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Post by oldschool on Jul 2, 2020 7:50:55 GMT
This weekend I was told something that I batted of as pure bullshit. However the more I think about at, could it be true? The way he was cast out, when he was a Potter is baffling.
It is that the reason he was pushed a-side is because he parked in the Chairmans (Lord Peter) parking spot and refused to move his car. Has anyone else heard this?
This surely has to be complete bullshit, however, stranger things have happened! If it is true however, this ought to cast a major shadow on us as a club, as we haven't had a pissing left-back since! Actually, we didnt have one before he arrived either!
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Post by callas12 on Jul 2, 2020 7:53:42 GMT
This weekend I was told something that I batted of as pure bullshit. However the more I think about at, could it be true? The way he was cast out, when he was a Potter is baffling. It is that the reason he was pushed a-side is because he parked in the Chairmans (Lord Peter) parking spot and refused to move his car. Has anyone else heard this? This surely has to be complete bullshit, however, stranger things have happened! If it is true however, this ought to cast a major shadow on us as a club, as we haven't had a pissing left-back since! Actually, we didnt have one before he arrived either! Sure it was Peter Crouch who alluded to this incident, can't remember if it was in his book or on an interview but yes this is meant to have happened. The story went that Pieters parked his car in Mr Coates parking spot & that someone was tasked with asking Pieters to shift it as Peter Coates wasnt keen on making an issue about it himself. It was viewed as a lack of respect incident as Pieters would of sure known not to park in the bosses spot! Guess it sounds petty looking at it but perhaps it showed the true disrespect feeling that was starting to work through the club at the time. |
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Post by neddy on Jul 2, 2020 7:55:47 GMT
This weekend I was told something that I batted of as pure bullshit. However the more I think about at, could it be true? The way he was cast out, when he was a Potter is baffling. It is that the reason he was pushed a-side is because he parked in the Chairmans (Lord Peter) parking spot and refused to move his car. Has anyone else heard this? This surely has to be complete bullshit, however, stranger things have happened! If it is true however, this ought to cast a major shadow on us as a club, as we haven't had a pissing left-back since! Actually, we didnt have one before he arrived either! Sure it was Peter Crouch who alluded to this incident, can't remember if it was in his book or on an interview but yes this is meant to have happened. I think I read about that but nothing to say it caused his move! Thought Jones wanted him gone? |
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 2, 2020 7:56:11 GMT
This is detailed in crouchies book so yes it is true
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Post by Davef on Jul 2, 2020 7:57:06 GMT
All that does is reinforce the arrogance and disrespect of the player. He was also dropped for socialising the night before a game.
The fact that we can't sign a decent left back (or right back for that matter) is a completely different argument.
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 2, 2020 7:57:12 GMT
Sure it was Peter Crouch who alluded to this incident, can't remember if it was in his book or on an interview but yes this is meant to have happened. I think I read about that but nothing to say it caused his move! Thought Jones wanted him gone? Crouch questioned the respect that players had for the club if they were prepared to do this |
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Post by Veritas on Jul 2, 2020 7:59:59 GMT
I think I read about that but nothing to say it caused his move! Thought Jones wanted him gone? Crouch questioned the respect that players had for the club if they were prepared to do this And Crouch is right in questioning this, it may seem a trivial incident by itself but it suggests an arrogance and sense of entitlement that has been displayed by too many of our players for much too long. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 2, 2020 8:31:07 GMT
Glad we rid ourselves of all that self entitled, selfish, poisionous bullshit from the club........  |
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Post by miggoscfc on Jul 2, 2020 8:35:46 GMT
In Crouchs book, did it on numerous occasions and his behaviour amongst others became erratic under Hughes to the point where no one was in control as MH turned a blind eye.
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Post by oldschool on Jul 2, 2020 8:41:43 GMT
I dont know how i feel about this. I get the respect side of things, but that side of the pitch has been absolutely fucking appalling. Would you take relegation for that? How many points have we lost from that side this season?
He's gone to Burnley why Dyche isn't a mug. So maybe it would of took a stronger man manager to control him?
