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Post by mrcoke on Jul 5, 2020 15:49:03 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 5, 2020 15:51:53 GMT
No tinkering and going back to Vokes all on his own with no support
Just go for it, we’ve got the personnel to worry them not be shit scared of them
Same team as yesterday
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 5, 2020 15:52:31 GMT
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Post by liathroid on Jul 5, 2020 15:52:38 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 5, 2020 15:52:45 GMT
No tinkering and going back to Vokes all on his own with no support Just go for it, we’ve got the personnel to worry them not be shit scared of them Same team as yesterday Id do that mate also but I’ll be amazed if he does
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Post by Davef on Jul 5, 2020 15:58:57 GMT
We're the final game of the round this week so I think MON's thinking will be based entirely on what happens on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Tuesday: Brentford v Charlton Luton v Barnsley Reading v Huddersfield
Wednesday: Millwall v Middlesbrough Bristol City v Hull Wigan v QPR
If results go in our favour, a defeat at Leeds wouldn't be a disaster as long as we don't leak goals.
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Post by neddy on Jul 5, 2020 16:00:29 GMT
Will he bring Ryan back in?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 5, 2020 16:06:40 GMT
No tinkering and going back to Vokes all on his own with no support Just go for it, we’ve got the personnel to worry them not be shit scared of them Same team as yesterday Agree, no need to change the team or system.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 5, 2020 16:17:30 GMT
Hopefully no injury worries going into the game. If it ain’t broke n all that...
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Post by josefr on Jul 5, 2020 16:21:20 GMT
Could have the Birmingham game on sunday in mind though.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 5, 2020 16:40:34 GMT
Will he bring Ryan back in? No
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 5, 2020 16:45:47 GMT
Could have the Birmingham game on sunday in mind though. Not sure it’s a good time to rest players thinking the next game is more winnable. I remember Mr Hughes trying that one and it backfiring badly. Just get the points ASAP would be my message.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 5, 2020 16:46:32 GMT
Oh I do love taking the piss out of leeds and their triple training sessions a day and doing the headless chicken press. Think that fat manager of their's used to watch mike reid when he was younger. Runaround 😁
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Post by marylandstoke on Jul 5, 2020 16:49:58 GMT
No tinkering and going back to Vokes all on his own with no support Just go for it, we’ve got the personnel to worry them not be shit scared of them Same team as yesterday Agree, no need to change the team or system. Shirley if there was ever a case in our recent, tumultuous, seasons there was a case for picking the same players and just asking them to do that again....
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Post by loosestools on Jul 5, 2020 16:54:54 GMT
I was there, couldn't believe that Bremner goal, we all went berserk. What a day.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 17:25:03 GMT
Agree, no need to change the team or system. Shirley if there was ever a case in our recent, tumultuous, seasons there was a case for picking the same players and just asking them to do that again.... Except there's a world of difference between Barnsley at home and Leeds away. That notwithstanding I would also select the same team, but I would tweak the tactics considerably. Campbell will be even more our key player, but Leeds know what a tremendous player he is, so will afford him little freedom, and they will probably kick Powell every chance they get. He might do himself a favour and drop deeper, not to defend, but to make himself available in areas which are less congested and invite fewer fouls. Someone like Cousins will have to raise his game, and Clucas will have to sit much deeper alongside him. Batth and Chester were barely tested yesterday; they sure will be on Thursday against forwards that tend to stray from the middle. They might need an extra defender, or at least the two deep sitting midfielders to cover up for their many faults. Or Martins Indi should move inside to his more natural leftsided central defender, with McClean dropping deeper, to sit close to and alongside Clucas, who's a better defensive player. Pablo Hernandes is their key player; he is getting on a bit and lately they've lately been placing him on the bench to come on as a late sub as not to tire him completely. I wouldn't mind if they left him out vs us altogether! They played him from the go in their most recent game, which might work in our favour. But they have many another fine players. I hope O'Neill will have done his best Bielsa homework, i.e. will have spied on them. It's not just the splendid players it's the key movements which have been drilled to perfection in training, which in Leeds is no holiday camp that's for sure.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 5, 2020 17:26:43 GMT
Shirley if there was ever a case in our recent, tumultuous, seasons there was a case for picking the same players and just asking them to do that again.... Except there's a world of difference between Barnsley at home and Leeds away. That notwithstanding I would also select the same team, but I would tweak the tactics considerably. Campbell will be even more our key player, but Leeds know what a tremendous player he is, so will afford him little freedom, and they will probably kick Powell every chance they get. He might do himself a favour and drop deeper, not to defend, but to make himself available in areas which are less congested and invite fewer fouls. Someone like Cousins will have to raise his game, and Clucas will have to sit much deeper alongside him. Batth and Chester were barely tested yesterday; they sure will be on Thursday against forwards that tend to stray from the middle. They might need an extra defender, or at least the two deep sitting midfielders to cover up for their many faults. Or Martins Indi should move inside to his more natural leftsided central defender, with McClean dropping deeper, to sit close to and alongside Clucas, who's a better defensive player. Pablo Hernandes is their key player; he is getting on a bit and lately they've lately been placing him on the bench to come on as a late sub as not to tire him completely. I wouldn't mind if they left him out vs us altogether! They played him from the go in their most recent game, which might work in our favour. But they many another fine players. I hope O'Neill will have done his best Bielsa homework, i.e. will have spied on them. It's not just the splendid players it's the key movements which have been drilled to perfection in training, which in Leeds is no holiday camp that's for sure. Agree with all of that👍🏻
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 17:32:25 GMT
Start with the same team as against Barnsley. Vokes and Campbell together. We need to try and take the lead early again
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 5, 2020 17:33:19 GMT
No tinkering and going back to Vokes all on his own with no support Just go for it, we’ve got the personnel to worry them not be shit scared of them Same team as yesterday Agree, no need to change the team or system. I think that Martin O'Neil will want a strong and fresh side out against Birmingham three days after the Leeds fixture so I think you are wrong when you say don't change the team. For example Tyrese was out on his legs against Barnsley so I do not think MON will start him on Thursday. He'll want him fresh for the game against Brum. If Shawcross is considered fit enough I think MON will definitely start with him as well. Finally I think he might also consider making a change at left back again. We are playing five important games to save our season so there is every need to look to the fitness and sharpness of his players.
