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Post by citynickscfc on Jul 9, 2020 18:14:31 GMT
Has there ever been a more unlikeable bunch in our history? This is a common question we seem to be saying every season for the last 3 or 4 Surprised we still have a fan base there's a post of this almost every game. Even when we win
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Post by werrington on Jul 9, 2020 18:15:34 GMT
Anybody who wants O’Neill out needs sectioning but he’s not immune from criticism His tactics at times are utterly inane and mind boggling....that second half had it all in a nutshell True However, there's times when the players on the pitch can't do the basics, can't track a runner, get done by a simple give and go, can't keep possession. He's nothing to work with He could of tightened it all up or he could of attacked, we did neither, and just capitulated......that second half display of no attacking intent and calamity defending continued unabated despite it being pretty obvious what was happening
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Post by Goonie on Jul 9, 2020 18:16:53 GMT
Has there ever been a more unlikeable bunch in our history? This is a common question we seem to be saying every season for the last 3 or 4 Surprised we still have a fan base there's a post of this almost every game. Even when we win I'd love to know if any of them are mates - it's like they just know each other ghrough work It's so dispiriting- to think 5 years ago we were getting bored with mid-table!
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Post by andystokey on Jul 9, 2020 18:18:18 GMT
I just want to see the back of every player bar Tyrese and Collins. When they've all gone we can have a discussion about managers.
The most unlikable bunch of cnuts I've ever seen play for Stoke to a man.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 9, 2020 18:18:24 GMT
True However, there's times when the players on the pitch can't do the basics, can't track a runner, get done by a simple give and go, can't keep possession. He's nothing to work with I’m not calling for his head but he’ll never get us promoted. Staying in the championship is going to be an achievement with what we have.Talking about promotion is pure fantasy.
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Post by hammercricket on Jul 9, 2020 18:19:02 GMT
He is what he is, steady eddie british manager but not very inspiring. If we stay up then it should be thanks but no thanks. Leeds and Albion have big name continental managers who are scholars of the game. Their teams play lovely football and they’re 1st and 2nd for a reason. Then there’s Thomas Frank at Brentford, again lovely football and in 3rd spot. Show some ambition, go and pay for a top manager and get back in the prem in style. Good points. West Ham should never have got rid of Bilic. We were superb that season he took us to 7th. Then the board messed with transfers and he got the blame. You were really poor tonight, really poor, horrible to watch and and don’t think O’Neil is the answer for you guys, bit like Moyes isn’t for us!
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Post by zerps on Jul 9, 2020 18:20:44 GMT
The players respect him up to a point. When the going gets tough they stop trying.
He must be fucking livid. I hope he goes full Tp James Beattie on a few of them tonight..
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Post by werrington on Jul 9, 2020 18:23:45 GMT
He’s honest enough though
He doesn’t defend the players for defending sake
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Post by citynickscfc on Jul 9, 2020 18:30:05 GMT
Has there ever been a more unlikeable bunch in our history? This is a common question we seem to be saying every season for the last 3 or 4 Surprised we still have a fan base there's a post of this almost every game. Even when we win
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Jul 9, 2020 18:35:21 GMT
I’m not calling for his head but he’ll never get us promoted. Staying in the championship is going to be an achievement with what we have.Talking about promotion is pure fantasy. If he does keep us up he’s done a great job. But he won’t take us top 6.
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 9, 2020 18:51:47 GMT
Anybody who wants O’Neill out needs sectioning but he’s not immune from criticism His tactics at times are utterly inane and mind boggling....that second half had it all in a nutshell Surely that is a bit of a contradiction? He's not experienced in this environment. He's not managed big names before. And.. in my opinion he's out of his depth and not very good.
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Post by walton corner on Jul 9, 2020 19:51:35 GMT
You have made Sunday massive ....like Hughes against Newcastle...lose against brum and resign
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 19:52:43 GMT
This board 😆
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 19:52:49 GMT
Wow.... I can see a shiny bin getting some much needed shit
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Post by liathroid on Jul 9, 2020 19:54:45 GMT
funny only thing he done wrong was to take Collins off ,after that he rested players
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 9, 2020 19:55:44 GMT
You have made Sunday massive ....like Hughes against Newcastle...lose against brum and resign Don't be that twat.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 9, 2020 19:57:41 GMT
You have made Sunday massive ....like Hughes against Newcastle...lose against brum and resign Don't be that twat. Too late!
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Post by innocentbystander on Jul 9, 2020 21:12:29 GMT
Staying in the championship is going to be an achievement with what we have.Talking about promotion is pure fantasy. If he does keep us up he’s done a great job. But he won’t take us top 6. Agreed. Even if he keeps us up I can't see him masterminding a promotion.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 9, 2020 21:24:42 GMT
MON is the right man for the job.
Look at where we were when he took over. He’s a good manager. He inherited a shambles and done very well in at least giving us a chance of staying up.
