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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 2, 2020 15:45:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 15:49:52 GMT
You'd have to guess that would be Hull. Was thinking Charlton as rumoured to be in trouble. as for Wigan, the new investors had so long to pay a sum of money it seemed and were in deep financial trouble before lock down so can't see reason for an appeal.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 2, 2020 15:53:49 GMT
Mel Morris was seeking investment at Derby just before the lockdown and it failed to materialise so it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re not in trouble also
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Jul 2, 2020 16:02:05 GMT
If several clubs were thinking about entering administration, now would be the time to do it. If multiple clubs get a -12 points hit then it'd effectively be a safe way of disposing of a points deduction for all but the bottom three of them.
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Post by lordb on Jul 2, 2020 16:13:13 GMT
From a selfish short term SCFC view we 'want' loads of clubs going into admin with points deduction as long as it's not us however taking a broader view football finances are a car crash the big pile of ££££ at the Premier League (& predominantly at the top end of that) inevitably sees Championship clubs going way beyond their means chasing that £££
Those running the PL might believe that the public are only interested in the big clubs but that's simply not true millions of people watch football outside the p/l
in other countries after the second tier it's regional, semi pro & low standard In England we have 5 leagues of full time pro clubs
it's the heartbeat of football in this country, if it goes south then everyone loses including the big boys
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Post by Goonie on Jul 2, 2020 16:31:27 GMT
Just need 2 more to go into administration and we're safe!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 16:42:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 16:54:55 GMT
From a selfish short term SCFC view we 'want' loads of clubs going into admin with points deduction as long as it's not us however taking a broader view football finances are a car crash the big pile of ££££ at the Premier League (& predominantly at the top end of that) inevitably sees Championship clubs going way beyond their means chasing that £££ Those running the PL might believe that the public are only interested in the big clubs but that's simply not true millions of people watch football outside the p/l in other countries after the second tier it's regional, semi pro & low standard In England we have 5 leagues of full time pro clubs it's the heartbeat of football in this country, if it goes south then everyone loses including the big boys To be fair is bad financial management that leads a club into admin. Overspending and not plannimg ahead , hard to believe that Birmingham were relying on us selling Jack Butland whilst still bringing players in.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 2, 2020 17:04:16 GMT
Lol 🤣 it's the only thing I see saving us!
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Post by raythesailor on Jul 2, 2020 17:09:22 GMT
Is it fair if a club not paying its players are playing clubs that we are fighting against to avoid relegation ?
Something not rite here. Players not being paid are not going to break into a sweat.
Having said that we are presumably paying ours and they aren’t doing much. 🤪⚓️
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 2, 2020 17:10:27 GMT
If by some miracle we stay up due to points deductions for other clubs, does anyone have any confidence that our visionary and competent hierarchy in the club will make the most of the gift horse presented to them and see us grasp the chance to make the club something special in years to come? Personally, I think the opportunity would be wasted on them and it would only be delaying the inevitable by a few years. Ultimately, they couldn’t run a bath.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 17:18:18 GMT
If by some miracle we stay up due to points deductions for other clubs, does anyone have any confidence that our visionary and competent hierarchy in the club will make the most of the gift horse presented to them and see us grasp the chance to make the club something special in years to come? Personally, I think the opportunity would be wasted on them and it would only be delaying the inevitable by a few years. Ultimately, they couldn’t run a bath. Going into next season we could be in a far better position than most of the league , so yes. To be fair the hierarchy has done it before but we need a serious clear out
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 17:21:28 GMT
You'd have to guess that would be Hull. Was thinking Charlton as rumoured to be in trouble. as for Wigan, the new investors had so long to pay a sum of money it seemed and were in deep financial trouble before lock down so can't see reason for an appeal. Forgot about them completely. Just assumed their new takeover had gone through and they were dreaming of Curbishley MkII with Bowyer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 17:28:15 GMT
Was thinking Charlton as rumoured to be in trouble. as for Wigan, the new investors had so long to pay a sum of money it seemed and were in deep financial trouble before lock down so can't see reason for an appeal. Forgot about them completely. Just assumed their new takeover had gone through and they were dreaming of Curbishley MkII with Bowyer. Nimer was supposed to put in funds wasn't he to appease the EFL but didn't and then agreed to sell to a consortium recently. A bit like the Bury scenario. Apparently on several instances he ignored a deadline to pay promised investment. Anyone know the latest on this or are the new consortium now confirmed as looked like stalling tactics
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Post by mano00001 on Jul 2, 2020 18:49:58 GMT
I highly doubt they are going to get a points deduction
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jul 2, 2020 19:00:46 GMT
If by some miracle we stay up due to points deductions for other clubs, does anyone have any confidence that our visionary and competent hierarchy in the club will make the most of the gift horse presented to them and see us grasp the chance to make the club something special in years to come? Personally, I think the opportunity would be wasted on them and it would only be delaying the inevitable by a few years. Ultimately, they couldn’t run a bath. Going into next season we could be in a far better position than most of the league , so yes. To be fair the hierarchy has done it before but we need a serious clear out Only in a better position if the recruitment is sorted out and there is no sign of that
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 2, 2020 20:39:18 GMT
There’s a rumour doing the rounds on Twitter that the new Wigan owners have purposely let the club go into admin due to ‘gambling interests’ in the Philippines.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out if there’s any truth in it.