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Post by Veritas on Jul 2, 2020 8:46:53 GMT
I dont know how i feel about this. I get the respect side of things, but that side of the pitch has been absolutely fucking appalling. Would you take relegation for that? How many points have we lost from that side this season? He's gone to Burnley why Dyche isn't a mug. So maybe it would of took a stronger man manager to control him? The mistake was not in getting rid it was in not effectively replacing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 9:20:11 GMT
At least we now know why we don't sign left backs. It's an instruction from the top.
"Don't sign a left back, they're all trouble. Park their cars anywhere them lot."
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 2, 2020 10:26:37 GMT
I dont know how i feel about this. I get the respect side of things, but that side of the pitch has been absolutely fucking appalling. Would you take relegation for that? How many points have we lost from that side this season? He's gone to Burnley why Dyche isn't a mug. So maybe it would of took a stronger man manager to control him? I didn't have a massive issue letting Pieters go, I do have issues with selling him for fucking peanuts and replacing him with James McClean and Stephen fucking Ward, not signing a decent LB will cost us relegation this season. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 10:31:35 GMT
This is detailed in crouchies book so yes it is true Well...it is true as Crouch chose to deliberate it. The actual event may differ. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 10:35:58 GMT
It's bizarre that the failure to replace Pieters is seen as potentially one of the reasons we are going down. Two years ago when we went down from the PL, Pieters' inadequate performances were in my opinion one of the reasons we lost goals, games, and points. I know some disagree but I still think so. Not the only reason, of course.
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 2, 2020 10:56:09 GMT
thats typical of most of our players they have massive egoes no pride or discipline, the money they are on compared to most championship clubs is scandalous fuck these big time charlies off and get players who will at least give all they have got. i bet Brentford players are not on harf as much as the clowns turning out for us,
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Post by blackpoolred on Jul 2, 2020 11:05:23 GMT
It's bizarre that the failure to replace Pieters is seen as potentially one of the reasons we are going down. Two years ago when we went down from the PL, Pieters' inadequate performances were in my opinion one of the reasons we lost goals, games, and points. I know some disagree but I still think so. Not the only reason, of course. All true, but Diouf was also our only viable right-back which also caused a few issues. I think it was Danny Murphy, on match of the day, that said it was an utterly bizarre situation for a club to be starting the season with their centre-forward as their preferred choice as a right-back. I'm sure Scholes and co thought there was no issue though  I mean we literally have clowns running our club from top to bottom - hence we find ourselves where we are now. Like the majority of egos in lofty positions - they look good and talk good and, apparently, that is all the matters |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 2, 2020 12:13:48 GMT
It's bizarre that the failure to replace Pieters is seen as potentially one of the reasons we are going down. Two years ago when we went down from the PL, Pieters' inadequate performances were in my opinion one of the reasons we lost goals, games, and points. I know some disagree but I still think so. Not the only reason, of course. But it was soon clear he was a decent Championship LB and to get rid and not replace him was stupid |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 12:28:13 GMT
It's bizarre that the failure to replace Pieters is seen as potentially one of the reasons we are going down. Two years ago when we went down from the PL, Pieters' inadequate performances were in my opinion one of the reasons we lost goals, games, and points. I know some disagree but I still think so. Not the only reason, of course. All true, but Diouf was also our only viable right-back which also caused a few issues. I think it was Danny Murphy, on match of the day, that said it was an utterly bizarre situation for a club to be starting the season with their centre-forward as their preferred choice as a right-back. I'm sure Scholes and co thought there was no issue though I mean we literally have clowns running our club from top to bottom - hence we find ourselves where we are now. Like the majority of egos in lofty positions - they look good and talk good and, apparently, that is all the matters I have to put my foot down and defend Hughes on this one, while also criticizing him at the same time! Around that time every manager and his dog were trying the 3-5-2/3-4-3 system and he wanted to do the same. In pre season training he had played Edwards on the one wing and Tymon on the other (Tymon may even have been bought for that purpose). Both are pacy players with a keen drive for attacking (it's their defensive abilities which are more questionable, which is bad for full backs, but okay if the team focuses on attacking wing backs). It went really well in training, so well he felt confident enough to sell Bardsley who had often been a weakness in our defense. After training camp the new system did not do so well in games. As the new season loomed, he tried other options while keeping the same