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Post by Goonie on Jun 27, 2020 17:22:18 GMT
I blame the crowd not being behind them today
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Post by pistol on Jun 27, 2020 18:04:48 GMT
Everyone at the top level of this club should hang their heads in shame at how far we have fallen in the last four years. A series of comedy managerial appointments as a result of now forward planning whatsoever has left us on the edge of the void. A relegation would be disastrous for us financially. I just want to grab someone/Scholes by the neck and shake him
Where are our leaders. We are the ultimate drifting team and every single fan, once Warnock was appointed, could see what was coming today.
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Post by mark on Jun 27, 2020 18:16:28 GMT
I think we've managed to assemble the shittest £100 million squad in football history.
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Post by sheds1862 on Jun 27, 2020 18:18:04 GMT
I think we've managed to assemble the shittest £100 million squad in football history. Surely that had to of been QPR
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 27, 2020 18:20:00 GMT
I’m fairly confident we will be relegated.
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Post by loosestools on Jun 27, 2020 18:20:21 GMT
I think we've managed to assemble the shittest £100 million squad in football history. Surely that had to of been QPR No mate, its Stoke.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 27, 2020 18:28:13 GMT
I’m fairly confident we will be relegated. I’m very confident your right and it’s so predictable
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Post by chigstoke on Jun 27, 2020 18:31:16 GMT
If we go down, we are bloody lucky that FFP has been suspended for 12 months.
No doubting we will need a mass exodus of playing staff and a huge rejig on an upstairs level, but offers a tiny financial reprieve from the hard hit we'd have. We can't afford barely any of these wasters in L1 and we don't want most of them anyway.
FFP or no FFP, starting next season in League 1 will be destructive for this club. And I certainly think it will take a long time for us to recover. And just as we'd discussed after the match against Millwall before Jones was sacked, the potential of sliding down another division after that isn't too bloody far fetched an idea. Tuesday has now becomes the biggest day in the clubs recent history. Lose that and we are done. Win and gives the opportunity of using the game as a platform. The question is, do this lot have it in them? I think we know the answer to that one going off of last weeks and today's showings.
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Post by timehascome on Jun 27, 2020 19:32:16 GMT
oneil came too late. we needed oneil and rowett 18 months ago.
we needed pulis back 2 years ago.
we needed hughes and coates gone 3 years ago.
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Post by chigstoke on Jun 27, 2020 19:47:27 GMT
oneil came too late. we needed oneil and rowett 18 months ago. we needed pulis back 2 years ago. we needed hughes and coates gone 3 years ago. O'Neill came too late. we needed O'Neill and Rowett 18 months ago. - Rowett was here 2 years ago We needed Pulis back 2 years ago. - No we didn't . We needed Hughes and Coates gone 3 years ago. - Hughes yes, but Coates? No doubting the owners are to have some blame for where we find ourselves now, but not Coates gone surely.
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Post by rockthecity on Jun 27, 2020 20:07:15 GMT
I personally think we are on the edge, hopefully 3 other teams are worse than us
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Post by boothenender on Jun 27, 2020 20:12:25 GMT
I blame Boris Johnson and Co. They should have ended this season and just restarted fresh when Covid19 is gone from these shores. I do agree with the OP we are up shit creek without a paddle and a big funking hole in the bottom of our canoe.
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Post by timehascome on Jun 27, 2020 20:15:22 GMT
oneil came too late. we needed oneil and rowett 18 months ago. we needed pulis back 2 years ago. we needed hughes and coates gone 3 years ago. O'Neill came too late. we needed O'Neill and Rowett 18 months ago. - Rowett was here 2 years ago We needed Pulis back 2 years ago. - No we didn't . We needed Hughes and Coates gone 3 years ago. - Hughes yes, but Coates? No doubting the owners are to have some blame for where we find ourselves now, but not Coates gone surely.my opinion should not of got rid of rowett. pulis could of kept us up. then we get european manager to keep us in premier league
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 27, 2020 20:17:38 GMT
Can only agree with the thrust of Rob's tweetstorm, so it must unfortunately be a BIG FAT ZERO for MON. Plot well and truly lost. Trying to be too clever by half, and that normally ends badly. He seems to have completely lost the plot during lockdown. It's like we're currently being managed by his evil twin brother, Humphrey O'Neill He's got it spot on, it was clear as soon as MON came through the door he wanted to play 4-3-3/4-5-1 even though it doesn't work, and for some reason after starting to get it right he's gone back to it and guess what it isn't working, the players have been poor since the restart the managers been no better.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 27, 2020 20:18:50 GMT
I know I'm about to get slaughtered but they fucked this club the moment Paul Lambert walk through the door. A cheap ass appointment lacking in any ambition and cemented our relegation.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 27, 2020 20:28:58 GMT
Owners and fans getting what they deserve.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 20:29:40 GMT
Owners and fans getting what they deserve. Fans? What do they deserve and why?
