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Post by spiderpuss on Jun 27, 2020 23:50:33 GMT
Excellent finish from the boys, now we can sit back and use this as a relegation watch. Phew!
Teams in small names and strikethrough can no longer overtake Stoke.
RED = lost AMBER = Drawn GREEN = Won
Stoke: 53 pts Wigan Athletic A Barnsley H Leeds United A Birmingham City H Bristol City A Brentford H Nottingham Forest A
GD: -9
| Charlton: 48 pts Cardiff City A Millwall H Brentford A Reading H Birmingham City A Wigan Athletic H Leeds United A
GD: -11
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Middlesbrough: 50pts Hull City A Queens Park Rangers H Millwall A Bristol City H Reading A Cardiff City H Sheffield Wednesday A
GD: -14
| Hull City: 45 pts Middlesbrough H West Bromwich Albion A Bristol City A Millwall H Wigan Athletic A Luton Town H Cardiff City A
GD: -27
| Huddersfield: 51 pts Nottingham Forest A Birmingham City A Preston North End H Reading A Luton Town H Sheffield Wednesday A West Bromwich Albion H Millwall A
GD: -15
| Luton Town: 48 pts Leeds United A Reading H Barnsley H Huddersfield A Queens Park Rangers H Hull City A Blackburn Rovers H
GD: -29
| Barnsley: 46 pts Blackburn Rovers H Stoke City A Luton Town A Wigan Athletic H Leeds United A Nottingham Forest H Brentford A
GD: -21
| Wigan Athletic: 46 pts* Stoke City H Brentford A Queens Park Rangers H Barnsley A Hull City H Charlton A Fulham H * Subject to league rulings
GD: +1
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Birmingham: 50 pts Stoke City A Charlton Athletic H Preston North End A Derby County H
GD: -19
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Looking at that lot I'd say there's very little in it, what I see is Luton have to play some very out of form teams and could well pull off a miracle. Barnsley look to have a horror final 4 games and I'd not want to swap that. Before today I'd also say that Hull would not got another point, but those sort of predictions seem wide of the mark. Updated following today's outcome(s)
Adding Chrispk match summary (updated): Middlesborough have 1 v bottom 11
Wigan have 0 v bottom 11
Charlton have 0 v bottom 11
Birmingham have 0 v bottom 11
Huddersfield have 0 v bottom 11 Barnsley have 0 v bottom 11 Luton have 0 games v bottom 11 Hull have 0 v bottom 11
Stoke have 0 v bottom 11
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Post by chrispk on Jun 28, 2020 0:45:51 GMT
Charlton have 3 v bottom 11 Barnsley have 3 v bottom 11 Stoke have 3 v bottom 11 Hull have 3 v bottom 11
Middlesborough 4 v bottom 11 Huddersfield 4 v bottom 11
Luton get to play 5 games v bottom 11
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 28, 2020 1:20:23 GMT
After a showing like that itâs hard imagine ever winning another game again ever.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jun 28, 2020 6:19:10 GMT
Iâm even more worried about mad Nathâs Luton getting out of it now after seeing their fixtures.
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Post by potterpaul on Jun 28, 2020 6:43:08 GMT
The only positive is that home and away games mean nothing. We've just lost what little advantage we had, an advantage a rookie championship manager needs at this end of season. Just hope he's up to it.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 28, 2020 7:13:50 GMT
Iâm even more worried about mad Nathâs Luton getting out of it now after seeing their fixtures. Been guaranteed since the day he was appointed. , the only tiny mercy might be his public response to anyone who said we now have a proper manager after he left and one in particular , it will certainly provide , even more evidence for the prosecution case that the 4 managers held accountsbke for failure , no doubt soon to be 5 , may not be the sole cause of our decline and I might be worth a look elsewhere .
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 3, 2020 9:34:08 GMT
Updated with latest results, I'll see how long I can carry on with this!
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 3, 2020 9:39:27 GMT
Iâm even more worried about mad Nathâs Luton getting out of it now after seeing their fixtures. Luton will stay up. I'm 100% sure, they have momentum with them and the best set of fixtures.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 3, 2020 9:51:08 GMT
Iâm even more worried about mad Nathâs Luton getting out of it now after seeing their fixtures. Luton will stay up. I'm 100% sure, they have momentum with them and the best set of fixtures. Agreed, anyone who can drag a point out of Yerksheer quite frankly deserves to stay up.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 3, 2020 10:03:31 GMT
Iâm even more worried about mad Nathâs Luton getting out of it now after seeing their fixtures. Luton will stay up. I'm 100% sure, they have momentum with them and the best set of fixtures. Having been relegated from the Premier League when Hughes kept Southampton up, Jones keeping Luton up and us going down would be an absolute hammer blow but very typically Stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 11:24:33 GMT
Good format and easy to read. Any chance you can add current points total next to team name in black? Wigan might need throwing in there too. Good thread.
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 3, 2020 12:26:48 GMT
Iâm even more worried about mad Nathâs Luton getting out of it now after seeing their fixtures. Luton will stay up. I'm 100% sure, they have momentum with them and the best set of fixtures. But a shocking goal difference
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 3, 2020 12:27:58 GMT
Cannot call any of these games, week by week is going to throw some unexpected results, we can just keep hoping that our team actually switch on at some point
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Post by rorystowel on Jul 3, 2020 12:33:50 GMT
We need to beat Barnsley and Brum. Weâll be lucky to pick up a single point from the other games.