format. It did make some sense, after all Pieters, being Dutch, knew all about "total football" and Hughes had seen with his own eyes how much running Diouf had done up and down the pitch, and he'd done very well as an emergency defender the season before. Then Johnson, who was his last resort, got injured, and Hughes did not have enough faith in Edwards and Tymon, so he went ahead with his plan B. It was brave but foolish. He should have kept faith with the two kids, giving them a chance to mature a little, or he should have retrained Diouf and Pieters harder. But allegedly we didn't do any defensive training, which I found hard to believe, but as it turned out may well have been true. However you can't criticise Scholes "and co". He had no say whatsoever in the team that Hughes put out. It's not his job to know whether we have a good left back or not. It's his job only to make sure the penny falls in the right place. |
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Post by musik on Jul 2, 2020 12:37:15 GMT
This weekend I was told something that I batted of as pure bullshit. However the more I think about at, could it be true? The way he was cast out, when he was a Potter is baffling. It is that the reason he was pushed a-side is because he parked in the Chairmans (Lord Peter) parking spot and refused to move his car. Has anyone else heard this? This surely has to be complete bullshit, however, stranger things have happened! If it is true however, this ought to cast a major shadow on us as a club, as we haven't had a pissing left-back since! Actually, we didnt have one before he arrived either! Surely Pieters can't be such a phuckin' moron!? |
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Post by newsteadst3 on Jul 2, 2020 12:46:43 GMT
This is detailed in crouchies book so yes it is true Which Crouch book is the best one, |
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Post by sheds1862 on Jul 2, 2020 13:07:42 GMT
I think I read about that but nothing to say it caused his move! Thought Jones wanted him gone? Crouch questioned the respect that players had for the club if they were prepared to do this But along with others as a senior pro , never had the bollocks to say it to Pieters in person. Too many like Crouch and Adam talk a good game now but why didn't they grab the bull by the fucking horns if they were so alarmed ? |
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 2, 2020 13:14:10 GMT
This is detailed in crouchies book so yes it is true Which Crouch book is the best one, Both are good but I preferred the first one, spoke more about his early days when football was a great sport to follow, youth players had to earn their stripes with no social media fuelled stories. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 13:14:37 GMT
Crouch questioned the respect that players had for the club if they were prepared to do this But along with others as a senior pro , never had the bollocks to say it to Pieters in person. Too many like Crouch and Adam talk a good game now but why didn't they grab the bull by the fucking horns if they were so alarmed ? Probably because they themselves were found lacking in other respects. Adam with his diet, or lack of, Crouch, with his exaggerated relaxed manner in training and games. And many other aspects which we won't know about until Berahino, Pieters, and Imbula publish their memoirs. The one good thing you can say about Hughes is that he, unlike some other managers, don't do his laundry in public. |
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 2, 2020 13:15:19 GMT
Crouch questioned the respect that players had for the club if they were prepared to do this But along with others as a senior pro , never had the bollocks to say it to Pieters in person. Too many like Crouch and Adam talk a good game now but why didn't they grab the bull by the fucking horns if they were so alarmed ? We dont know that it wasn't spoken about though , do we ? |
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Post by sheds1862 on Jul 2, 2020 13:16:41 GMT
But along with others as a senior pro , never had the bollocks to say it to Pieters in person. Too many like Crouch and Adam talk a good game now but why didn't they grab the bull by the fucking horns if they were so alarmed ? We dont know that it wasn't spoken about though , do we ? Nothing in his book suggested that. |
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 2, 2020 13:22:54 GMT
We dont know that it wasn't spoken about though , do we ? Nothing in his book suggested that. There would be no sensationalism in telling the story and then saying it was resolved by a conversation. |
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Jul 2, 2020 14:19:57 GMT
Surely if Shawcross is such a good leader, as is always claimed, he should have been the one to frogmarch Pieters to his car to shift it! (If there is a word of truth in it!)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 14:21:36 GMT
Surely if Shawcross is such a good leader, as is always claimed, he should have been the one to frogmarch Pieters to his car to shift it! (If there is a word of truth in it!) He was probably lying naked on the treatment table. Not a good time to come out and set an example. |
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Jul 2, 2020 14:23:37 GMT
Surely if Shawcross is such a good leader, as is always claimed, he should have been the one to frogmarch Pieters to his car to shift it! (If there is a word of truth in it!) He was probably lying naked on the treatment table. Not a good time to come out and set an example. Fair comment. |
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