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Post by cushyscfc on Jul 2, 2020 20:54:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 20:55:40 GMT
There’s a rumour doing the rounds on Twitter that the new Wigan owners have purposely let the club go into admin due to ‘gambling interests’ in the Philippines. Will be interesting to see how this plays out if there’s any truth in it. That would be absolutely outrageous if it's true, therefore I'm calling BS on that rumour. That can't be true in a million years.
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Post by mano00001 on Jul 2, 2020 20:56:18 GMT
I presume this is good for us?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 2, 2020 20:59:19 GMT
When you look at our attitude In comparison to there’s bearing in mind the wages our lot are on it makes their performance all the more embarrassing
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Post by thevoid on Jul 2, 2020 21:21:39 GMT
Can we give our wankers 1%?
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 2, 2020 21:22:32 GMT
I presume this is good for us? They’ll be looking to have enough money to finish the season off to avoid further issues. Seems like the players are taking the hit.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 2, 2020 21:24:10 GMT
Is it fair if a club not paying its players are playing clubs that we are fighting against to avoid relegation ? Something not rite here. Players not being paid are not going to break into a sweat. Having said that we are presumably paying ours and they aren’t doing much. 🤪⚓️ Ours don't break into a sweat and they most definitely are being paid.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 21:27:47 GMT
When you look at our attitude In comparison to there’s bearing in mind the wages our lot it makes their performance all the more embarrassing I imagine the entire squad are looking for new clubs and looking to catch the attention of others. Not a great time to be looking for a transfer. Certainly could do worse than raid them of a couple
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Post by thevoid on Jul 2, 2020 21:28:22 GMT
If by some miracle we stay up due to points deductions for other clubs, does anyone have any confidence that our visionary and competent hierarchy in the club will make the most of the gift horse presented to them and see us grasp the chance to make the club something special in years to come? Personally, I think the opportunity would be wasted on them and it would only be delaying the inevitable by a few years. Ultimately, they couldn’t run a bath. Going into next season we could be in a far better position than most of the league , so yes. To be fair the hierarchy has done it before but we need a serious clear out Good tactic to be honest. Oversee four years of decline and hope that 20+ other clubs have Frank Spencer doing their books.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 21:30:53 GMT
Going into next season we could be in a far better position than most of the league , so yes. To be fair the hierarchy has done it before but we need a serious clear out Good tactic to be honest. Oversee four years of decline and hope that 20+ other clubs have Frank Spencer doing their books. Seems a few have thankfully
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 2, 2020 21:30:56 GMT
There’s a rumour doing the rounds on Twitter that the new Wigan owners have purposely let the club go into admin due to ‘gambling interests’ in the Philippines. Will be interesting to see how this plays out if there’s any truth in it. That would be absolutely outrageous if it's true, therefore I'm calling BS on that rumour. That can't be true in a million years. There might be something in it. This is the discussion Parry had with a Wigan supporter...
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Post by thevoid on Jul 2, 2020 21:32:41 GMT
Mel Morris was seeking investment at Derby just before the lockdown and it failed to materialise so it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re not in trouble also Bricking it over Rooney's contract?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 21:33:52 GMT
That would be absolutely outrageous if it's true, therefore I'm calling BS on that rumour. That can't be true in a million years. There might be something in it. This is the discussion Parry had with a Wigan supporter... Good god that is lunacy.
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