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Post by malisastokie on Jul 3, 2020 12:33:57 GMT
If you were to look at our games under MON we should bounce back and stay up.
But
I don't know what has happened since Reading but it is horrific what ever it is.
I fear we won't win another game based on Tuesday night.
I will be watching and hoping I am wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 12:45:05 GMT
I am really hoping MoN wasn't pressured into playing Butland
For me, MoN tried to turn the tide , had some success here and there , but the one thing I don't get is butland between the sticks
Why on earth , would you go with a goalie who has saved 57 per cent of shots on goal in the championship this season ( butland ) over one who has saved 71 per cent of shots on target in the championship this season ( federici ) . It's just rediculous .There is literally no sense in that .
The points butland has cost us would have seen is safe
If it's MoN's own mistake , fair enough.
If he has been Influenced , then it's a scandal
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 3, 2020 12:46:49 GMT
Good format and easy to read. Any chance you can add current points total next to team name in black? Wigan might need throwing in there too. Good thread. Good suggestions Dan, and now complete. Again any mistakes comment here.
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 3, 2020 12:52:00 GMT
Good format and easy to read. Any chance you can add current points total next to team name in black? Wigan might need throwing in there too. Good thread. Good suggestions Dan, and now complete. Again any mistakes comment here. Can we have the colours and points change dynamically in real time as the goals go in? đ Seriously though, appreciate the effort here. Good stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 13:26:14 GMT
Good format and easy to read. Any chance you can add current points total next to team name in black? Wigan might need throwing in there too. Good thread. Good suggestions Dan, and now complete. Again any mistakes comment here. Superb stuff mate!
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Post by jayscfc1863 on Jul 3, 2020 13:50:26 GMT
I am really hoping MoN wasn't pressured into playing Butland For me, MoN tried to turn the tide , had some success here and there , but the one thing I don't get is butland between the sticks Why on earth , would you go with a goalie who has saved 57 per cent of shots on goal in the championship this season ( butland ) over one who has saved 71 per cent of shots on target in the championship this season ( federici ) . It's just rediculous .There is literally no sense in that . The points butland has cost us would have seen is safe If it's MoN's own mistake , fair enough. If he has been Influenced , then it's a scandal Pretty sure Feds left as soon as the season "ended" as he didnt fancy the commute to not even make the bench?
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Post by timbstoke on Jul 3, 2020 14:20:36 GMT
Wigan points deduction only applies at the end of the season, and only if they don't get relegated on their own. That means it only helps us if a) we finish in 22nd, and b) we're less than 12 points behind them. Also, we're not finishing top 6 this season.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 3, 2020 16:41:06 GMT
For simplicity I've deducted 12 points, as that is practically what it means. They won't get relegated on their own, so it's pretty much a given the -12 will come into play.
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Post by lordb on Jul 3, 2020 18:23:51 GMT
I am really hoping MoN wasn't pressured into playing Butland For me, MoN tried to turn the tide , had some success here and there , but the one thing I don't get is butland between the sticks Why on earth , would you go with a goalie who has saved 57 per cent of shots on goal in the championship this season ( butland ) over one who has saved 71 per cent of shots on target in the championship this season ( federici ) . It's just rediculous .There is literally no sense in that . The points butland has cost us would have seen is safe If it's MoN's own mistake , fair enough. If he has been Influenced , then it's a scandal He may have been influenced by reputation. If you think someone else has influenced him (Coates?Scholes?Fergus the Bogeyman?) That seems silly.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 5, 2020 16:18:09 GMT
Now updated and it's a joy when we get weekends like this one. Obviously the next huge game is Luton vs Barnsley, ideally a draw would be great.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 5, 2020 16:23:23 GMT
Now updated and it's a joy when we get weekends like this one. Obviously the next huge game is Luton vs Barnsley, ideally a draw would be great. Middlesbrough and Huddersfield look to have the âeasierâ remaining matches Youâd think we absolutely have to beat one of Bristol and Birmingham
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 18:04:32 GMT
I did the predict league and went tough on us. We were fine but I oddly got Birmingham bottom 3. To be fair I gave the teams below us the benefit of a few results
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 5, 2020 21:46:57 GMT
Now updated and it's a joy when we get weekends like this one. Obviously the next huge game is Luton vs Barnsley, ideally a draw would be great. Middlesbrough and Huddersfield look to have the âeasierâ remaining matches Youâd think we absolutely have to beat one of Bristol and Birmingham Cant predict any games anymore. I thought boro would turn qpr over at their place today and the warnock bounce didnt turn up again. Hull played really well and lost, thank god. Just cannot call this, i am just praying we are safe before the last game. Does anyone have any idea of when we could be safe, if we do survive
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 8, 2020 19:14:57 GMT
Now updated after the latest chunk of games. It's a warm welcome to the Blues to the list.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 19:48:03 GMT
Hudders v Luton a massive game. I think if Luton lose they can kiss goodbye
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Post by jeycov on Jul 8, 2020 19:49:32 GMT
Middlesbrough and Huddersfield look to have the âeasierâ remaining matches Youâd think we absolutely have to beat one of Bristol and Birmingham Cant predict any games anymore. I thought boro would turn qpr over at their place today and the warnock bounce didnt turn up again. Hull played really well and lost, thank god. Just cannot call this, i am just praying we are safe before the last game. Does anyone have any idea of when we could be safe, if we do survive Tall order - win the next 2 games and we should be safe, a win and a draw would take us to 50 which just might be enough
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