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Post by wearestoke80 on Jul 9, 2020 18:52:39 GMT
We'll stay up. And we'll win on Sunday. Regardless, this season has been fucking shit and a big clear out is needed
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Post by Rose City Potter on Jul 9, 2020 18:59:27 GMT
It's almost as if getting a decent, experienced, proven manager might be something that we could possibly think about looking into... Hard to make it up. Not even Bielsa could get that team of plodders playing high tempo football. It would defy science..... I don't disagree. However I can't imagine that given the level that he has managed at he would have any problems dealing with the plonkers we have. I was very sceptical when we signed MON. I like him but he has literally no experience. Birmingham and Bristol are basically do or die scenarios.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 9, 2020 19:03:12 GMT
I think we need points deductions aplenty! The only glimmer of hope is we survive and next season put together such a great side (ha!) That we earn promotion and everybody hates us for it in the EFL! Well, that's my dream If League 1 even exists next season. One thing is for certain, the 4 league structure won’t last long as half of English professional clubs enter administration.. Our only hope of getting back in the Prem!
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Post by zerps on Jul 9, 2020 19:16:28 GMT
If League 1 even exists next season. One thing is for certain, the 4 league structure won’t last long as half of English professional clubs enter administration.. Our only hope of getting back in the Prem! Every other team being wound up 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 20:21:55 GMT
We'll stay up. And we'll win on Sunday. Regardless, this season has been fucking shit and a big clear out is needed Agreed. MoN is the man for the job.
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Post by greystokie on Jul 9, 2020 20:50:55 GMT
Birmingham are the worst team in the league on current form. Bristol city had lost every single game until last night. We couldn't hand pick two better fixtures. That might mean something if it wasn't Stoke they were playing
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 9, 2020 21:08:27 GMT
Not even Bielsa could get that team of plodders playing high tempo football. It would defy science..... I don't disagree. However I can't imagine that given the level that he has managed at he would have any problems dealing with the plonkers we have. I was very sceptical when we signed MON. I like him but he has literally no experience. Birmingham and Bristol are basically do or die scenarios. On 2nd November just before Michael O Neill was appointed we were rock bottom of the league with 8 points from 14 games and a whopping 6 points from safety. If you were told then we could appoint a manager that would take us to a position with 4 games to go where we are out of the relegation zone and likely to need only 4 points from our last 4 games to stay up would you have taken it? He’s done fucking brilliantly to put us in that position from where we were and as we all know given the ingredients he’s got to work with it’s hardly bloody surprising it hasn’t been a smooth ride of blissful unblemished performances to get there is it? BM
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 21:22:01 GMT
If we stay up on the back of Wigwam getting points deducted then just relegate us. We’re clearly too shit for this division
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Post by mano00001 on Jul 9, 2020 21:27:23 GMT
I don't disagree. However I can't imagine that given the level that he has managed at he would have any problems dealing with the plonkers we have. I was very sceptical when we signed MON. I like him but he has literally no experience. Birmingham and Bristol are basically do or die scenarios. On 2nd November just before Michael O Neill was appointed we were rock bottom of the league with 8 points from 14 games and a whopping 6 points from safety. If you were told then we could appoint a manager that would take us to a position with 4 games to go where we are out of the relegation zone and likely to need only 4 points from our last 4 games to stay up would you have taken it? He’s done fucking brilliantly to put us in that position from where we were and as we all know given the ingredients he’s got to work with it’s hardly bloody surprising it hasn’t been a smooth ride of blissful unblemished performances to get there is it? BM Well said 👍
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Post by Rose City Potter on Jul 9, 2020 21:55:32 GMT
I don't disagree. However I can't imagine that given the level that he has managed at he would have any problems dealing with the plonkers we have. I was very sceptical when we signed MON. I like him but he has literally no experience. Birmingham and Bristol are basically do or die scenarios. On 2nd November just before Michael O Neill was appointed we were rock bottom of the league with 8 points from 14 games and a whopping 6 points from safety. If you were told then we could appoint a manager that would take us to a position with 4 games to go where we are out of the relegation zone and likely to need only 4 points from our last 4 games to stay up would you have taken it? BM Absolutely mate. I do like him and back him 100%. I don't think that he is the problem. However you can't put him in the same bracket as the likes of MB. I was pointing out that it was a brave /possibly daft shout given the position that we were in and his lack of league experience. There have been a few head scratchers with tactics and selection. It points towards the real problem. MON could have easily turned into another disaster. We are bloody lucky that he hasn't.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jul 9, 2020 22:20:37 GMT
I don't disagree. However I can't imagine that given the level that he has managed at he would have any problems dealing with the plonkers we have. I was very sceptical when we signed MON. I like him but he has literally no experience. Birmingham and Bristol are basically do or die scenarios. On 2nd November just before Michael O Neill was appointed we were rock bottom of the league with 8 points from 14 games and a whopping 6 points from safety. If you were told then we could appoint a manager that would take us to a position with 4 games to go where we are out of the relegation zone and likely to need only 4 points from our last 4 games to stay up would you have taken it? He’s done fucking brilliantly to put us in that position from where we were and as we all know given the ingredients he’s got to work with it’s hardly bloody surprising it hasn’t been a smooth ride of blissful unblemished performances to get there is it? BM That right there is the perspective! this cluster fuck isn't because of Michael O'Neill, he has done better than anyone could have hoped for, the reality is that you can only work with the wankers that you have, and lets be honest this squad....
