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Post by stokeykez on Jul 13, 2020 16:57:47 GMT
Really not that clever at working out all of the permutations of this league.
What would be good results for us tuesday/weds games ?
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 13, 2020 17:11:03 GMT
Really not that clever at working out all of the permutations of this league. What would be good results for us tuesday/weds games ? Reading v Middlesboro (H) Luton v QPR (A) Sheff Wed v Huddersfield (H) Wigan v Hull (H) Birmingham v Charlton (D) Leeds v Barnsley (H) Question mark over Wigan I suppose but with -12 they’d still be 4pts behind us if they beat Hull, even if we lose on Wednesday. Main priority though, obviously, is that the current bottom 3 don’t pick any points up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 17:14:06 GMT
Looking at what i think is worst case I have it as:
Boro - W D L - 51 - 12 Charlton - W L L - 49 -15 Stoke - L L L - 49 -16 Huddersfield - D L D - 49 -20 Luton - W D D - 49 -28 Wigan - W W L - 48 - 4 Hull - L D L - 46 - 21 Barnsley - L L L - 43 - 30
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 13, 2020 17:24:04 GMT
Really not that clever at working out all of the permutations of this league. What would be good results for us tuesday/weds games ? Reading v Middlesboro (H) Luton v QPR (A) Sheff Wed v Huddersfield (H) Wigan v Hull (H) Birmingham v Charlton (D) Leeds v Barnsley (H) Question mark over Wigan I suppose but with -12 they’d still be 4pts behind us if they beat Hull, even if we lose on Wednesday. Main priority though, obviously, is that the current bottom 3 don’t pick any points up. I've just been talking to a Leeds fan congratulating me on "Stoke now safe" (his words) and Leeds now "bound to be promoted". I would love for their near neighbours little Barnsley to pull their pants down on Wednesday.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Jul 13, 2020 17:33:18 GMT
Really not that clever at working out all of the permutations of this league. What would be good results for us tuesday/weds games ? Reading v Middlesboro (H) Luton v QPR (A) Sheff Wed v Huddersfield (H) Wigan v Hull (H) Birmingham v Charlton (D) Leeds v Barnsley (H) Question mark over Wigan I suppose but with -12 they’d still be 4pts behind us if they beat Hull, even if we lose on Wednesday. Main priority though, obviously, is that the current bottom 3 don’t pick any points up. Agree but I would also argue a Birmingham win would be better
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 13, 2020 20:49:55 GMT
Reading v Middlesboro (H) Luton v QPR (A) Sheff Wed v Huddersfield (H) Wigan v Hull (H) Birmingham v Charlton (D) Leeds v Barnsley (H) Question mark over Wigan I suppose but with -12 they’d still be 4pts behind us if they beat Hull, even if we lose on Wednesday. Main priority though, obviously, is that the current bottom 3 don’t pick any points up. I've just been talking to a Leeds fan congratulating me on "Stoke now safe" (his words) and Leeds now "bound to be promoted". I would love for their near neighbours little Barnsley to pull their pants down on Wednesday. I bloody wouldnt, I dont want any teams who are remotely close to us picking up points. I have gone past Caring as to who gets promoted now, spent so much time admiring what it would be like to be near the top. All I want is to know that no matter what we are not taking the place of wycombe wanderers
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Post by lordb on Jul 13, 2020 21:15:18 GMT
Reading v Middlesboro (H) Luton v QPR (A) Sheff Wed v Huddersfield (H) Wigan v Hull (H) Birmingham v Charlton (D) Leeds v Barnsley (H) Question mark over Wigan I suppose but with -12 they’d still be 4pts behind us if they beat Hull, even if we lose on Wednesday. Main priority though, obviously, is that the current bottom 3 don’t pick any points up. Agree but I would also argue a Birmingham win would be better Maybe but Blues going down is always funny I think Charlton will beat them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 21:22:27 GMT
Boro, Hull, Luton, Huddersfield 4 fold for tomorrow is rattling into the arena at 75s.
It goes without saying, I'm all over it like a rash.
