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Post by NassauDave on Jul 11, 2020 7:01:09 GMT
All of them. Utter shite.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 11, 2020 7:26:28 GMT
1 Jack Butland - sell for everyone's sake 2 Tom Edwards - sell bad attitude not that good 3 Stephen Ward - retire 4 Joe Allen - keep if we can 5 Liam Lindsay - keep may have potential 6 Danny Batth - keep ok at this level 7 Tom Ince - keep there's a player in there 8 Peter Etebo - would keep but will go 9 Sam Vokes - keep as backup 10 Benik Afobe - keep and use properly 11 James McClean - keep and clone his attitude 14 Tommy Smith - sell not very good 15 Bruno Martins Indi - sell as he wants out 16 Adam Davies - sell not very good 19 Lee Gregory - sell didn't work out 22 Sam Clucas - keep 23 Thibaud Verlinden - keep 24 Jordan Cousins - keep way better than rated on here 25 Nick Powell - keep 26 Tyrese Campbell - would keep but think he'll go 27 Badou Ndiaye - would keep but wants out 32 Adam Federici - keep as backup woefully under used 33 Lasse Sorensen - keep 37 Nathan Collins - keep 38 Ryan Woods - sell Thompson - keep Bauer - sell Tymon - sell Souttar - keep Shawcross - should retire N'Goy - keep Whiney pant pissing why oh why aren't my team as big as my ego I'm Premiership and the club don't deserve me Prima Donna fans - buy an Arsenal scarf and get rid Oh bollocks we are currently a struggling Championship side let's get behind the lads when they need us most even if they are a bit crap fans - keep
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 11, 2020 7:30:28 GMT
Smith Batth CHESTER Lindsey Indi INCE Thompson Vokes Lindsay is better than Chester says everything about the managers hopeless January
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Post by superalexneil on Jul 11, 2020 10:05:53 GMT
Be easier to name players I do want to see. Campbell and Clucas. That's it! Powell
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 11, 2020 10:49:05 GMT
All bar, Allen, McClean, Powell, Campbell. I wouldn't notice if the rest had left to be honest.
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Post by questionable on Jul 11, 2020 10:52:27 GMT
Covid 19 will be the biggest game changer the game has seen in decades, if not the biggest ever in modern history.
Clubs will have to adapt with social distancing, gates will plummet due to a number of reasons, ST sales, gate receipts, unemployment in the area, merchandise, match day catering, sponsorship, TV revenue the list is endless.
I can honestly see a number of clubs folding soon and clubs having to totally rethink their approach to day to day running of what is their business at the end of the day.
I’m stunned at the collective bunch of leeches we’ve amassed from top to bottom at the club, there’s a massive cull on the horizon no doubt and Stoke will be at the forefront trying to dig themselves out of one massive hole they’ve got themselves into with the contracts they’ve handed out to total crap and talentless players and managers
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Post by wrighter on Jul 11, 2020 10:54:30 GMT
All except Campbell, Powell, Verlinden, Allen and Collins yep, saved me writing them down + Clucas & McClean rest can f*ck off
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Post by fazza90 on Jul 11, 2020 12:32:48 GMT
It's easy to say "sell this one, release that one, he should retire" however they're all earning an absolute fortune so it's going to be difficult to get rid of them, firstly who would want to buy the ones we want to get rid of & why would they leave when they're picking up the highest wages in this division. It's absolutely scandalous the difference between the Leeds side the other night & ours when you think our players are getting paid treble the amount the Leeds players are. It's so wrong.
But anyway... REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE: Chester! Bathh! Ward! DON'T WANT TO SEE: Indi, Wimmer, Edwards, Woods, Clucas, Afobe WOULDN'T MIND SEEING BUT PROBABLY BE BEST IF THEY DID LEAVE: Davies, Lindsay, Tymon, Bauer, Clucas, Thompson, McLean, Etebo, N'Diaye,
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 11, 2020 13:19:48 GMT
Allen
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 11, 2020 13:54:18 GMT
1.sell the club to me 2. I'll take it into administration straight away, won't pay any players, they can all just go. 3.I'll sell the ground back to the coates family for £1. 4. Start again in non league with a clean slate and good wealthy owners
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jul 11, 2020 21:32:19 GMT
1.sell the club to me 2. I'll take it into administration straight away, won't pay any players, they can all just go. 3.I'll sell the ground back to the coates family for £1. 4. Start again in non league with a clean slate and good wealthy owners Similar to what a club in Glasgow did,??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 22:04:35 GMT
Nathan Collins and Nick Powell are the only 2 footballers in the whole squad these days. Would give the rest away. Nathan Collins is a terrible footballer. Sorry if this offends, but he’s dreadful.
