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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 13, 2020 22:41:40 GMT
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 13, 2020 23:57:46 GMT
As dire as the football became towards the latter stages, you really have to have so much respect for what he did for this club.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 14, 2020 5:05:04 GMT
As dire as the football became towards the latter stages, you really have to have so much respect for what he did for this club. I will always respect him for allowing me to watch Stoke in a fa cup final But as for the europa league His abject surrender in that was the start of his eventual demise |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 5:31:03 GMT
As dire as the football became towards the latter stages, you really have to have so much respect for what he did for this club. I will always respect him for allowing me to watch Stoke in a fa cup final But as for the europa league His abject surrender in that was the start of his eventual demise We weren't going to win it and needed to beat Swansea the following weekend. Our record after away games in Europe was awful, we only managed a result v Everton |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 14, 2020 7:26:45 GMT
For all the fantastic times we had under Pulis this is the bit that will stick in a lot of fans mind and especially the ones that travelled.I’ll never forget the reaction of fans queuing up at Manchester airport on the morning of the Valencia game when they found out the traveling squad🤔
Looking back with hindsight, I really should have changed the team for the first encounter at the Britannia. The main group needed a rest and, although some of our supporters would have been surprised with the changes I made for the trip to the Mestalla, they couldn’t have asked more from their players in that final match.
We’d created some great experiences for those who travelled, or who had watched us from afar. That season we played a total of 56 games, which included 33 from December to early May.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 14, 2020 7:40:46 GMT
I will always respect him for allowing me to watch Stoke in a fa cup final But as for the europa league His abject surrender in that was the start of his eventual demise We weren't going to win it and needed to beat Swansea the following weekend. Our record after away games in Europe was awful, we only managed a result v Everton That is something I'll never agree with. We may not have won it but all out to get as far as we could was the way to go. That "what if" was a killer really and was beginning of the end for him. It was a great journey and wonderful experience but for me it ended on a sour note. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 7:44:04 GMT
Did he really say the Crouch signing was exactly what we/he needed? It was the start of the dismantling of a side that turned his football from deathball into something remotely worth watching - back to deathball again.
He still hasn't learned has he?
You would think he would take something from his time at Crystal Palace, where he implemented his structure on a team littered with power and pace. No, he went from there to West Brom and repeated the trick he did here - removed all ounces of pace and power and turned it into a slow, meandering deathball side that was going down into the Championship.
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Post by Gods on Jul 14, 2020 7:48:24 GMT
What a man, the cap'ed crusader!
Brought back the good times after nearly a quarter of a century in the wilderness.
Next in line for a statue :-)
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 14, 2020 7:51:27 GMT
He threw us under the bus. It was totally unnecessary.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 14, 2020 8:29:03 GMT
We weren't going to win it and needed to beat Swansea the following weekend. Our record after away games in Europe was awful, we only managed a result v Everton That is something I'll never agree with. We may not have won it but all out to get as far as we could was the way to go. That "what if" was a killer really and was beginning of the end for him. It was a great journey and wonderful experience but for me it ended on a sour note. I tend to agree but Jones had 2 wonderful chances and we could of easily of been 2-0 up. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 14, 2020 8:45:29 GMT
That is something I'll never agree with. We may not have won it but all out to get as far as we could was the way to go. That "what if" was a killer really and was beginning of the end for him. It was a great journey and wonderful experience but for me it ended on a sour note. I tend to agree but Jones had 2 wonderful chances and we could of easily of been 2-0 up. No doubt. The lads that played that night were terrific and performed far better than the supposed 1st team did in the 1st leg. My problem was less with the starting 11 than it was with the bench to be honest. I was pleased to see KJ and Fuller starting up front, less impressed to see Fuller predominantly wide mind, but 2 keepers on the bench, Carlo Nash as an outfielder, was just crazy and smacked of giving up on the tie. The fact that the lads that started performed so well was more down to luck than good judgement in my opinion. Still it is pointless going over old ground. These things have been done to death already. The Europa League experience, having done every game home and away, is something I'll take with me to my grave. Outside the kids being born, it was the best time of my life. Tony Pulis helped to deliver those times so should really be lauded and respected accordingly. The fact he isn't, by so many (including myself) is a little sad really. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 14, 2020 8:53:54 GMT
I will always respect him for allowing me to watch Stoke in a fa cup final But as for the europa league His abject surrender in that was the start of his eventual demise We weren't going to win it and needed to beat Swansea the following weekend. Our record after away games in Europe was awful, we only managed a result v Everton We didn’t need to beat Swansea. We had 30 points on the board with 13 games remaining before the Swansea game. Bolton finished 18th and went down with 36 points. Are we really saying we sacrificed a Europa League game because we couldn’t get six points from 13 league games? |
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 14, 2020 8:56:07 GMT
Did he really say the Crouch signing was exactly what we/he needed? It was the start of the dismantling of a side that turned his football from deathball into something remotely worth watching - back to deathball again. He still hasn't learned has he? You would think he would take something from his time at Crystal Palace, where he implemented his structure on a team littered with power and pace. No, he went from there to West Brom and repeated the trick he did here - removed all ounces of pace and power and turned it into a slow, meandering deathball side that was going down into the Championship. Would have been interesting to see how he’d of done at Palace if he’d had more time. Like you say, the pace and power they had on the wings at that time in Bolasie and Zaha was frightening for anyone. But would he of changed any of that? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 14, 2020 9:06:05 GMT
