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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 7:54:31 GMT
Just having a conversation with a work colleague and we got round to how much our squad cost us. We worked out between us that our starting lineup last night cost circa 37M, with around 13M on the bench and a further 64M out on loan?
Butland 2.5M
Smith 4M
Batth 3M
BMI - 8M
McClean - 6M
Clucas - 6M
Vokes - 7M
Total - 36.5
Subs:
Lindsay - 2.5M
Ince - 10M
Thompson - 500k
Total - 13M
rest free transfers / loans / youth players
Out on loan / returned (unavailable)
Wimmer - 18M
N'Diaye - 14M
Etebo - 8M
Afobe - 12M
Woods - 6M
Bauer - 6M
Total - 64M
Is that really right? Am I reading that correctly?
a squad costing a grand total of circa 114M hurtling towards League One?
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Post by potterpaul on Jul 10, 2020 7:57:46 GMT
Do you require me to laugh or cry?
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Post by neddy on Jul 10, 2020 7:58:49 GMT
And people wonder why MON makes the comments he does?
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Jul 10, 2020 7:59:20 GMT
‘Nothing wrong with the process’
The club has been neglected in terms of management structure across the board since Hughes got bored and gave up. Pointless chucking money at a problem if you have no kind of real organisation or process. The owners of the club are taking the piss out of everyone including themselves!!
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 10, 2020 8:01:42 GMT
I would suggest it's worse in the case of Vokes add another couple of millions in the form of Crouch 😤
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 8:09:17 GMT
Impressive, isn't it??
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Post by greystokie on Jul 10, 2020 8:10:18 GMT
You can add to that the £12m we paid for Berahino as under normal circumstances he would still be under contract. 😕
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 8:12:08 GMT
You can add to that the £12m we paid for Berahino as under normal circumstances he would still be under contract. 😕 Would Imbula also??? |
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Post by robrigo on Jul 10, 2020 8:12:13 GMT
How utterly depressing. It really does ram home how incompetent our recruitment is, and how appalling our performance as a club has been.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 10, 2020 8:13:43 GMT
Just having a conversation with a work colleague and we got round to how much our squad cost us. We worked out between us that our starting lineup last night cost circa 37M, with around 13M on the bench and a further 64M out on loan? Butland 2.5M Smith 4M Batth 3M BMI - 8M McClean - 6M Clucas - 6M Vokes - 7M Total - 36.5 Subs:Lindsay - 2.5M Ince - 10M Thompson - 500k Total - 13M rest free transfers / loans / youth players Out on loan / returned (unavailable)Wimmer - 18M N'Diaye - 14M Etebo - 8M Afobe - 12M Woods - 6M Bauer - 6M Total - 64M Is that really right? Am I reading that correctly? a squad costing a grand total of circa 114M hurtling towards League One? The worst part is that if we sell them all we would hardly get £20M back for the lot! That is really mind-boggling in my opinion!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 8:17:04 GMT
I have one more question to ask.
Has this level of expensive failure ever been achieved before or are we true pioneers in this field?
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Post by robrigo on Jul 10, 2020 8:20:30 GMT
I have one more question to ask. Has this level of expensive failure ever been achieved before or are we true pioneers in this field? It’s a failure of epic proportions in terms of pounds spent. I think we’ll be hard pushed to find an example such as this from a supposed stable club with regards to ownership. So I reckon that Stoke City are pioneers I that regard. Well done and a huge congratulations to everyone. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 10, 2020 8:23:12 GMT
Missing £12m for Allen too.
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Jul 10, 2020 8:28:32 GMT
All our history we’ve been skint, and then this.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2020 8:33:25 GMT
McClean - 6M
Vokes - 7M
Honestly, 3m for the pair or you look elsewhere.
13m on McClean and Vokes. Jesus wept.
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Post by s8to on Jul 10, 2020 8:45:12 GMT
Scholes out!
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Post by musik on Jul 10, 2020 8:58:49 GMT
Just having a conversation with a work colleague and we got round to how much our squad cost us. We worked out between us that our starting lineup last night cost circa 37M, with around 13M on the bench and a further 64M out on loan? Butland 2.5M Smith 4M Batth 3M BMI - 8M McClean - 6M Clucas - 6M Vokes - 7M Total - 36.5 Subs:Lindsay - 2.5M Ince - 10M Thompson - 500k Total - 13M rest free transfers / loans / youth players Out on loan / returned (unavailable)Wimmer - 18M N'Diaye - 14M Etebo - 8M Afobe - 12M Woods - 6M Bauer - 6M Total - 64M Is that really right? Am I reading that correctly? a squad costing a grand total of circa 114M hurtling towards League One? Most interesting part is this though: The most expensive players are the ones that didn't fit in at all, the ones who are Unavailable!! |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 10, 2020 9:01:00 GMT
It’s absolutely staggering the amount of money wasted on those wasters.How some at the club sleep at night I’ll never know
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Post by dingdongbell on Jul 10, 2020 9:01:35 GMT
Just having a conversation with a work colleague and we got round to how much our squad cost us. We worked out between us that our starting lineup last night cost circa 37M, with around 13M on the bench and a further 64M out on loan? Butland 2.5M Smith 4M Batth 3M BMI - 8M McClean - 6M Clucas - 6M Vokes - 7M Total - 36.5 Subs:Lindsay - 2.5M Ince - 10M Thompson - 500k Total - 13M rest free transfers / loans / youth players Out on loan / returned (unavailable)Wimmer - 18M N'Diaye - 14M Etebo - 8M Afobe - 12M Woods - 6M Bauer - 6M Total - 64M Is that really right? Am I reading that correctly? a squad costing a grand total of circa 114M hurtling towards League One? The worst part is that if we sell them all we would hardly get £20M back for the lot! That is really mind-boggling in my opinion!!! B-|there is absolutely no chance of getting 20 million for that lot in the current climate , they would be lucky to break even giving that some will have to be paid off to. leave and reduce the wage bill. |