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Post by greenhoff on Jul 11, 2020 22:08:46 GMT
I wouldn't be upset if all of them went to be honest. Has there ever been a less likeable bunch of players?
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Post by napperwainwright on Jul 11, 2020 22:16:20 GMT
I don't want to see the Crewe players next season.
Beat those Blue Nose bastards tomorrow.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 13, 2020 17:11:05 GMT
What a depressing thread; we really have gone to the dogs.
I hope MON gets all the support he deserves to ditch: 1. Those who were never good enough, try as some of them may: Wimmer, Ward, Chester, McLean, etc.
2. Those who may have been good enough but aren't any longer: Smith, Butland, Batth, Vokes, Indi, Gregory, Diouf, etc.
and most of all
3. Those that can't be bothered and/or don't want to play for us: Ince, Adobe, N'Diaye.
That leaves a rump who I'm not sure whether they can still do it, or whether we have yet to see the best of them if we get rid of the above. Some of these are talented, but are they team players: Clucas, Powell ? They do seem to be on their own ego trips.
Clearly MON has been reluctant to chance young players when engaged in a relegation battle and has preferred experience over raw talent. Maybe he will have a different approach when the relegation pressure is off. It would be nice to think MON could knit together a group of young talent around a core of experience.
Regrettably this may take a long time and we may have to be patient. Clearly there are major priorities to sort like LFB, RFB, solid dependable fit CB, putting some speed into the side; an aweful lot for one very short transfer window.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 13, 2020 19:23:52 GMT
I'd only feel sad to see Ryan go (out of sentimentality). I'd keep Allen and Clucas if we could. I hate Clucas but he's our best player and I like Allen if he's used correctly. Powell and Campbell are our best attackers, I'd keep them too.
Literally anyone else can go. I like Jack but given his inexplicable shitness over the last three years it's probably best for him and us if we parted ways.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Jul 13, 2020 20:52:35 GMT
I'd only feel sad to see Ryan go (out of sentimentality). I'd keep Allen and Clucas if we could. I hate Clucas but he's our best player and I like Allen if he's used correctly. Powell and Campbell are our best attackers, I'd keep them too. Literally anyone else can go. I like Jack but given his inexplicable shitness over the last three years it's probably best for him and us if we parted ways. I may have missed something but why do you hate clucas?
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 13, 2020 20:57:03 GMT
I'd only feel sad to see Ryan go (out of sentimentality). I'd keep Allen and Clucas if we could. I hate Clucas but he's our best player and I like Allen if he's used correctly. Powell and Campbell are our best attackers, I'd keep them too. Literally anyone else can go. I like Jack but given his inexplicable shitness over the last three years it's probably best for him and us if we parted ways. I may have missed something but why do you hate clucas? First impressions are hard to shake and the fact he bafflingly decided to shush the fans after his first goal (for absolutely no reason) tainted him for me a bit. Throw in antics such as arguing with MON, his generally arrogant demeanour, the fact he seems to be too often missing / uninterested, and I get the impression he'd happily jump ship for whatever reason he felt like. Maybe I'm being totally unfair (I am a bit of a bellend to be honest) but there we go.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 13, 2020 20:57:26 GMT
Players we need to offload are Ward, Chester, Wimmer, Woods and hopefully Badou, Indi, Butland and Gregory. The last four for reasonable fees! Unfortunately we will probably sell Etebo as well!
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Jul 13, 2020 21:01:45 GMT
I may have missed something but why do you hate clucas? First impressions are hard to shake and the fact he bafflingly decided to shush the fans after his first goal (for absolutely no reason) tainted him for me a bit. Throw in antics such as arguing with MON, his generally arrogant demeanour, the fact he seems to be too often missing / uninterested, and I get the impression he'd happily jump ship for whatever reason he felt like. Maybe I'm being totally unfair (I am a bit of a bellend to be honest) but there we go. At least you’re honest 😂 Yeh he does have a bit of that about him, talented player though, and if he didn’t have some faults he wouldn’t be here
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 21:03:31 GMT
Players we need to offload are Ward, Chester, Wimmer, Woods and hopefully Badou, Indi, Butland and Gregory. The last four for reasonable fees! Unfortunately we will probably sell Etebo as well! Isn't Chester on loan so no probs there. Agree with the rest
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Post by TheProletarian on Jul 13, 2020 21:24:00 GMT
Ince Chester Martins Indi Gregory Lindsay
Players that need to step up to stick around:
Batth Cousins Vokes
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Post by TheProletarian on Jul 13, 2020 21:25:25 GMT
I'd keep: Collins Souttar Powell Edwards Campbell The rest can go. Allen? Clucas? McClean?