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Post by neddy on Jul 5, 2020 17:43:15 GMT
We certainly don’t need any more injuries or suspensions!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 5, 2020 17:45:22 GMT
Agree, no need to change the team or system. I think that Martin O'Neil will want a strong and fresh side out against Birmingham three days after the Leeds fixture so I think you are wrong when you say don't change the team. For example Tyrese was out on his legs against Barnsley so I do not think MON will start him on Thursday. He'll want him fresh for the game against Brum. If Shawcross is considered fit enough I think MON will definitely start with him as well. Finally I think he might also consider making a change at left back again. We are playing five important games to save our season so there is every need to look to the fitness and sharpness of his players. I don’t think Martin O’Neill gives a monkeys what Stoke are up to😏
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Post by scfc1863 on Jul 5, 2020 17:52:55 GMT
I think we've found the successful equation, the four 'R's' .
The Right players, in the Right positions, with the Right attitude = the Right result.
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Post by woodstein on Jul 5, 2020 20:46:53 GMT
Na then lads Luton drew with em' mind you then look at them yesterday! 😂
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 5, 2020 21:40:41 GMT
Be ecstatic with a draw and get out of elland road injury free.
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Post by ab61 on Jul 5, 2020 22:48:49 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 6, 2020 5:34:07 GMT
Agree, no need to change the team or system. I think that Martin O'Neil will want a strong and fresh side out against Birmingham three days after the Leeds fixture so I think you are wrong when you say don't change the team. For example Tyrese was out on his legs against Barnsley so I do not think MON will start him on Thursday. He'll want him fresh for the game against Brum. If Shawcross is considered fit enough I think MON will definitely start with him as well. Finally I think he might also consider making a change at left back again. We are playing five important games to save our season so there is every need to look to the fitness and sharpness of his players. Yeah let’s rest players with 5 games to go, seriously!!!....what happens if we lose to Birmingham also? Mark Hughes tried that one at Chelsea a few years ago to target the Newcastle game and have a guess what happened It would be madness
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 6, 2020 5:38:26 GMT
I think that Martin O'Neil will want a strong and fresh side out against Birmingham three days after the Leeds fixture so I think you are wrong when you say don't change the team. For example Tyrese was out on his legs against Barnsley so I do not think MON will start him on Thursday. He'll want him fresh for the game against Brum. If Shawcross is considered fit enough I think MON will definitely start with him as well. Finally I think he might also consider making a change at left back again. We are playing five important games to save our season so there is every need to look to the fitness and sharpness of his players. Yeah let’s rest players with 5 games up go, seriously!!!....what happens if we lose to Birmingham also? Mark Hughes tried that one at Chelsea a few years ago to target the Newcastle game and have a guess what happened It would be madness And totally unnecessary
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 6, 2020 5:58:32 GMT
We're the final game of the round this week so I think MON's thinking will be based entirely on what happens on Tuesday and Wednesday. Tuesday: Brentford v Charlton Luton v Barnsley Reading v Huddersfield Wednesday: Millwall v Middlesbrough Bristol City v Hull Wigan v QPR If results go in our favour, a defeat at Leeds wouldn't be a disaster as long as we don't leak goals. A defeat is definitely not a disaster so long as we don’t disgrace ourselves and carry it over to Birmingham. Every point a massive now so a draw would be great.
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 6, 2020 8:02:52 GMT
I think that Martin O'Neil will want a strong and fresh side out against Birmingham three days after the Leeds fixture so I think you are wrong when you say don't change the team. For example Tyrese was out on his legs against Barnsley so I do not think MON will start him on Thursday. He'll want him fresh for the game against Brum. If Shawcross is considered fit enough I think MON will definitely start with him as well. Finally I think he might also consider making a change at left back again. We are playing five important games to save our season so there is every need to look to the fitness and sharpness of his players. Yeah let’s rest players with 5 games to go, seriously!!!....what happens if we lose to Birmingham also? Mark Hughes tried that one at Chelsea a few years ago to target the Newcastle game and have a guess what happened It would be madness There were times in my youth when I played at a good level four times in a weekend so don't preach to me about players needing resting. My post is concerned with what MON will do this week!
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 6, 2020 8:23:51 GMT
I’m viewing this one as an exercise in goal difference damage limitation.
I’d be astonished if we got any kind of positive result up there.
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