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Post by rorystowel on Jul 1, 2020 6:51:30 GMT
It won't matter a jot what 11 he puts out. We will still have 4/5 or even 6 poor players on the pitch at the same time. If MBI, Chester, Ince, Thomson, Vokes, Gregory, Ward and Clucas are anywhere near the 11 v Barnsley we are fucked. I’d add Butland to that list, and Collins (at right back), in fact I’d struggle to pick any of those who started v Wigan. |
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Post by femark on Jul 1, 2020 7:50:10 GMT
We only have a threat with both Campbell and Vokes on so: Davies Smith Shawcross Collins BMI Sorensen Clucas Powell Campbell Vokes McClean Agree with this |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 9:18:27 GMT
I don't really know where to start now. The 6 changes last night have made things a little less clear than we thought. Where do you go from here in certain positions?
I'm still convinced our best option is to play the front four that worked so well at Huddersfield and stick to it:
Campbell Powell McClean
...............Vokes................
From there it's a case of filling in the rest of your side behind it with as much pace and power as we can get, but even then it is still filled with holes.
Goalkeeper I'd pick Davies now. Butland has gone and last night was a virtual re-run of the Leicester debacle in the PL relegation season.
Back four - Smith Shawcross Collins Tymon (Christ, what left back situation?)
I can't pick Ward, I couldn't pick Bruno and Clucas who I touted for that position, after last night wouldn't play again.
Midfield i'd have to go with Cousins and Sorensen. Thompson isn't ready, Clucas has acted himself out of a place and that doesn't really leave a lot. Sorensen lacks raw physicality but has good pace and movement. Even he isn't ready in fairness but needs must. Both he and Cousins had the best stats for sprints and running power over the break and maybe that will be enough to get us over the line? They both seem to have a good attitude, which is a start I suppose.
Davies
Smith Shawcross Collins Tymon
...........Sorensen Cousins.........
Campbell.......Powell......McClean
..................Vokes....................
Christ on a Unicycle.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 1, 2020 9:23:58 GMT
I don't really know where to start now. The 6 changes last night have made things a little less clear than we thought. Where do you go from here in certain positions? I'm still convinced our best option is to play the front four that worked so well at Huddersfield and stick to it: Campbell Powell McClean
...............Vokes................
From there it's a case of filling in the rest of your side behind it with as much pace and power as we can get, but even then it is still filled with holes. Goalkeeper I'd pick Davies now. Butland has gone and last night was a virtual re-run of the Leicester debacle in the PL relegation season. Back four - Smith Shawcross Collins Tymon (Christ, what left back situation?) I can't pick Ward, I couldn't pick Bruno and Clucas who I touted for that position, after last night wouldn't play again. Midfield i'd have to go with Cousins and Sorensen. Thompson isn't ready, Clucas has acted himself out of a place and that doesn't really leave a lot. Sorensen lacks raw physicality but has good pace and movement. Even he isn't ready in fairness but needs must. Both he and Cousins had the best stats for sprints and running power over the break and maybe that will be enough to get us over the line? They both seem to have a good attitude, which is a start I suppose. Davies Smith Shawcross Collins Tymon ...........Sorensen Cousins......... Campbell.......Powell......McClean ..................Vokes.................... Christ on a Unicycle. Agree with most of that, that’s what I’d go with. |
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Post by juiceandbits on Jul 1, 2020 9:26:56 GMT
Smith Shawcross Collins Tymon ...........Sorensen Cousins......... Campbell.......Powell......McClean ..................Vokes.................... Christ on a Unicycle. I think you've just picked our league one side for next season. |
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Post by mcw on Jul 1, 2020 9:39:53 GMT
Somethings got to give- is Powell even back for Barnsley? If so then would be tempted to go with the above, Tymon at left back can't possibly be any worse than Martins-Indi or Ward as even if he makes a mistake he has some pace at least (or maybe not if he has had his snout in the pig trough during lock down/equally uninterested as 60/70% of the squad seem in our plight). What an utter utter disgrace this situation is and the players should hang their heads in shame at the laughing stock they have become.
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Post by sheds1862 on Jul 1, 2020 9:44:39 GMT
Smith Shawcross Collins Tymon ...........Sorensen Cousins......... Campbell.......Powell......McClean ..................Vokes.................... Christ on a Unicycle. I think you've just picked our league one side for next season. Yes we'll be that good you have omitted to include a keeper. |
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Post by musik on Jul 1, 2020 9:45:28 GMT
Seriously. Butland can't play on Sat, at least two of the goals were saveable.
Stoke - Barnsley
--- Federici ---
Edwards-Chester-Collins-Diouf
Powell-Clucas-McClean
Gregory-Vokes-Campbell
Subs: Davies, Shawcross, BMI, Bauer, Sörensen, Oakley-B, Ngoy
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Post by jwhpotter on Jul 1, 2020 10:14:13 GMT
Davies
Smith Shawcross Collins Indi (wank but best option)
Campbell Powell (needs must) Cousins McClean
Diouf Vokes
Where the fuck is Edwards by the way? Maybe didn’t stay fit over the break. Can’t even get in the squad
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 1, 2020 10:17:20 GMT
How to pick a starting XI from that shower of shite: Davies Smith Shawcross Collins Martins Indi Cousins Thompson Campbell Powell Clucas Vokes 7 players there,I wouldnt wish on the Vale |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 10:24:46 GMT
How to pick a starting XI from that shower of shite: Davies Smith Shawcross Collins Martins Indi Cousins Thompson Campbell Powell Clucas Vokes 7 players there,I wouldnt wish on the Vale We are where we are..... |
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Post by bloodtypered on Jul 1, 2020 13:44:26 GMT
A win and wigan get a 12 point deduction would be good
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jul 1, 2020 13:47:32 GMT
Davies Smith Shawcross Collins Indi (wank but best option) Campbell Powell (needs must) Cousins McClean Diouf Vokes Where the fuck is Edwards by the way? Maybe didn’t stay fit over the break. Can’t even get in the squad No idea but he’s got to give him a chance because tommy smith is utter dog shit. |
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 1, 2020 13:54:57 GMT
Davies.
