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Post by nightwish on Jul 10, 2020 11:07:04 GMT
ince, volkes and mclean cost a lot more than bojan, arnoutivic and shaqiri
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 11:09:27 GMT
Kevin Wimmer cost more than Bojan, Shaqiri, Arnautovic, Munesia and Shawcross
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 10, 2020 11:11:22 GMT
Kevin Wimmer cost more than Bojan, Shaqiri, Arnautovic, Munesia and Shawcross That actually made me feel ill  |
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 10, 2020 11:12:00 GMT
ince, volkes and mclean cost a lot more than bojan, arnoutivic and shaqiri The only manager we’ve had that was in the slightest bit interested in shopping abroad was Hughes. No doubt that’s where best value is but it’s been a real blind spot for Coates and every manager he’s ever employed bar Hughes. BM |
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Post by iglugluk on Jul 10, 2020 11:18:53 GMT
ince, volkes and mclean cost a lot more than bojan, arnoutivic and shaqiri The only manager we’ve had that was in the slightest bit interested in shopping abroad was Hughes. No doubt that’s where best value is but it’s been a real blind spot for Coates and every manager he’s ever employed bar Hughes. BM Fair point, although I would think many Stoke fans wholeheartedly approve of operating a no foreigners approach to the club given the citiy's enthusiasm for Brexit!  |
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Post by oslostokie1 on Jul 10, 2020 11:19:57 GMT
If you recruit four dyed-in-the-wool Championship (at best) managers with few contacts outside the British Isles, you are bound to get a motley selection of lower league British-based journeymen being recruited, as that is all that they know. Pulis was similar in that regard but he at least knew how to organise a team and pulled a few rabbits out of the hat with Ric, Rory's long throw, etc, which gave us something different.
I don't think the players we have now particularly lack effort, they are just not very good and the money which has been spent on them is criminal (eg. Woods, Afobe, Ince, Clucas, Vokes, Smith) and a bigger net waste of money than anything which happened on Hughes' watch. At least with Imbula, you could see why he had bought him, even if it did not ultimately work out.
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Post by future100 on Jul 10, 2020 11:43:12 GMT
If you recruit four dyed-in-the-wool Championship (at best) managers with few contacts outside the British Isles, you are bound to get a motley selection of lower league British-based journeymen being recruited, as that is all that they know. Pulis was similar in that regard but he at least knew how to organise a team and pulled a few rabbits out of the hat with Ric, Rory's long throw, etc, which gave us something different. I don't think the players we have now particularly lack effort, they are just not very good and the money which has been spent on them is criminal (eg. Woods, Afobe, Ince, Clucas, Vokes, Smith) and a bigger net waste of money than anything which happened on Hughes' watch. At least with Imbula, you could see why he had bought him, even if it did not ultimately work out. Totally agree with this. |
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Post by cousindupree on Jul 10, 2020 11:57:51 GMT
ince, volkes and mclean cost a lot more than bojan, arnoutivic and shaqiri The only manager we’ve had that was in the slightest bit interested in shopping abroad was Hughes. No doubt that’s where best value is but it’s been a real blind spot for Coates and every manager he’s ever employed bar Hughes. BM The days of overseas players have gone and I don't think the Coates was ever a great fan. Our overseas scouting has been absolutely awful and you wonder who co-ordinates this. You would expect MON to have next to zero knowledge of overseas club football and seems fixated on Scotland (which he knows) or NI players he has worked with. His recruitment is going to be interesting and will be the difference as to whether we can progress. I have never understood considering the riches we have as a club why we didn't have the best scouting and recruitment team in place across the whole of Europe. Coates is very old school with his insistence on giving the manager total responsibility for scouting and recruitment. It is what has got us into this mess. And as a perfect example of the clubs commitment to having a recruitment team and process that befits a top hals premier league club we recruit just Mark Cartwright!! We all know his cv but what didn't appear on it was that he was JC's beer monitor who always bought the drinks. I know this from someone who was part of their drinking club at The White Lion Barthomley. Until the Coates family break up their cosy Cabal of PC JC and TS and allow someone with serious footballing knowledge and credibility to spearhead recruitment and be part of the board we are likely to continue to bumble along. |
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Post by peterpan1 on Jul 10, 2020 12:06:47 GMT
It is a fairly shocking indictment when you add it up like that and look at the team we currently have. I may get shot down for this, but we could do worse than sign a few Eastern Europeans. Poles, Ukrainian, Russian. Not superstars but they are physically fit, hard as nails, put a shift in and would give a shit. Also wouldn't cost the earth.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 10, 2020 12:13:06 GMT
Relegation from the premier has cost us many more millions.
Which could take years and years to turn around.
Scholes out.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 10, 2020 12:19:19 GMT
The only manager we’ve had that was in the slightest bit interested in shopping abroad was Hughes. No doubt that’s where best value is but it’s been a real blind spot for Coates and every manager he’s ever employed bar Hughes. BM The days of overseas players have gone and I don't think the Coates was ever a great fan. Our overseas scouting has been absolutely awful and you wonder who co-ordinates this. You would expect MON to have next to zero knowledge of overseas club football and seems fixated on Scotland (which he knows) or NI players he has worked with. His recruitment is going to be interesting and will be the difference as to whether we can progress. I have never understood considering the riches we have as a club why we didn't have the best scouting and recruitment team in place across the whole of Europe. Coates is very old school with his insistence on giving the manager total responsibility for scouting and recruitment. It is what has got us into this mess. And as a perfect example of the clubs commitment to having a recruitment team and process that befits a top hals premier league club we recruit just Mark Cartwright!! We all know his cv but what didn't appear on it was that he was JC's beer monitor who always bought the drinks. I know this from someone who was part of their drinking club at The White Lion Barthomley. Until the Coates family break up their cosy Cabal of PC JC and TS and allow someone with serious footballing knowledge and credibility to spearhead recruitment and be part of the board we are likely to continue to bumble along. Spot on. |
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