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Post by thepremierbanksy on Sept 19, 2020 23:22:21 GMT
Just got in from the pub and watched the TT, little bit worried that my drink was spiked. What the fuck?!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 20, 2020 7:32:17 GMT
Just got in from the pub and watched the TT, little bit worried that my drink was spiked. What the fuck?! I'm still a little unconvinced by having TTs in the TdF, seems a bit like all the tyre changes in F1, but it certainly added to the drama yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 8:36:29 GMT
Wow ! I didn't see that coming. Pogacar overturned Roglic's 57 second lead going into the stage 20 time trial, and after Roglic cracked, Pogacar now leads by 59 seconds with only the stage 21 procession into Paris remaining. "I think I'm dreaming. I feel like my head is exploding," was Pogacar's reaction on Eurosport. Roglic must be shattered after leading so comfortably since the first rest day. Chapeau - well done indeed ! Special mention too for Richie Porte who turned the clock back and climbed up to third place instead of Lopez. After a very dull Tour (in my opinion) it has certainly had a sting in the tail. Looking forward to the Giro in a couple of weeks now ! One of the best penultimate days in the tour I was there for the other one. That was an amazing finish ! I remember watching it and hoping Lemond (as a non French rider) was going to win but it seemed unlikely goi g I to the TT. I've just recently finished reading the book about it "Three Weeks, Eight Seconds" by Nige Tassell. It gives a fascinating insight into the race. Fignon actually had a huge saddle sore and had not slept for several days due to the pain. He always claimed Lemond's triathlon style handlebars were illegal at the time and shouldn't have been permitted.
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Post by liathroid on Sept 20, 2020 20:41:11 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Sept 20, 2020 21:25:20 GMT
My mate sent me this yesterday
“Apparently Pogacar was 6.9w/kg for 16 mins on the Class 1 climb at the end of today’s TT. That’s physiologically impossible to do clean 🤔”
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Sept 20, 2020 21:43:26 GMT
My mate sent me this yesterday “Apparently Pogacar was 6.9w/kg for 16 mins on the Class 1 climb at the end of today’s TT. That’s physiologically impossible to do clean 🤔” 6.5w/kg is supposed to be the 'clean' limit I think. I've also seen another source that calculated 6.5 as his numbers from yesterday. It might depend where you take the climb as starting from. It's more Operation Aderlass and the rise of the Slovenian powerhouses that has me on edge.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 22:19:07 GMT
Nairo Quintana's Arkea-Samsic team under investigation over alleged doping at Tour link
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 5:08:52 GMT
Nairo Quintana's Arkea-Samsic team under investigation over alleged doping at Tour linkThe police say they found "many health products, including drugs....but also and above all a method that can be qualified as doping". It seems they searched all the medical staff's belongings as well as some riders, including Quintana's brother Dayer. I really can't stand Nairo Quintana but I hope he's not involved in this. I thought it was strange that he was running so high in the GC for the first part of the Tour, and was being discussed as a possible top six finisher, and then he suddenly seemed to fall off a cliff and disappear to finish 17th more than an hour behind the winner. Sad times for the sport if this is true. I wonder how the authorities were alerted, dodgy test result, tip off, or unusual stage results ?
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Sept 24, 2020 10:43:07 GMT
Nairo Quintana's Arkea-Samsic team under investigation over alleged doping at Tour linkThe police say they found "many health products, including drugs....but also and above all a method that can be qualified as doping". It seems they searched all the medical staff's belongings as well as some riders, including Quintana's brother Dayer. I really can't stand Nairo Quintana but I hope he's not involved in this. I thought it was strange that he was running so high in the GC for the first part of the Tour, and was being discussed as a possible top six finisher, and then he suddenly seemed to fall off a cliff and disappear to finish 17th more than an hour behind the winner. Sad times for the sport if this is true. I wonder how the authorities were alerted, dodgy test result, tip off, or unusual stage results ? He was going really well at the start of the season and then began the tour quite well, hence being talked about as a potential podium guy, but lost his form in the tour following a crash. Quintana released a statement yesterday saying that the stuff was just saline and vitamin solutions and that nothing illegal was seized. Not sure what the 'method that qualfies as doping' is referring to - stuff for doing a blood bag perhaps? Can't see there being much point in him doping after the Queen stage when he was already many minutes down. Sounds like the raid resulted from a tip off. There's also a weird disparity between Quintana and his team over whether the guys arrested (a soigneur and maybe a doctor?) were officially on the Arkea Samsic team or not, the team distanced themselves from them, but Nairo says they are on the team. Probably part of his entourage and the team pay them via Quintana. On Pogacar I listened to the science of sport podcast yesterday and they reckoned his ascent of the TT climb was more like 6.6W/kg, and about 6W/kg for the flat part beforehand. Not that anyone including UAE know for sure as there are no power data.