😆
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Post by stokefc on Jul 13, 2020 21:25:44 GMT
Boro, Hull, Luton, Huddersfield 4 fold for tomorrow is rattling into the arena at 75s. It goes without saying, I'm all over it like a rash. 😆 Bravo sir It's working like a charm How much you down?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 21:27:30 GMT
Boro, Hull, Luton, Huddersfield 4 fold for tomorrow is rattling into the arena at 75s. It goes without saying, I'm all over it like a rash. 😆 Bravo sir It's working like a charm How much you down? If we stay up, I'm up in spades.
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Post by stokie1947 on Jul 13, 2020 21:31:12 GMT
i think Barnsley and Hull will go down for the last place i don't know wouldn't surprise me if NJ pulls off a miracle at Luton and Wigan escape relegation despite the 12pts deduction leaving me hoping against hope we can pick up some more points to make sure we are safe
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Post by stokefc on Jul 13, 2020 21:32:18 GMT
Bravo sir It's working like a charm How much you down? If we stay up, I'm up in spades. Nice one, I wish I could bet and win ☹
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 13, 2020 21:45:50 GMT
LaCdies and efentleman
We are staying the fuck up.
I am somewhat drunk. Sod the team in games.
3 pts Bristol 3 pts Brentford 3 pts Forest
Letg be having the bastards. Promotion next season, rcrcord points haul. Mom god. Come on to minute potters.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jul 13, 2020 21:52:57 GMT
The current bottom teams fixtures:
US: Bristol City (A) Brentford (H) Notts Forest (A) we REALLY could do with another single point! Birmingham: Charlton (H) Preston (A) Derby (H) need a GD swing of 8 more than us Middlesborough: Reading (A) Cardiff (H) Sheff W (A) need 2 point and a GD swing of 4 more than us Huddersfield: Sheff W (A) West Brom (H) Millwall (A) need 2 points and a GD swing of 7 more than us Charlton: Birmingham (A) Wigan (H) Leeds (A) need 3 points and a GD swing of 2 (possible) Hull City: Wigan (A) Luton (H) Cardiff (A) need 4 point and a GD swing of 9 or 5 points Luton Town: QPR (H) Hull City (A) Blackburn Rovers (H) Need 5 points and a GD swing of 21 from the remaining 3 games. Barnsley: Leeds (A) Forest (H) Brentford (A).... Need not only a hope and a prayer, they need either 6 points and a GD swing of 11, or 7 points from the remaining 3 fixtures.
When you look at the above, it assumes we dont pick up another point in the next 3 games (this is Stoke so its possible) Barnsley you would think that with their fixtures are unlikely to finish above us. Luton would need to win 2 and draw 1 with a good goal difference swing to finish above us. Hull City play Luton so, if it isnt a draw only one can catch us ( a draw would be just supper to be honest) Charlton are still within touching distance of catching us, lets hope Leeds are not on the beech, Huddersfield, could match us points wise, but that GD swing should be worth the extra point, Middlesborough should have enough to beat the drop and Birmingham like ourselves are almost over the line. It is comforting to know that regardless of how shite we have been this season, we have 4 or 5 teams below us that are equally or if not worse than us, and we should bar a complete cluster fuck of results over the next 10 days be home and dry (oh for a point at Bristol!)
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Post by Billy the kid on Jul 13, 2020 21:59:57 GMT
LaCdies and efentleman We are staying the fuck up. I am somewhat drunk. Sod the team in games. 3 pts Bristol 3 pts Brentford 3 pts Forest Letg be having the bastards. Promotion next season, rcrcord points haul. Mom god. Come on to minute potters. i think someone has put too much turps in the home brew fella, dial 111 and tell them what you told us, they will sort you out.
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Post by walrus on Jul 13, 2020 22:05:10 GMT
Going into the restart we were effectively top of the relegation mini-league and it was always the case that as long as we picked up a couple of wins then the chances were that at least three teams would finish worse off.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jul 13, 2020 22:06:17 GMT
Going into the restart we were effectively top of the relegation mini-league and it was always the case that as long as we picked up a couple of wins then the chances were that at least three teams would finish worse off. The Birmingham result was massive wasn’t it
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Post by geendienst on Jul 13, 2020 22:13:08 GMT
Going into the restart we were effectively top of the relegation mini-league and it was always the case that as long as we picked up a couple of wins then the chances were that at least three teams would finish worse off. The Birmingham result was massive wasn’t it And all the other results went perfectly over the weekend.* As discussed elsewhere, it needs too many very unlikely runs of results for three of the clubs at/near the bottom to overtake them now. They are also down there through having been shite, and 3 or 4 of them aren't going to start pulling two-wins-out-of-three kind of form.
