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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 9, 2020 21:24:35 GMT
Sorry this is so late, just didn't have the heart tbh  First half I thought, really strong and maybe there was going to be a goal in this for us if we were lucky - so, good management. Then we simply got overrun. Are Leeds away really 5 goals better than us? I'm tempted to say, yes they probably are right now. If we'd got everything right maybe we'd have lost 3 not 5 - what concerns me most is yet again, Mick's got to reboot the lads from game to game and that starts to get proper scary one place above the trapdoor. Despite the tonking then - I want to type 6 but can't do it, so 5 from me add * if by any chance etc |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 9, 2020 21:39:18 GMT
3, right players wrong set up, surrendered before it even started.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 9, 2020 21:39:45 GMT
MoN 4
Bayern 10 😎
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Post by citynickscfc on Jul 9, 2020 21:46:46 GMT
We lost 5-0.
Has to be a 1? Anything more suggests we got something right?
I want to lay blame on the players but MON set up to draw and this was a "bonus game"... His own words. I don't mind bonus games in the open against the top 5 or 6, you can forget those and rightly so just give it a go, but in the championship the opposition are almost all equally shit. You match them or you don't because you were crap. Today we were crap and made Leeds look like real Madrid, just like we did fucking Wigan athletic.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 9, 2020 21:47:22 GMT
The _awful window he had learning in the Job is catching up with him the three players he let go are all better than the three he signed two of which can’t get a game and none a start today .
His tactics today were woeful today he gets 1 out of 10 for turning up and the idea. Leeds are unstoppable is laughable , Nathan Jones managed it a week ago .
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 9, 2020 21:50:00 GMT
First half 7
Second half 1
Average 4
Feel a bit sorry for MON.
Plays virtually the same side as Barnsley and they show some mettle for 43 minutes.
Then give away a dopey penalty and just collapse.
The last time i saw heads go down like that was on a Ron Jeremy movie.
Players need to be accountable for that atrocious second half.
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Post by richardparker on Jul 9, 2020 21:52:46 GMT
Decent game plan, given respective resources and table positions.
Good until the 43rd minute.
After the half-time team talk and personnel change had little impact, the players seemed to throw in the towel. It was then just a question of how many Leeds could score.
As the Sky commentator said, the 5-0 scoreline flattered Stoke!
MON - 5
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Post by datguy on Jul 9, 2020 21:54:18 GMT
Up until minute 40: 7
Everything considered after that: 1
A couple of ones recently, MO'N...
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Post by liathroid on Jul 9, 2020 21:54:22 GMT
Sorry this is so late, just didn't have the heart tbh First half I thought, really strong and maybe there was going to be a goal in this for us if we were lucky - so, good management. Then we simply got overrun. Are Leeds away really 5 goals better than us? I'm tempted to say, yes they probably are right now. If we'd got everything right maybe we'd have lost 3 not 5 - what concerns me most is yet again, Mick's got to reboot the lads from game to game and that starts to get proper scary one place above the trapdoor. Despite the tonking then - I want to type 6 but can't do it, so 5 from me add * if by any chance etc ah Sal has the love gone |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 9, 2020 21:55:31 GMT
Decent game plan, given respective resources and table positions. Good until the 43rd minute. After the half-time team talk and personnel change had little impact, the players seemed to throw in the towel. It was then just a question of how many Leeds could score. As the Sky commentator said, the 5-0 scoreline flattered Stoke! MON - 5 5 but Fergie would struggle to get a tune out of this shower of shite! |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jul 9, 2020 21:56:57 GMT
4 Disappointed for a team fighting for survival there wasn't much fight. Gouranga.  |
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Post by blackpoolred on Jul 9, 2020 22:14:59 GMT
There seems to be a decent manager in there somewhere, but he has no experience and it shows sometimes, done like a kipper against a far better manager tonight and yet another woeful away performance under his reign that easily beats any of his recent predecessors
Defensively we have been catastrophic since the end of the Hughes era and his only addition in his first window was an old overweight player. I suppose we should be grateful he actually tried to bring a defender in, but of course, we don't have any problems in defence do we.
I really don't know how you can give a team 5/10 when they did not create a solitary chance on goal and a team that capitulated when they should have been aware that goal difference is worth a point at this stage of the season.
Not one single positive tonight - 0/10
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 9, 2020 22:26:09 GMT
First half 7 Second half 1 Average 4 Feel a bit sorry for MON. Plays virtually the same side as Barnsley and they show some mettle for 43 minutes. Then give away a dopey penalty and just collapse. The last time i saw heads go down like that was on a Ron Jeremy movie. Players need to be accountable for that atrocious second half. He didn't play virtually the same side though. It might have been the same players but the formation was very, very different. After us looking pretty inept since the restart, he finally went 4231 against Barnsley and it brought out the best in every player, a formation that they all understood and looked really happy playing. I think most folks thought it was now absolutely certain that he would stick with the same formation for the rest of the season. So it was just bizzare to see us start with a completely new 343, away, to arguably the best side in the division. The players were all over the place. The players that looked so confident on Saturday were exactly the same ones (bar one) who played tonight, what changed, was the tactics and formation. God knows why ... |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 9, 2020 23:00:07 GMT
First half 7 Second half 1 Average 4 Feel a bit sorry for MON. Plays virtually the same side as Barnsley and they show some mettle for 43 minutes.
Then give away a dopey penalty and just collapse. The last time i saw heads go down like that was on a Ron Jeremy movie. Players need to be accountable for that atrocious second half. I thought it showed the set up with this lot makes a massive difference, it was stupid of MON to change it. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 23:00:58 GMT
First half 7 Second half 1 Average 4 Feel a bit sorry for MON. Plays virtually the same side as Barnsley and they show some mettle for 43 minutes.