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Post by neworleanstokie on Sept 24, 2020 12:19:54 GMT
I can push 6.9w/kg for about 20 seconds max after a 40 minute ride with a heart rate going up close to 100%. But I am almost 55!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 22:45:13 GMT
I can push 6.9w/kg for about 20 seconds max after a 40 minute ride with a heart rate going up close to 100%. But I am almost 55! I have no idea. I just ride my bike and enjoy the scenery.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 14:05:49 GMT
Good to see Team Ineos have made some cracking signings for the 2021 season.
They are continuing with the British element in the team with the signing of the hugely talented Tom Pidcock. He won this year's Under-23 Giro d'Italia, came third in the 2019 under-23 road race World Championships and is an ex-world junior time trial champion, and is the reigning British Champion.
I'm also really pleased to see the return of Richie Porte as well - this time as a super domestique. In spite of their successes I never thought that Team Sky were as good after Richie had left for BMC.
Belgian climber Laurens de Plus and Dani Martinez (Tour de France stage win and winner of the Criterium du Dauphine) have also been recruited, along with Adam Yates who signed last month. They have also previously signed Rohan Dennis who is one of the favourites for today's World Championship Elite Men's Time Trial race in Italy.
After what has been a year to forget for the sport and for Ineos, hopefully 2021 will see a return of the domination of the British team. I'm just sorry that Chris Froome never managed to win his 5th TDF with the team, as I think his chance has now gone with his move to Israel Start-Up Nation for 2021.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Sept 25, 2020 14:13:47 GMT
Thomas set a pretty good time at the World TTs, at the halfway time check only Dennis and Ganna ahead, both of whom are likely to be riding for him at the Giro.
Edit: Thomas 4th, Ganna won. Bodes well for him with 65km of ITT at the Giro. Got to be taking time out of Simon Yates on those stages which is good for the crowd as it means Yates has to attack.
Nibali looked out of form at Tirreno. Vlasov, Fulgsang and Kruiskvijk (sp) the other main contenders, looking likely there'll be at least one maybe two Brits on the podium.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 25, 2020 15:55:35 GMT
I can push 6.9w/kg for about 20 seconds max after a 40 minute ride with a heart rate going up close to 100%. But I am almost 55! I’m struggling at 3.8wkg on a 20 minute test and that hurts
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Post by neworleanstokie on Sept 27, 2020 14:38:10 GMT
I can push 6.9w/kg for about 20 seconds max after a 40 minute ride with a heart rate going up close to 100%. But I am almost 55! I’m struggling at 3.8wkg on a 20 minute test and that hurts My last ride was back in March (all indoor). 18 Miles, 0.65 kJ, 230 Av Watts (2.6 wkg), 511 Max Watts, Heart rate around 150 Av. for around 40 minutes. Due to Covid we haven't been able to bring back indoor cycling yet. I miss it as it was easier on my knees than running.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 15:20:47 GMT
I'm tagging this onto the TDF thread as I didn't want to start another if there is not much interest in it.
Anyway the Giro d'Italia started today with a 15 km time trial around Palermo in Sicily. Great performance by Filippo Ganna of Ineos to take the first pink jersey, he's 22 seconds clear of second place, but another great performance by Geraint Thomas (only 23 seconds slower than Ganna) has G effectively top of the GC main contenders. Simon Yates also well in contention but Nibali and the others are all over a minute down on G already.
Miguel Angel Lopez of Astana is already out after crashing heavily and going through some barriers.
Should be a good race after a fairly lacklustre TDF.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 3, 2020 19:38:14 GMT
Thomas already in the driving seat
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 19, 2021 19:31:16 GMT
I think the Giro has started very well so far. Loads to play for.