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Post by chigstoke on Jun 27, 2020 20:32:20 GMT
I know I'm about to get slaughtered but they fucked this club the moment Paul Lambert walk through the door. A cheap ass appointment lacking in any ambition and cemented our relegation. You're hardly going to get slaughtered mate. There isn't a single fan who surely wanted Lambert in. Never mind finding out we were going to appoint him! It was a complete panic appointment. QSF didn't happen. Moyes didn't happen. Martin O'Neill didn't happen. Big Sam didn't. 4 linked names that came to nothing, 4 people who IMO I reckon would've had a better stab at it than Lambert. There was a reason he was milling around in the bottom of the Championship with Blackburn and Wolves. Because any sane club knew he was shit.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 27, 2020 20:37:45 GMT
I know I'm about to get slaughtered but they fucked this club the moment Paul Lambert walk through the door. A cheap ass appointment lacking in any ambition and cemented our relegation. You're hardly going to get slaughtered mate. There isn't a single fan who surely wanted Lambert in. Never mind finding out we were going to appoint him! It was a complete panic appointment. QSF didn't happen. Moyes didn't happen. Martin O'Neill didn't happen. Big Sam didn't. 4 linked names that came to nothing, 4 people who IMO I reckon would've had a better stab at it than Lambert. There was a reason he was milling around in the bottom of the Championship with Blackburn and Wolves. Because any sane club knew he was shit. I felt at the time we missed a chance to aim high but as you say it was a panic appointment.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 27, 2020 20:43:23 GMT
Owners and fans getting what they deserve. Fans? What do they deserve and why? We have fans who can't wait to stick the boot in, predict doom and gloom and revel in it when it happens.
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Post by chigstoke on Jun 27, 2020 20:44:11 GMT
You're hardly going to get slaughtered mate. There isn't a single fan who surely wanted Lambert in. Never mind finding out we were going to appoint him! It was a complete panic appointment. QSF didn't happen. Moyes didn't happen. Martin O'Neill didn't happen. Big Sam didn't. 4 linked names that came to nothing, 4 people who IMO I reckon would've had a better stab at it than Lambert. There was a reason he was milling around in the bottom of the Championship with Blackburn and Wolves. Because any sane club knew he was shit. I felt at the time we missed a chance to aim high but as you say it was a panic appointment. None of the linked names at the time were really aiming high sadly. QSF was the one Alan Nixon touted as being the 'top European manager' we were linked with, after Rafa had recommended him. We were linked with Rowett and Potter too. And from the moment we missed out on QSF I had a sinking feeling we were going to cheap out and panic, lo and behold...