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Post by musik on Jul 10, 2020 9:01:53 GMT
It’s absolutely staggering the amount of money wasted on those wasters.How some at the club sleep at night I’ll never know sleeping pills |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 9:21:09 GMT
It’s absolutely staggering the amount of money wasted on those wasters.How some at the club sleep at night I’ll never know sleeping pills Please keep posting musik, please don't ever stop...or change. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 10, 2020 9:22:23 GMT
Sunderland's players in their Championship relegation year can't have been far off, so if you allow for the increase in general player values between their signings and ours, they could have been worse. I've plucked a few out relatively randomly here - I don't know if other players were signed for more or as much: Ndong £18m Rodwell £11m Khazri £11m Djilobodji £9m Cattermole £6.5m Koné £6m www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sunderland-afc/kader/verein/289/saison_id/2017/plus/1At least Stoke City had the foresight to include wage reduction relegation clauses. Edit: I'm trying not to mention the players that went back up to full salary after relegation and the removal of bonuses, but I have as I know someone else will! The most damning for Stoke is the players not even at the club. Otherwise, Vokes, McClean etc. wouldn't have seemed so overpriced. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 9:27:07 GMT
Sunderland's signings in their Championship relegation year can't have been far off, so if you allow for the increase in general player values between their signings and ours, they could have been worse. I've plucked a few out relatively randomly here - I don't know if other players were signed for more or as much: Ndong £18m Rodwell £11m Khazri £11m Djilobodji £9m Cattermole £6.5m Koné £6m www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sunderland-afc/kader/verein/289/saison_id/2017/plus/1At least Stoke City had the foresight to include wage reduction relegation clauses (I'm trying not to mention the players that went back up to full salary after relegation and the removal of bonuses). That list is wrong. They were players they signed in the premier league. In the Championship they signed James Vaughan for 500k, Jason Steele for 500k and McGeady for 250k. A few more were signed on a free. They sold nearly 30M worth of players. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 10, 2020 9:28:41 GMT
Sunderland's signings in their Championship relegation year can't have been far off, so if you allow for the increase in general player values between their signings and ours, they could have been worse. I've plucked a few out relatively randomly here - I don't know if other players were signed for more or as much: Ndong £18m Rodwell £11m Khazri £11m Djilobodji £9m Cattermole £6.5m Koné £6m www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sunderland-afc/kader/verein/289/saison_id/2017/plus/1At least Stoke City had the foresight to include wage reduction relegation clauses (I'm trying not to mention the players that went back up to full salary after relegation and the removal of bonuses). That list is wrong. They were players they signed in the premier league. In the Championship they signed James Vaughan for 500k, Jason Steele for 500k and McGeady for 250k. A few more were signed on a free. They sold nearly 30M worth of players. I'd already edited to say "Sunderland's players..." As a direct comparison to Stoke this season, it works? |
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 10, 2020 9:48:51 GMT
And people wonder why MON makes the comments he does? I suspect his comments last night about little value for money and the squad not being as strong as it should be may give a little hint about what is going on behind the scenes. His attitude is definitely different since the restart. Before he was always saying he had plenty to work with perhaps covering up what he really felt about the players at his disposal. I wonder, based on nothing but gut feeling whether he has had conversations with Scholes about transfer targets and been totally dissatisfied with the answers he has been given. Perhaps he gave Scholes a profile of the type of players/positions he would like and has been presented with a list of options consisting of the likes of Ward, Gregory et al. As I've said before what were the full back options for example if Ward was first choice? When a club has a succession of managers seemingly all making poor decisions on transfers you have to look beyond them and ask who is the person who has been involved in and sanctioned these transfers for the whole time. |
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Post by stantheman on Jul 10, 2020 9:50:21 GMT
Out on loan / returned (unavailable)
Wimmer - 18M
N'Diaye - 14M
Etebo - 8M
Afobe - 12M
Woods - 6M
Bauer - 6M
Total - 64M
The craziest part of this whole clusterfuck is that those players out on loan are unlikely to ever play for the club again. They'll be sold off, with massive golden handshakes, for a fraction of what was paid for them. Add to that list the worst signings in the history of the Club - Saido/Imbula - and we've got to have had the worst transfer record in the history of the modern game.
The future will be a lot more of the Jordan Thompson type of player, which won't be a bad thing, but we will probably be in League 1
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Post by prudhoesnose on Jul 10, 2020 10:04:28 GMT
These fees keep me awake at night. And it's not even my money.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 10:11:34 GMT
Lets not forget how much money we've ploughed into our youth setup.
Campbell also cost about £1.5m
Collins cost money too didn't he?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 10:18:04 GMT
All our history we’ve been skint, and then this. We're like that fat clown who won the Lottery, Mickey Carroll. Didn't know what had hit him, and spaffed it up the wall, pretty spectacularly. |
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Post by Gods on Jul 10, 2020 10:18:17 GMT
It's like if you made it your life times work to spend that much money and field a team as poor as ours you still couldn't do it!
There is almost an operatic grandeur to what has been achieved.
All you can really do is take your hat off to everyone involved :-)
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