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Post by TheProletarian on Jul 13, 2020 21:26:22 GMT
1 Jack Butland - sell for everyone's sake 2 Tom Edwards - sell bad attitude not that good 3 Stephen Ward - retire 4 Joe Allen - keep if we can 5 Liam Lindsay - keep may have potential 6 Danny Batth - keep ok at this level 7 Tom Ince - keep there's a player in there 8 Peter Etebo - would keep but will go 9 Sam Vokes - keep as backup 10 Benik Afobe - keep and use properly 11 James McClean - keep and clone his attitude 14 Tommy Smith - sell not very good 15 Bruno Martins Indi - sell as he wants out 16 Adam Davies - sell not very good 19 Lee Gregory - sell didn't work out 22 Sam Clucas - keep 23 Thibaud Verlinden - keep 24 Jordan Cousins - keep way better than rated on here 25 Nick Powell - keep 26 Tyrese Campbell - would keep but think he'll go 27 Badou Ndiaye - would keep but wants out 32 Adam Federici - keep as backup woefully under used 33 Lasse Sorensen - keep 37 Nathan Collins - keep 38 Ryan Woods - sell Thompson - keep Bauer - sell Tymon - sell Souttar - keep Shawcross - should retire N'Goy - keep Whiney pant pissing why oh why aren't my team as big as my ego I'm Premiership and the club don't deserve me Prima Donna fans - buy an Arsenal scarf and get rid Oh bollocks we are currently a struggling Championship side let's get behind the lads when they need us most even if they are a bit crap fans - keep Bit Harsh
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Post by eddy on Jul 13, 2020 21:47:05 GMT
Happy to let most of the older fuckers go, use whatever money we can cobble together from their sales to add one or two good quality pros to build around a young squad next year. Probably spend most of it on fullbacks. Taking old pros on their way out and scraps from fellow struggling Championship sides obviously hasn't worked - wouldn't mind a few seasons focused on bringing the best out of the younguns we have. Ideally something like ----------Bursik/New 1st team GK------------ Edwards--Collins---Ryan/New CB (Is Souttar anywhere near?)---New LB ------Clucas-----Sorensen/Allen-------- Verlinden-------Powell--------New LW ---------------Campbell--------------
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Post by ethers26 on Jul 13, 2020 21:50:46 GMT
Everyone but
Campbell Allen Clucas Powell Verlinden Lasse
Nobody else has stood out for months, and we need a complete rebuild ASAP.
McClean and Vokes unlucky but not good enough for where we need to be.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 14, 2020 6:25:36 GMT
Players we need to offload are Ward, Chester, Wimmer, Woods and hopefully Badou, Indi, Butland and Gregory. The last four for reasonable fees! Unfortunately we will probably sell Etebo as well! Isn't Chester on loan so no probs there. Agree with the rest If we offer him a contract it will be up to him as he has no club when his current contract is up. I really hope we won't sign him!
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 14, 2020 7:18:16 GMT
First impressions are hard to shake and the fact he bafflingly decided to shush the fans after his first goal (for absolutely no reason) tainted him for me a bit. Throw in antics such as arguing with MON, his generally arrogant demeanour, the fact he seems to be too often missing / uninterested, and I get the impression he'd happily jump ship for whatever reason he felt like. Maybe I'm being totally unfair (I am a bit of a bellend to be honest) but there we go. At least you’re honest 😂 Yeh he does have a bit of that about him, talented player though, and if he didn’t have some faults he wouldn’t be here I still find it hard to forgive him for stamping on a fellow professional. Nasty.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Jul 14, 2020 7:29:01 GMT
At least you’re honest 😂 Yeh he does have a bit of that about him, talented player though, and if he didn’t have some faults he wouldn’t be here I still find it hard to forgive him for stamping on a fellow professional. Nasty. Yeh just had another looking at that he clearly has what could be loosely called temperament issues. We need to send him to a therapist. Although I don’t remember many footballers changing when they’re like that
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Post by elystokie on Jul 14, 2020 7:51:31 GMT
Everyone but Campbell Allen Clucas Powell Verlinden Lasse Nobody else has stood out for months, and we need a complete rebuild ASAP. McClean and Vokes unlucky but not good enough for where we need to be. I'm on pretty much the same page. Although I'd also be tempted to keep hold of Cousins and Batth (got to lose a t out of his surname tho, it's too confusing) Maybe Souttar and Collins, don't think they'll be expensive wage wise and one of them could turn out to be a gem imo.
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