Did he really say the Crouch signing was exactly what we/he needed? It was the start of the dismantling of a side that turned his football from deathball into something remotely worth watching - back to deathball again. He still hasn't learned has he? You would think he would take something from his time at Crystal Palace, where he implemented his structure on a team littered with power and pace. No, he went from there to West Brom and repeated the trick he did here - removed all ounces of pace and power and turned it into a slow, meandering deathball side that was going down into the Championship. Would have been interesting to see how he’d of done at Palace if he’d had more time. Like you say, the pace and power they had on the wings at that time in Bolasie and Zaha was frightening for anyone. But would he of changed any of that? Well he wanted to sign crouch and wilson in his 1st summer in charge, which prompted the fall out with the board who refused to sanction the deals Edit - where is Bolaisie these days |
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Post by miggoscfc on Jul 14, 2020 9:10:58 GMT
We weren't going to win it and needed to beat Swansea the following weekend. Our record after away games in Europe was awful, we only managed a result v Everton We didn’t need to beat Swansea. We had 30 points on the board with 13 games remaining before the Swansea game. Bolton finished 18th and went down with 36 points. Are we really saying we sacrificed a Europa League game because we couldn’t get six points from 13 league games? With Hindsight and a view of the final table now at hand its easy to jump to that conclusion but had we lost that game we would have been in the bottom 3 with a tricky set of fixtures. The win seemed to lift us and our form got slightly better in those run of games. We will never know what may have happened had we lost that game. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 14, 2020 9:26:43 GMT
Some of the photos in that article bring back great memories of TPs reign. I still firmly believe he should have stayed but fan power at Stoke, like many clubs, holds a lot of sway. But with TP the fans got it wrong imo.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 14, 2020 9:30:09 GMT
We didn’t need to beat Swansea. We had 30 points on the board with 13 games remaining before the Swansea game. Bolton finished 18th and went down with 36 points. Are we really saying we sacrificed a Europa League game because we couldn’t get six points from 13 league games? With Hindsight and a view of the final table now at hand its easy to jump to that conclusion but had we lost that game we would have been in the bottom 3 with a tricky set of fixtures. The win seemed to lift us and our form got slightly better in those run of games. We will never know what may have happened had we lost that game. We wouldn’t have been anywhere near the bottom three. I wonder why Pulis thought it impossible for us to name (at the very least) a strong bench in Valencia and not beat Swansea at home three days later? Why couldn’t we have done both? |
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Post by bobstokie on Jul 14, 2020 9:37:25 GMT
If MON can achieve half what TP did for us as manager I will be very Pleased .#1 save us from certain relegation.check #2 promotion to the prem. ? #3 Establish us in the prem ? #4 FAcup final ? #5 Europa league knock out stages ? I hope he can but it is a big ask. Coymp
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 14, 2020 9:45:12 GMT
We played better with the reserves and if KJ had his shooting boots on we had a chance to actually get something from it, not really a defence of Pulis but we weren't all that bad and as others have said wed needed a result in the league.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 14, 2020 10:18:04 GMT
Would have been interesting to see how he’d of done at Palace if he’d had more time. Like you say, the pace and power they had on the wings at that time in Bolasie and Zaha was frightening for anyone. But would he of changed any of that? Well he wanted to sign crouch and wilson in his 1st summer in charge, which prompted the fall out with the board who refused to sanction the deals Edit - where is Bolaisie these days He had a big money move to Everton which didn’t work out. Fairly sure he had a serious injury and was out for a whole season but where he is now is anyone’s guess. |
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Post by mamasgloves on Jul 14, 2020 10:20:05 GMT
We played better with the reserves and if KJ had his shooting boots on we had a chance to actually get something from it, not really a defence of Pulis but we weren't all that bad and as others have said wed needed a result in the league. Makes my shit itch to this day - calling on the fans to turn up in their thousands before leaving the first team at home Jones might have scored had he been playing with any regularity |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 10:25:48 GMT
Would have been interesting to see how he’d of done at Palace if he’d had more time. Like you say, the pace and power they had on the wings at that time in Bolasie and Zaha was frightening for anyone. But would he of changed any of that? Well he wanted to sign crouch and wilson in his 1st summer in charge, which prompted the fall out with the board who refused to sanction the deals Edit - where is Bolaisie these days Sporting Lisbon on loan. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 11:59:24 GMT
Did he really say the Crouch signing was exactly what we/he needed? It was the start of the dismantling of a side that turned his football from deathball into something remotely worth watching - back to deathball again. He still hasn't learned has he? You would think he would take something from his time at Crystal Palace, where he implemented his structure on a team littered with power and pace. No, he went from there to West Brom and repeated the trick he did here - removed all ounces of pace and power and turned it into a slow, meandering deathball side that was going down into the Championship. I agree with you, but he's also talking about what Crouch brought as a man, lifting the dressing room (even) higher, bringing different standards that players, whose entire careers before us had been below PL level, could change their own standards. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 12:04:13 GMT
If MON can achieve half what TP did for us as manager I will be very Pleased .#1 save us from certain relegation.check #2 promotion to the prem. ? #3 Establish us in the prem ? #4 FAcup final ? #5 Europa league knock out stages ? I hope he can but it is a big ask. Coymp The board is roughly the same. They were, bit by bit, willing to support Pulis in whatever choices he was making in the transfer market. Even in just the 10 years there's now so much more money in the game, but will the Coates family be willing to spend another quarter billion on new, better players? I doubt that. Of course they want better players, but they will be working on the scale that was used last summer. |
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