Then give away a dopey penalty and just collapse. The last time i saw heads go down like that was on a Ron Jeremy movie. Players need to be accountable for that atrocious second half. I thought it showed the set up with this lot makes a massive difference, it was stupid of MON to change it. Yeah I don’t know what better evidence people want tbh. |
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Post by stokemark on Jul 9, 2020 23:01:48 GMT
5 seems about right 😞
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 9, 2020 23:02:35 GMT
I thought it showed the set up with this lot makes a massive difference, it was stupid of MON to change it. Yeah I don’t know what better evidence people want tbh. Its a worry the manager doesn't see it, the red flag is still flying for me. |
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Post by skip on Jul 9, 2020 23:16:51 GMT
First forty minutes 8
Fag end of first half -10
Second half -10
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Post by jarvinski on Jul 9, 2020 23:35:12 GMT
The two players he signed are fucking useless, and now we are after a fucking scottish goal keeper named marshall whio’s 35 ffs
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Post by jarvinski on Jul 9, 2020 23:36:30 GMT
Plus, they are not fit enough to last 45 minutes
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Post by generationex on Jul 10, 2020 0:09:27 GMT
He’s stuck with what’s here. He can’t change that.
But...
I’m scared - He’s never bought a player - and what he’s signed so far look worse than the Hughes and others signings.
If he can’t get this right we’re not even back to square one. More like minus 2.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jul 10, 2020 0:20:41 GMT
3
Solid first half till the penalty after that was just another typical stoke performance. Pathetic
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 4:16:21 GMT
The two players he signed are fucking useless, and now we are after a fucking scottish goal keeper named marshall whio’s 35 ffs And a 35yr old left back |
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Post by NassauDave on Jul 10, 2020 4:26:46 GMT
The worst squad in my life time and a nice but ineffective manager.
So from me: FUCK ALL.
I actually hate our players and wish that they would all fucking do one.
Fucking pirates of Stoke on Trent you useless cunts. Between you, you have literally killed my club you bastards.
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Post by greenhoff on Jul 10, 2020 5:46:37 GMT
First half 7 Second half 1 Average 4 Feel a bit sorry for MON. Plays virtually the same side as Barnsley and they show some mettle for 43 minutes. Then give away a dopey penalty and just collapse. The last time i saw heads go down like that was on a Ron Jeremy movie. Players need to be accountable for that atrocious second half. He didn't play virtually the same side though. It might have been the same players but the formation was very, very different. After us looking pretty inept since the restart, he finally went 4231 against Barnsley and it brought out the best in every player, a formation that they all understood and looked really happy playing. I think most folks thought it was now absolutely certain that he would stick with the same formation for the rest of the season. So it was just bizzare to see us start with a completely new 343, away, to arguably the best side in the division. The players were all over the place. The players that looked so confident on Saturday were exactly the same ones (bar one) who played tonight, what changed, was the tactics and formation. God knows why ... This 100%. As shit as the players are MON has been awful since the restart. Why the hell did he mess with it again? I honestly think if hed have gone 4231 against Reading and in subsequent games wed be on the beach now. I just cant fathom it. Utterly bizarre. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 10, 2020 5:48:00 GMT
I didn’t rate the 3-4-3 formation, but that said it worked for 40 minutes
A 3 from me
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 5:53:26 GMT
It's a huge worry that he either hasn't worked out that a flat front three doesn't work or has worked it out and continues to use it, either on a base of a 4 and a 3 or a base of a 3 and a 4.
It's obvious that Nick Powell centrally is the glue, the magnet that brings the wide men in off the flanks and gets bodies around Vokes. It's obvious that centrally he's the hook of creativity.
He must play centrally. It's so blindingly obvious.
The manager deserves a 0 for moving away from that every time he does it. Win, lose or draw.
Stop being stupid and or pig headed Michael. We know the squad is shit and we know how well you've done with them, but please don't sink to their level.
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Post by greenhoff on Jul 10, 2020 5:53:51 GMT
Big fat zero.
Michael stop pissing about with the formation and NEVER play Powell out left.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 10, 2020 6:08:03 GMT
The worst squad in my life time and a nice but ineffective manager. So from me: FUCK ALL. I actually hate our players and wish that they would all fucking do one. Fucking pirates of Stoke on Trent you useless cunts. Between you, you have literally killed my club you bastards. The process and it’s architect bought them and the managers here and removed the ones that were doing well , Can anyone honestly say they believe with any credibility Rowett , Lambert , Jones and O’Neil were likely to improve on the achievements of Mark Hughes and Tony Pulis. , look at their respective records in management, it’s a self inflicted demise, caused by lazy , arrogant , protection of vested interest and it’s at the door squarely of the chief executive with the owners needing to accept they ( John ) have allowed a culture of failure and deceit to be built in a vacuum of football knowledge in the boardroom , it must break peters heart |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 7:24:20 GMT
That half time substitution alone should get him a 0.
I do feel for him inhereting these gutless wankers but if he thinks the future surrounds blackpool reserve players and Scottish league 1 players then we really are in trouble
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First half I thought, really strong and maybe there was going to be a goal in this for us if we were lucky - so, good management. Then we simply got overrun. Are Leeds away really 5 goals better than us? I'm tempted to say, yes they probably are right now. If we'd got everything right maybe we'd have lost 3 not 5 - what concerns me most is yet again, Mick's got to reboot the lads from game to game and that starts to get proper scary one place above the trapdoor.