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Post by sheds1862 on Jul 10, 2020 8:18:15 GMT
I don't disagree. However I can't imagine that given the level that he has managed at he would have any problems dealing with the plonkers we have. I was very sceptical when we signed MON. I like him but he has literally no experience. Birmingham and Bristol are basically do or die scenarios. On 2nd November just before Michael O Neill was appointed we were rock bottom of the league with 8 points from 14 games and a whopping 6 points from safety. If you were told then we could appoint a manager that would take us to a position with 4 games to go where we are out of the relegation zone and likely to need only 4 points from our last 4 games to stay up would you have taken it? He’s done fucking brilliantly to put us in that position from where we were and as we all know given the ingredients he’s got to work with it’s hardly bloody surprising it hasn’t been a smooth ride of blissful unblemished performances to get there is it? BM I agree with nearly all of your post BM. The but moment is.... 31/32 games is surely enough time to instill pride and your methods on a bunch of rag tags with one of the most expensive squads and wage bills seen at this level. I don't think 6 points is ' whopping ' with 96 to play for. We hoped, some expected , that Lambert would save us in a much harder division with many less games to play. Do I think he's done a good job, of course I do. His signings are of concern to me , big time. To keep us up is not a miracle.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 10, 2020 8:52:16 GMT
It was always likely we were going to be in this position once we had the start of 8 points from 15 games though. For us to have the huge chance of staying up we currently have is a bit of a miracle. We should still be fine. 3 points on Sunday and we'll nearly be there. I was expecting a pretty meek defeat today - Leeds can do this to anyone in this league, certainly a team as largely shit as us. You are right of course FM but it’s so utterly depressing to see how fast we’ve fallen from an established Premier League club to not now being able to field a team that doesn’t regularly embarrass itself in the nether reaches of the Championship. The last time we got relegated to the third tier was unacceptable but we didn’t then enjoy the financial riches we have now. The situation were in is utterly unacceptable and is down to complete incompetence about how the vast sums we have had have been spent. Managers come and go, players come and go yet the one employee who’s overseen all of this is still running the show! BM The only established Premiership clubs are Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and more recently Man City - Everton at a push. Virtually every other "established" Premiership club - Blackburn, Bolton, Sunderland, Wigan...the list goes on...have gone through the same as us - struggle to adapt to a tough league with over paid disinterested players and a fanbase incredulous at the situation their club is in. We will only get back into the Premiership when everyone involved with the club forgets about the 10 years in the Premiership, shows some respect for this just how hard it is to get out of this league league, gets behind the team and earns the right by battling tooth and nail for the cause. Too many of our players and too many of our fans haven't got the mindset to get us back there as yet - they think they are somehow better - or for no good reason believe they deserve better - than they actually are. We're a crap Championship side. We need to aspire to be a decent Championship side in order to have any chance of becoming a good enough Championship side to earn the right for a few more glory years.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 10, 2020 11:00:50 GMT
Christ, it's tight....
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 10, 2020 12:01:37 GMT
I don’t think I could handle this going to the last day...
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Post by march4 on Jul 10, 2020 12:06:19 GMT
I wish we could be at the games to vent our frustrations.
That will have to wait unfortunately.
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 10, 2020 14:13:34 GMT
I don’t think I could handle this going to the last day... We’d have taken that at beginning of November! BM
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