Watched the MTB event last week and it was an awesome display from Tom Piddock such a talent. In the women’s event Evie Richards came 5th which is another great showing ahead of the olympics. We could actually medal in the event.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 19:42:52 GMT
Ethan Hayter has started really well for Ineos - another one to watch in future. I've watched all of the Giro so far. It's good to see Egan Bernal has increased his lead in the GC with Remco Evenepoel losing 2 minutes to him in todays stage. Bernal also leading the youth jersey. Brits Hugh Carthy and Simon Yates are both in the top 5 as well. Ineos also leading the team standings by over 9 minutes. Sagan back doing what he does best, leading the Points jersey. Bernal currently second in the KOM. I don't know if anyone saw the crash with Mikel Landa the other day, pretty nasty and left him with a broken collar bone and several broken ribs - ouch ! And after the Giro is over it's not that long this year till the TDF starts
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Post by salopstick on May 19, 2021 20:48:05 GMT
Today’s stage was as as good as any grand tour stage you will see. Should be more of them.
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Post by salopstick on May 19, 2021 20:49:35 GMT
24:50 for a ten mile TT tonight on a road bike
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 23, 2021 17:08:11 GMT
Not sure what platform people are watching it on but really enjoying the Eurosport / GCN coverage at the moment. Rob Hatch is a great commentator far better than Kirby who really does get on my tits especially on slow flat stages. Loving the mix of co-commentators with Sean Kelly (whose always pretty excellent), Adam Blythe (whose palamares isnt the greatest but he did mix it at the top level) his knowledge is great and rider recognition excellent and comes across as a nice bloke. Wiggins, Lloyd and Brian Smith also excellent.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 17:20:50 GMT
Not sure what platform people are watching it on but really enjoying the Eurosport / GCN coverage at the moment. Rob Hatch is a great commentator far better than Kirby who really does get on my tits especially on slow flat stages. Loving the mix of co-commentators with Sean Kelly (whose always pretty excellent), Adam Blythe (whose palamares isnt the greatest but he did mix it at the top level) his knowledge is great and rider recognition excellent and comes across as a nice bloke. Wiggins, Lloyd and Brian Smith also excellent. Yes, I really enjoy the Eurosport coverage as well. I like listening to Sean Kelly and Brian Smith's analysis and comments. Rob Hatch is good but I actually don't mind Carlton Kirby either, they've just got different styles, Rob's more matter of fact whereas Carlton sometimes does tends to ramble on (a lot ! ). Overall their coverage is excellent. I have watched ITV4's coverage with Ned Boulting and David Millar in past Grand Tours, and it's fine in short bursts, but after a while the constant commercial breaks and their overall presentation isn't as good as Eurosport IMO.
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 23, 2021 17:27:05 GMT
Not sure what platform people are watching it on but really enjoying the Eurosport / GCN coverage at the moment. Rob Hatch is a great commentator far better than Kirby who really does get on my tits especially on slow flat stages. Loving the mix of co-commentators with Sean Kelly (whose always pretty excellent), Adam Blythe (whose palamares isnt the greatest but he did mix it at the top level) his knowledge is great and rider recognition excellent and comes across as a nice bloke. Wiggins, Lloyd and Brian Smith also excellent. Yes, I really enjoy the Eurosport coverage as well. I like listening to Sean Kelly and Brian Smith's analysis and comments. Rob Hatch is good but I actually don't mind Carlton Kirby either, they've just got different styles, Rob's more matter of fact whereas Carlton sometimes does tends to ramble on (a lot ! ). Overall their coverage is excellent. I have watched ITV4's coverage with Ned Boulting and David Millar in past Grand Tours, and it's fine in short bursts, but after a while the constant commercial breaks and their overall presentation isn't as good as Eurosport IMO. I dont mind Kirby's occasional facts about the area the race is visiting as it can be quite interesting but I think is inane ramblings about certain riders "trying a cheeky one" when its obvious they aren't gets on my wick. Again Boulting and Millar are very knowledgable and Millar especially comes across very well and clearly has great relationships with current pros so is able to get insight from them on guest calls etc the standouts being him talking to cavendish on one tour when cav was injured. Very interesting interview. I have missed David Harmon on Eurosport always thought he was excellent and again seemed to have a good rapport with his co-commentators.
