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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 12, 2020 22:40:57 GMT
An awful footballer as evidenced today. This notion that he’s saved is this season is odd too. He’s been gash bar 4/5 games. Hard worker obviously but whenever quality is needed he failed. Awful at crossing, even worse at finishing. You really haven’t got a fuckin clue
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 12, 2020 22:41:54 GMT
Absolute fucking ungrateful bollox. James McClean is one of the players who gives 100% for this club every time he plays, and that’s an absolute prerequisite if we want to first of all stop embarrassing ourselves against the likes of Wigan and start to be competitive. The last time we were competitive in the Championship we had a team full of James McCleans! BM That’s an absolute insult to most of that team. That team had a bit of genius in Fuller but the rest gave everything for the cause. Mama wasn’t the most talented, nor was Leon Cort, Creswell, Pugh, Wilko or Dicko but they had big hearts just like McClean and he would have fitted into that team pretty well. BM
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 12, 2020 22:43:10 GMT
An awful footballer as evidenced today. This notion that he’s saved is this season is odd too. He’s been gash bar 4/5 games. Hard worker obviously but whenever quality is needed he failed. Awful at crossing, even worse at finishing. You really haven’t got a fuckin clue Clearly not 🤦♂️ The one cross he tried was his over hit bollocks. And the chance he missed showed him up for the brainless footballer he is. Side foot and bend it but he knows one way only and that’s to twat it like his crosses. Fucking awful.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 12, 2020 22:45:44 GMT
That’s an absolute insult to most of that team. That team had a bit of genius in Fuller but the rest gave everything for the cause. Mama wasn’t the most talented, nor was Leon Cort, Creswell, Pugh, Wilko or Dicko but they had big hearts just like McClean and he would have fitted well into that team pretty well. BM Lawrence has more footballing ability in his little toe than McClean. As does Cresswell. As does Delap. As does Whelan. As does Shawcross. Mama and Dicko I’ll give you.
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 12, 2020 22:52:34 GMT
That team had a bit of genius in Fuller but the rest gave everything for the cause. Mama wasn’t the most talented, nor was Leon Cort, Creswell, Pugh, Wilko or Dicko but they had big hearts just like McClean and he would have fitted well into that team pretty well. BM Lawrence has more footballing ability in his little toe than McClean. As does Cresswell. As does Delap. As does Whelan. As does Shawcross. Mama and Dicko I’ll give you. I didn’t mention Lawrence, Delap, Shawcross or Whelan and you haven’t mentioned Cort, Pugh or Wilko. Like I say he’d have fitted in pretty well with that group because he gives a fuck and I’m sure that if TFP found a place for Vincent fucking Pericard he’d have been delighted with the comparative world class talent that McClean offers. BM
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Post by Rose City Potter on Jul 12, 2020 22:52:51 GMT
I think that he is a long way down the list of problems right now. You could put him anywhere on the park and he would give it 100%. He gives you options to change tactics/formation. I would definitely keep him as a utility player.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 12, 2020 22:55:54 GMT
Lawrence has more footballing ability in his little toe than McClean. As does Cresswell. As does Delap. As does Whelan. As does Shawcross. Mama and Dicko I’ll give you. I didn’t mention Lawrence, Delap, Shawcross or Whelan and you haven’t mentioned Cort, Pugh or Wilko. Like I say he’d have fitted in pretty well with that group because he gives a fuck and I’m sure that if TFP found a place for Vincent fucking Pericard he’d have been delighted with the comparative world class talent that McClean offers. BM I think Wilko is much better than him and Pugh actually was a good footballer imo but just a bit of a fanny. Cort I hated. Awful defender and massive fanny with no saving grace bar goals.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 12, 2020 23:38:23 GMT
Although Walters had his fans (me included), the negativity around McClean is similar to the negativity about Walters when he was playing for Stoke. Yet Walters is now largely considered a hero.
I'm not saying McClean is a hero yet, before anyone jumps on that...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 0:57:36 GMT
An awful footballer as evidenced today. This notion that he’s saved is this season is odd too. He’s been gash bar 4/5 games. Hard worker obviously but whenever quality is needed he failed. Awful at crossing, even worse at finishing. Another assist today but keep it under your agenda ridden hat
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Post by hyaduck on Jul 13, 2020 3:03:40 GMT
An awful footballer as evidenced today. This notion that he’s saved is this season is odd too. He’s been gash bar 4/5 games. Hard worker obviously but whenever quality is needed he failed. Awful at crossing, even worse at finishing. An awful footballer, what the F##k would you know. You're the clown who thinks donkey Diouf should be in the team.
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Post by lordb on Jul 13, 2020 7:22:12 GMT
I listened to the game yesterday so when I saw the highlights I was expecting a shocking miss from MacLean first half.
Just wasn't was it. Should have scored but not the howler I was expecting.
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Post by dudnostokie on Jul 13, 2020 7:29:45 GMT
If you play in the front 3, you've got to be getting double figures for goals and/or assists and McClean will never be that player. Still, he works 'aaard and is the kind of player we need right now for this situation I guess. He's managed 6 goals and 5 assists this season, while missing 10 games and playing out of position and in a very poor team for a fair proportion of the rest of it. If you combine goals and assists per minutes played, McClean has a better record than Clucas this season. As part of a good team next season, he has every chance of reaching double figures for goals and/or assists. Good post. He's busted his arse for us this season, and contributed with vital goals and assists. If we had a team with his attitude and work ethic we wouldn't be in this mess. I don't give a fuck about his politics, and I can completely empathise with his outlook towards the anthem/poppy wearing (if I was from Derry I would do the same). He'd be first name on the team sheet for me and I can see him doing well next season. Keep it up Jamo.