Whether that makes them play in a freer more relaxed way, or they really do conclude they are on their holidays is anybody's guess.
*And considering the trainspotters got promoted, what a very nice wekend that was. We don't want them getting delusions of adequacy again, like last time they had a little spurt.
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Post by britvic72 on Jul 13, 2020 22:14:37 GMT
Can’t see where Birmingham will get another point
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 13, 2020 22:44:19 GMT
LaCdies and efentleman We are staying the fuck up. I am somewhat drunk. Sod the team in games. 3 pts Bristol 3 pts Brentford 3 pts Forest Letg be having the bastards. Promotion next season, rcrcord points haul. Mom god. Come on to minute potters. Is daft Benji PAing for you tonight 😎
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 13, 2020 22:54:52 GMT
LaCdies and efentleman We are staying the fuck up. I am somewhat drunk. Sod the team in games. 3 pts Bristol 3 pts Brentford 3 pts Forest Letg be having the bastards. Promotion next season, rcrcord points haul. Mom god. Come on to minute potters. If Carlsberg did predictions, oh no hang on Carlsberg HAS done this prediction.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 13, 2020 23:31:33 GMT
I heard a commentator this morning say something about Sheffield Wednesday being in same boat as Wigan anyone else heard this
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 14, 2020 7:30:31 GMT
LaCdies and efentleman We are staying the fuck up. I am somewhat drunk. Sod the team in games. 3 pts Bristol 3 pts Brentford 3 pts Forest Letg be having the bastards. Promotion next season, rcrcord points haul. Mom god. Come on to minute potters. If Carlsberg did predictions, oh no hang on Carlsberg HAS done this prediction. I now realise the ridiculousness of my bold prediction after a good sleep. 1 point
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 14, 2020 14:27:41 GMT
I heard a commentator this morning say something about Sheffield Wednesday being in same boat as Wigan anyone else heard this Saw a bbc report for monkface moaning that the decision was taking so long, put him out of his misery please
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 14, 2020 14:29:10 GMT
I hope we win the race tomorrow by having 3 points and cannot be relegated
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 14, 2020 20:48:17 GMT
Updated after today's games. Not too many conclusions to draw, other than Boro appear safe. Wigan seem to have taken on the task of beating everyone out of sight and will be safe if they win their last two games. Until tomorrow.
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 14, 2020 21:04:58 GMT
Seeing as Luton have to Hull it means that both of them cannot finish above Stoke and a draw would mean neither of them could. Huddersfield play WBA and Millwall. It will be difficult for them. If Wigan get a twelve point deduction they need to win and draw. There are other teams like Charlton who need a win and a draw. I can clearly see light at the end of the tunnel even if we do not get any more points!
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Post by kjpt140v on Jul 14, 2020 21:12:25 GMT
Mathematically we're not safe but if we look at the fixtures the bottom three have left to play, I believe we are safe. The maximum points Hull and Luton can achieve is 51pts but they play each other. If there is a loser in that game that team can't catch us. If they draw then each team's maximum points would be 49, equal to us but they both have inferior goal difference. Barnsley have three games left with a possible maximum of 52pts but their final three games are against teams 1st, 3rd and 5th in the league. We could go down but I don't think so (I may never live this down)
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Post by mattface on Jul 14, 2020 21:15:36 GMT
Seeing as Luton have to Hull it means that both of them cannot finish above Stoke and a draw would mean neither of them could. Huddersfield play WBA and Millwall. It will be difficult for them. If Wigan get a twelve point deduction they need to win and draw. There are other teams like Charlton who need a win and a draw. I can clearly see light at the end of the tunnel even if we do not get any more points! Yep Luton and Hull draw. Barnsley lose one game Stoke are safe on goal difference on 49 points. Beat Bristol tomorrow the above is academic as Hull, Luton and Barnsley can't catch us. 😊
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 14, 2020 21:18:47 GMT
I would rather a win to seal it, if Charlton beat Birmingham and Hull or Luton win in their game then it's game on if we lose to Bristol. Birmingham beating Charlton would be a good result I think, they would have Wigan and Leeds to play and unlikely to beat either on current form.
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