m Stoke £100m If you compare Bournemouth in the Prem with others (over the last 5 years) Bournemouth spent £196m in the same period West Ham spent a staggering £292m In the same period Leicester spent £290m Even Southampton spent £288m in the last 5 seasons. and you can factor in that Bournemouth needed to invest to survive moreso than the others who already had established Prem League squads Bournemouth's budget is similar to Fulham's budget over the last 5 years (£190) and look what happened to them. They spent a staggering £145m in 2018/19 so Bournemouth are relatively low on transfer expenditure in the Prem I'm not a closet Bournemouth fan, and I really didn't like the way they played football in the last couple of seasons, I was just interested in checking out the stats. Ah but Stoke were spending in the Premier League in that time predominantly. At least 4 of those seasons Bournemouth were spending in the Championship so relative to the budgets of their competitors at that time they had a big advantage Plus of course absolutely no one ever was lauding Stoke (or any non southern provincial club) for their achievements in the same way.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 8, 2020 10:09:44 GMT
Some seemingly strange managerial appointments being made in our division - which must be decent news for us? www.skysports.com/transfer-centreTINDALL SET TO BECOME CHERRIES BOSSIt is expected that Bournemouth will announce Jason Tindall as manager today replacing Eddie Howe who left last Saturday by mutual consent. Tindall was Eddie Howe’s No 2 throughout his managerial reign in both spells at Bournemouth, and when Howe managed Burnley. It is unclear at this stage as to the makeup of his back room staff but it is likely that Stephen Purches will become his assistant Eddie stabbed in the back ?😏 live by the sword 😏
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Post by Gods on Aug 8, 2020 10:18:26 GMT
I've never heard of Jason Tindall but lets hope it all goes Pete Tong for him.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 8, 2020 11:35:30 GMT
Please please please god let the home game be on when the fans are allowed back into the stadium.
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Post by stokefc on Aug 8, 2020 11:47:54 GMT
I've never heard of Jason Tindall but lets hope it all goes Pete Tong for him. I thought he played rugby
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Post by Northy on Aug 8, 2020 11:52:11 GMT
I've never heard of Jason Tindall but lets hope it all goes Pete Tong for him. he's played for Bournemouth and Weymouth, so probably nobody north of the south coast (apart from Burnley) has
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