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2021 17:29:08 GMT
Yes, I really enjoy the Eurosport coverage as well. I like listening to Sean Kelly and Brian Smith's analysis and comments. Rob Hatch is good but I actually don't mind Carlton Kirby either, they've just got different styles, Rob's more matter of fact whereas Carlton sometimes does tends to ramble on (a lot ! ). Overall their coverage is excellent. I have watched ITV4's coverage with Ned Boulting and David Millar in past Grand Tours, and it's fine in short bursts, but after a while the constant commercial breaks and their overall presentation isn't as good as Eurosport IMO. I dont mind Kirby's occasional facts about the area the race is visiting as it can be quite interesting but I think is inane ramblings about certain riders "trying a cheeky one" when its obvious they aren't gets on my wick. Again Boulting and Millar are very knowledgable and Millar especially comes across very well and clearly has great relationships with current pros so is able to get insight from them on guest calls etc the standouts being him talking to cavendish on one tour when cav was injured. Very interesting interview. I have missed David Harmon on Eurosport always thought he was excellent and again seemed to have a good rapport with his co-commentators. Can’t abide orla chennoui though
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 18:58:59 GMT
I dont mind Kirby's occasional facts about the area the race is visiting as it can be quite interesting but I think is inane ramblings about certain riders "trying a cheeky one" when its obvious they aren't gets on my wick. Again Boulting and Millar are very knowledgable and Millar especially comes across very well and clearly has great relationships with current pros so is able to get insight from them on guest calls etc the standouts being him talking to cavendish on one tour when cav was injured. Very interesting interview. I have missed David Harmon on Eurosport always thought he was excellent and again seemed to have a good rapport with his co-commentators. Can’t abide orla chennoui though Totally agree - can't do with her.
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Post by Kewstokie on Jun 24, 2021 8:40:57 GMT
Kicks off again on Saturday.
Not too many mountain finishes this time so pure climbers won't have it their own way. Can't see beyond Roglic or Pogacar for the title and can't choose between them so won't have a bet on the winner. Alaphilippe to be in yellow in the early stages and may make the podium if he hangs on, but have a feeling Porte may be the highest placed Ineos rider and have a small wager on him making the podium.
Going over to cover stages 6,7 and 13 to 15. Picnic hamper, Stoke shirt, flag all ready.
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Post by salopstick on Jun 24, 2021 8:49:52 GMT
Kicks off again on Saturday. Not too many mountain finishes this time so pure climbers won't have it their own way. Can't see beyond Roglic or Pogacar for the title and can't choose between them so won't have a bet on the winner. Alaphilippe to be in yellow in the early stages and may make the podium if he hangs on, but have a feeling Porte may be the highest placed Ineos rider and have a small wager on him making the podium. Going over to cover stages 6,7 and 13 to 15. Picnic hamper, Stoke shirt, flag all ready. I’m having a day of work for stage 11. But they are only doing 1&1/2 ascents of ventoux. Weak
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 12:03:24 GMT
Really looking forward to it. I think it'll be between Roglic and Pogacar to fight it out for yellow. Alaphilippe to be prominent throughout, and Ineos with the strongest team but no real chance of yellow this year. Can't see Thomas or Carpapaz really having enough to beat Roglic or Pogacar, hope I'm wrong though. The green jersey battle should be good this year, and Cav to try to add to his number of stage wins. www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/tour-de-france-start-listlink
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jun 24, 2021 13:21:06 GMT
Really looking forward to it. I think it'll be between Roglic and Pogacar to fight it out for yellow. Alaphilippe to be prominent throughout, and Ineos with the strongest team but no real chance of yellow this year. Can't see Thomas or Carpapaz really having enough to beat Roglic or Pogacar, hope I'm wrong though. The green jersey battle should be good this year, and Cav to try to add to his number of stage wins. www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/tour-de-france-start-listlinkIt probably will be between Roglic and Pogacar, but I actually think Carapaz is Ineos' best chance of Yellow. He finished the Tour very strongly last year, and then had a good Vuelta. He looks stronger on the climbs than Thomas, and I think he could surprise one or two people. So happy to see Cav back, if he could take 1 stage it would be fantastic. Vive la Tour!
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