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Post by ParaPsych on Jul 13, 2020 8:01:36 GMT
I listened to the game yesterday so when I saw the highlights I was expecting a shocking miss from MacLean first half. Just wasn't was it. Should have scored but not the howler I was expecting. Because some people are only capable of speaking in hyperbole.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 13, 2020 8:18:57 GMT
A football with very limited quality however he does have a great work rate, but there's no point bombing down the wing for your cross to be overhit or hit 1st man, the signing only brought division amongst fans, we could have got a younger, better, cheaper player with less hassle surrounding him than what we spent on Mcclean
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jul 13, 2020 8:49:12 GMT
A football with very limited quality however he does have a great work rate, but there's no point bombing down the wing for your cross to be overhit or hit 1st man, the signing only brought division amongst fans, we could have got a younger, better, cheaper player with less hassle surrounding him than what we spent on Mcclean We could have got who, for example,??
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 13, 2020 8:55:43 GMT
A football with very limited quality however he does have a great work rate, but there's no point bombing down the wing for your cross to be overhit or hit 1st man, the signing only brought division amongst fans, we could have got a younger, better, cheaper player with less hassle surrounding him than what we spent on Mcclean We could have got who, for example,?? That's not my job, but £6mil could've got better. That's not difficult to fathom.
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Post by RAF on Jul 13, 2020 8:58:18 GMT
A football with very limited quality however he does have a great work rate, but there's no point bombing down the wing for your cross to be overhit or hit 1st man, the signing only brought division amongst fans, we could have got a younger, better, cheaper player with less hassle surrounding him than what we spent on Mcclean We could have got who, for example,?? Bela at Birmingham for one. He was a free agent and a real handful. H
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jul 13, 2020 9:02:43 GMT
We could have got who, for example,?? That's not my job, but £6mil could've got better. That's not difficult to fathom. You said, younger, better, cheaper, who,?
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 13, 2020 9:13:25 GMT
That's not my job, but £6mil could've got better. That's not difficult to fathom. You said, younger, better, cheaper, who,? Buendia at Norwich, they signed him from Getafe at similar time for £1.5mil, 8 years younger. 8 goals 12 assists in 18/19 season 3 goals 6 assists for mcclean Up there for chances created in the prem this season.
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Post by lagwafis on Jul 13, 2020 9:14:52 GMT
I wasn't happy with the £6 million at the time but I think he's the least of our worries at the moment, especially if Verlinden continues to develop and O'Neill rotates the two of them next season. It's probable that some games will be better suited for McClean, others for Thibaud. If we're using a combination of goals and assists to show the value of a left-sided midfielder / forward in this league, this is how he compares to Cresswell Richard Cresswell - 2007/08 - 46 games, 12 goals, 1 assist = 13 James McClean - 2019/20 - 34 games, 6 goals, 7 assists = 13 Neither are ' Liam Lawrence' PFA team of the season standard (15 goals and 16 assists in 2007/08), but still merit a place in a squad at this level.
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Post by miggoscfc on Jul 13, 2020 9:32:55 GMT
If we had 11 Jimmy Macs we would not be in this mess. Him and Clucas should be first name on the teamsheet and id be pissed if either were not here next season.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 13, 2020 9:38:32 GMT
MON clearly likes him and he has been important for us this season. However If we survive MON will probably want a right footer to play on the left with a full back overlapping in the classic 4-3-3 set up
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Post by skelman on Jul 13, 2020 9:39:23 GMT
McClean is good without being excellent. Like many players he can be frustrating at times. No-one can fail to accept the importance and effort he will have made in the event of us surviving this season McClean's DNA is the right stuff for Stoke
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 13, 2020 9:39:35 GMT
MON clearly likes him and he has been important for us this season. However If we survive MON will probably want a right footer to play on the left with a full back overlapping in the classic 4-3-3 set up
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Post by skelman on Jul 13, 2020 9:52:04 GMT
MON clearly likes him and he has been important for us this season. However If we survive MON will probably want a right footer to play on the left with a full back overlapping in the classic 4-3-3 set up X 2Chiswick are u still suffering from repetitive stress disorder?
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Post by ursemboys on Jul 13, 2020 9:56:24 GMT
McClean would be first on my team sheet every time, we all know you know who talks shit, he is the worst poster on here.
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Post by RAF on Jul 13, 2020 12:39:22 GMT
He's extremely average. The fact that he is some peoples favourite player goes to show what a shower of shit our players have been this season. You can't fault his effort, but it's typical of some Stoke fans who just want to see 100% regardless of lack of skill and guile. It's that bullshit 'Stoke DNA' he works aaaard Pulis driven crap. It is possible to acquire players with skill and effort. Unfortunately our club has a penchant for buying overrated expensive journeymen looking for another payday.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 12:57:21 GMT
Although Walters had his fans (me included), the negativity around McClean is similar to the negativity about Walters when he was playing for Stoke. Yet Walters is now largely considered a hero. I'm not saying McClean is a hero yet, before anyone jumps on that... The negativity is one individual's blinkered view on here which gets more ridiculous with every post. i think those who watch the team with an intelligent, open mind can see what a huge part he's played since November in getting us out of an almighty mess.
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Post by bolders on Jul 13, 2020 13:05:56 GMT
I’d rather take McClean and him working aaarrrd and producing what he has for us with his limited skill than his counterpart on the other side who has the skill and has been utter gash for us
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Post by noustie on Jul 13, 2020 13:11:43 GMT
I’d rather take McClean and him working aaarrrd and producing what he has for us with his limited skill than his counterpart on the other side who has the skill and has been utter gash for us Without McClean running his bollocks off our cluster f**k omnishambles at left back becomes even more exploitable.
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