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Post by Godo on Jun 27, 2020 20:50:40 GMT
If we were able to sign members of our current squad as frees on average wages how many would you sign? I'd say about 5 out of the dismal lot of them. How many teams have we played against who have solid pros in all/most positions? I can't think of any as unbalanced as we look 70% of the time. Even setting aside teams like Leeds and Brentford how many teams have featured at least some players with pace and technical know how? I cant think of anyone in our team who most opposition players would be overly concerned about! We have spent £millions and we have maybe 5 or 6 in the entire squad who are good enough and have the necessary levels of application, determination and professionalism. No left back, 3 substandard CB's, disloyal wasters out on loan, nobody who looks capable of scoring double figures, no pace, no guile, limited skill and not even someone who can kick start a game by putting a biting tackle in (even Boro had 3 today).....erm so yes we are fucked and financially who knows where this will all end.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jun 27, 2020 20:53:07 GMT
I know I'm about to get slaughtered but they fucked this club the moment Paul Lambert walk through the door. A cheap ass appointment lacking in any ambition and cemented our relegation. Agree - but it was more the timing than who it was - Hughes should have gone earlier in the season - for me after the Bournemouth defeat - the flukey win at Watford a week later saved his bacon but they dithered around Christmas then sacked him after the Coventry FA cup defeat when it was too late for ANY new incumbent to make any difference and we should have bit the bullet and let Hughes stay till the end of the season - and I actually think he would have scraped us home....... The rest is history and a fucking sad & sorry history at that........
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 27, 2020 20:54:34 GMT
I felt at the time we missed a chance to aim high but as you say it was a panic appointment. None of the linked names at the time were really aiming high sadly. QSF was the one Alan Nixon touted as being the 'top European manager' we were linked with, after Rafa had recommended him. We were linked with Rowett and Potter too. And from the moment we missed out on QSF I had a sinking feeling we were going to cheap out and panic, lo and behold... I thought they looked in the wrong pond and I said so at the time my list of candidates would not have even had them in the top ten. We had a half decent side with very wealthy owners who could have offered a top class guy 10million to keep us up no strings attached stay up and we'll talk long term we go down you leave with millions in the bank. Given we wasted millions of players who hardly played or never wanted to play from day one it was a risk I would have taken. Ancelotti would have been one of my list I'm not sure Everton were much better than us at the time and he rocked up there 🤷♂️
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Jun 27, 2020 21:03:39 GMT
None of the linked names at the time were really aiming high sadly. QSF was the one Alan Nixon touted as being the 'top European manager' we were linked with, after Rafa had recommended him. We were linked with Rowett and Potter too. And from the moment we missed out on QSF I had a sinking feeling we were going to cheap out and panic, lo and behold... I thought they looked in the wrong pond and I said so at the time my list of candidates would not have even had them in the top ten. We had a half decent side with very wealthy owners who could have offered a top class guy 10million to keep us up no strings attached stay up and we'll talk long term we go down you leave with millions in the bank. Given we wasted millions of players who hardly played or never wanted to play from day one it was a risk I would have taken. Ancelotti would have been one of my list I'm not sure Everton were much better than us at the time and he rocked up there 🤷♂️ I think Ancelotti was manager of Bayern Munich at the time mate, It's unlikely he would have given that job up to fight our relegation battle.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 21:13:33 GMT
That can't be right mate. He's wank apparently and offers nothing, oh and he's one of the main reasons why we are in the state we are in
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Post by hogansgoals on Jun 27, 2020 21:38:44 GMT
I’m not panicking just yet as I still believe that 3 wins will be enough. I’m a lot more concerned than I was 8 days ago though. God knows what’s happened to the manager over the break but he’s gone from keeping things very simple to a Nathan Jones level of fuckaboutery. We’ve got to win Tuesday now, just to settle things down. It's now 3 wins from 7 games though. 3 from 9 seemed do'able. 3 from 7 less so. two wins and three draws.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jun 27, 2020 21:39:15 GMT
That can't be right mate. He's wank apparently and offers nothing, oh and he's one of the main reasons why we are in the state we are in It’s ridiculous mate. He might not have lived up to the standards that some people had expected. But fuck me anyone with half a brain could tell he is light years ahead of any other midfielder we’ve got. People have been crying for him to be dropped when we’ve got dumb and dumber (Cousins and Thompson) to step in.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 27, 2020 21:59:55 GMT
It's now 3 wins from 7 games though. 3 from 9 seemed do'able. 3 from 7 less so. two wins and three draws. 2 defeats in 7 seems even more unlikely
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Post by stokemark on Jun 27, 2020 22:13:05 GMT
Fans? What do they deserve and why? We have fans who can't wait to stick the boot in, predict doom and gloom and revel in it when it happens. That's bollocks but then you've always been a massive wind up merchant haven't you
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