The players have let him down badly.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jul 9, 2020 21:28:52 GMT
If he does keep us up he’s done a great job. But he won’t take us top 6. Agreed. Even if he keeps us up I can't see him masterminding a promotion. This is a full rebuild, it will take at least 3 seasons.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jul 9, 2020 21:36:08 GMT
With out Mon we would be still bottom of the league with a - 40 GD.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jul 9, 2020 21:47:44 GMT
Lose to Birmingham and it's protest time. Not against the manager but Scholes and the players. They need to hear the anger. It's not the right time yet while we still have a chance. But lose to Birmingham and we're effectively gone and that will be the time to tear into them.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 9, 2020 23:13:56 GMT
MON is the right man for the job. Look at where we were when he took over. He’s a good manager. He inherited a shambles and done very well in at least giving us a chance of staying up. The players have let him down badly. He's doing his very best to completely fuck over whatever good work he did to get out of the bottom three, its been one good game in five, that one good game used the set up we know works the other four were moronic, there's only one person to blame for that.
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Post by hotterpotter on Jul 10, 2020 6:16:37 GMT
What truly decent manager would come to Stoke? So much dead wood to shift before any real progress can be made. We always say a Manager needs two or three seasons to build their own version of a team, but we seem to be in that downward spiral where if we give a Manager long enough to do that, it will be too late for it to matter as we'll be in the conference.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 10, 2020 6:19:16 GMT
MON is the right man for the job. Look at where we were when he took over. He’s a good manager. He inherited a shambles and done very well in at least giving us a chance of staying up. The players have let him down badly. He's doing his very best to completely fuck over whatever good work he did to get out of the bottom three, its been one good game in five, that one good game used the set up we know works the other three were moronic, there's only one person to blame for that. Agree and whilst acknowledging I’ve the history of thinking he was a poor appointment , I’d let him go a The end of the season regardless , we are his learning curve and can’t afford it , his transfer experience which was nil on appointment is now appalling , his tactical understanding exposed regularly see QPR , Leeds , Wigan , Derby , , and the low hanging fruit of improvement post jones has now been replaced with accelerating regression . However only one departure will see any real improvement and that’s not him indeed for the crimes committed against stoke city I’m not sure if I’d want Scholes fired or demoted to a long term stint as Pulis dressing room gimp.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 6:19:18 GMT
What truly decent manager would come to Stoke? So much dead wood to shift before any real progress can be made. We always say a Manager needs two or three seasons to build their own version of a team, but we seem to be in that downward spiral where if we give a Manager long enough to do that, it will be too late for it to matter as we'll be in the conference. With this disjointed squad of overpaid shitehawks you’d be mad to come unless it was purely for a pay day..,,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 6:31:15 GMT
He's doing his very best to completely fuck over whatever good work he did to get out of the bottom three, its been one good game in five, that one good game used the set up we know works the other three were moronic, there's only one person to blame for that. Agree and whilst acknowledging I’ve the history of thinking he was a poor appointment , I’d let him go a The end of the season regardless , we are his learning curve and can’t afford it , his transfer experience which was nil on appointment is now appalling , his tactical understanding exposed regularly see QPR , Leeds , Wigan , Derby , , and the low hanging fruit of improvement post jones has now been replaced with accelerating regression . However only one departure will see any real improvement and that’s not him indeed for the crimes committed against stoke city I’m not sure if I’d want Scholes fired or demoted to a long term stint as Pulis dressing room gimp. The last three managers, including O'Neill have all been on a learning curve. Rowett. Never spent big money. Jones. Never managed at this level. O'Neill. Never managed domestically in this country. The first two walked away and said they'd learned massively from their time here. It's an odd way for a bunch of bookies to run a club. Pay big money and take risks.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 10, 2020 6:48:40 GMT
Staying in the championship is going to be an achievement with what we have.Talking about promotion is pure fantasy. If he does keep us up he’s done a great job. But he won’t take us top 6. Not with this squad of players he won't.He needs to be given time to rebuild this squad from top to bottom, whether that will be allowed to happen or if he has the appetite to do it I don't know. Pep Guadiola couldn't get a tune out of this lot,they simply aren't good enough.
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Post by boothenconvert on Jul 10, 2020 7:30:45 GMT
It’s not MON’s fault. It’s the playing personnel we have who simply aren’t good enough. I lay that blame at previous managers and TS. He’s the one who needs to go. As do these piss poor idiots who can’t pull anything out of the bag.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 10, 2020 7:45:45 GMT
If he does keep us up he’s done a great job. But he won’t take us top 6. Agreed. Even if he keeps us up I can't see him masterminding a promotion. Not in the short term Realistic expectations need to be accepted by players and fans I think that MON does have this approach, must have considered the odds of relegation when he took the post, confident that he can improve us
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