Smith.
Ryan.
Lindsay/Batth cant decide.
BMI. I cant see another option
Diouf.
Clucas.
Sorenson.
Jimmy.
Campbell.
Vokes.
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Post by karl on Jul 1, 2020 14:05:58 GMT
Davies. Smith. Ryan. Lindsay/Batth cant decide. BMI. I cant see another option Diouf. Clucas. Sorenson. Jimmy. Campbell. Vokes. I wouldn't play Ryan as he clearly isn't fit and cannot play a whole match. Powell will be back as it was only a one match suspension. |
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 1, 2020 14:07:08 GMT
Davies. Smith. Ryan. Lindsay/Batth cant decide. BMI. I cant see another option Diouf. Clucas. Sorenson. Jimmy. Campbell. Vokes. I wouldn't play Ryan as he clearly isn't fit and cannot play a whole match. Powell will be back as it was only a one match suspension. I know Powell is back but I would play him. |
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 1, 2020 14:16:06 GMT
Davies
Smith
Collins
Shawcross /Batth
BMI
Sorensen
Cousins
Campbell
Powell
Clucas
Vokes
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 1, 2020 14:42:04 GMT
As much as this is a must win, it is very much a must not lose, which is eminently possible given the chaos and disorder at the back. I'm not normally one for this sort of thing, but a robust 4-4-1-1 with an unsubtle but organised game plan seems to be a good strategy.
Butland
Edwards
Shawcross
Collins
Indi
Diouf
Cousins
Clucas
McClean
Vokes
Campbell
If Vokes isn't up to the physical demands of the Mama role when we don't have the ball then he can be swapped for Gregory.
The back eight are all there to defend and possibly break away with the ball. If they have possession of the ball on the halfway line, something is badly wrong. McClean and Diouf are there for their stamina and willingness to support their full back. That should go some way to dealing with our hapless defence and invisible midfield.
When we have the ball, the first job is to find Ryan, who is our best long passer. He then picks out Vokes, who plays Campbell into the channels. If the ball gets to the full backs, their first thought should be to get it to Vokes. If it gets to the full backs, their first touch should be a big boot up to Vokes.
If they make a complete mess of it, he can always bring Powell on.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jul 1, 2020 15:30:06 GMT
Davies Chester Shawcross Batth Smith Clucas Oakley-Boothe McClean Powell Diouf Campbell Not sure about Shawcross so wouldn’t mind Collins in his place. Butland isn’t good enough for this division and Ince isn’t what you need in a battle. Ince isn’t what you need in a football team. |
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Post by onepara on Jul 1, 2020 16:29:54 GMT
Seriously. Butland can't play on Sat, at least two of the goals were saveable. Stoke - Barnsley --- Federici --- Edwards-Chester-Collins-Diouf Powell-Clucas-McClean Gregory-Vokes-Campbell Subs: Davies, Shawcross, BMI, Bauer, Sörensen, Oakley-B, Ngoy I read somewhere that Federici had left the club. |
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Post by karl on Jul 1, 2020 16:50:24 GMT
Seriously. Butland can't play on Sat, at least two of the goals were saveable. Stoke - Barnsley --- Federici --- Edwards-Chester-Collins-Diouf Powell-Clucas-McClean Gregory-Vokes-Campbell Subs: Davies, Shawcross, BMI, Bauer, Sörensen, Oakley-B, Ngoy I read somewhere that Federici had left the club. Yeah Adam Federici will be out of contract |
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Post by musik on Jul 1, 2020 17:11:07 GMT
I read somewhere that Federici had left the club. Yeah Adam Federici will be out of contract Davies it will be then, and Ince as back up goalie ... |
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 1, 2020 17:39:15 GMT
Davies
Smith
Ryan
BMI
Tymon
Sorensen
Oakley-Booth
Cousins
Clucas
Powell
Campbell
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 1, 2020 17:40:42 GMT
Must win is an understatement. Most important game in 4 decades?
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Post by neddy on Jul 1, 2020 17:42:06 GMT
Biggest club game for MON i would think in his career.....I’m praying he gets it right!
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 1, 2020 17:42:35 GMT
Probably our most important match since... our last important match.
Think this goes into the "nine pointer" bracket.
Is Diouf available??
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 1, 2020 17:43:28 GMT
How Clucas is getting in most sides posted here is strange
The last 2 game he may as well sat on the bench - awful player and yet another we bought with a reputation some idiot thought they could turn around
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 1, 2020 17:44:22 GMT
Problem we've got is Barnsley's must be fucking buzzing right now. A bunch of humble lads on comparably low salaries who were resigned to league 1 and anything else is a bonus. They are now on the brink of one of the most astonishing achievements in championship history.
Meanwhile, our bunch of useless, overpaid jerks are on the brink of the biggest calamity in championship history. The most expensive side to ever be relegated to league one? Must be.
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Post by FrankButcher on Jul 1, 2020 17:59:50 GMT
Considering how toothless in attack we are and the fact that our defence seems to crumble every time a team attacks us I don't think Barnsley will hesitate to attack us from the off after last night's shit show I can't see how we turn it around and stay up irrespective of however many changes MON can make in true NJ fashion.
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Post by neddy on Jul 1, 2020 18:04:42 GMT
I just wish the crowd could be there it would have made a massive difference against Boro and more so re Barnsley?
I bet the manager wishes the crowd were their as it’s totally in there hands and we are powerless 🙁.
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