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Post by mallorcanstokie on Jul 7, 2020 7:49:43 GMT
Great film and showed Stoke in a positive light and what a character Nello is, but needed certain people to enable him to do those things, Lou really was a star giving him the platform at Stoke and Malcolm for being such a good friend. good watch....
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jul 7, 2020 10:07:58 GMT
Top drawer stuff indeed and all the more poignant if you're from S-o-T and clock the various locations of course.
While TJ is excellent as Nello, the one thing I would have perhaps coached him on a bit more Malcolm Clarke (if you ever got the opportunity that is) was his accent. For me, not the full throttle Stokie it might have been?
That said, maybe that the direction was to tone it down somewhat to make it more comprehensible to all the poor souls in this land that, unfortunately for them, are not from Stoke?
p.s. Have you still got the mini metro? I didn't get the opportunity. We could watch the filming - but not interfere. Julian, the Director, was very firmly in charge. They did have a "voice coach" who worked with all the actors including Toby. But bear in mind that although Neil has a distinctive deep voice, I don't think his potteries accent is particularly strong. Those who are old enough might remember "Clayhanger" being on TV years ago. The attempts at the potteries accent were so awful I found it almost unwatchable. There was one amusing moment when the real Lou said to Tony Curran, who was playing him - " have you any advice on how I should say my lines", to which Tony replied " I'm playing you, Lou - you should be telling me, not the other way round " As well as a voice coach, they also had a guy called a "football choreographer" ( a job I'd certainly never heard of) who specialises in coaching actors who don't play football in what to do in the on-field shots. Nice work if you can get it !! It wasn't actually a Metro - it was a DAF. Remember them ? Little dutch cars - automatics with a unique gear system - continuously variable with a rubber band (literally) around a cone. It was my first car and I learned to drive and passed my test on it, so to this day I am only qualified to drive automatics and have never driven a manual. They probably couldn't source an old DAF for the film. Metro probably the next best thing !
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 7, 2020 10:50:41 GMT
Top drawer stuff indeed and all the more poignant if you're from S-o-T and clock the various locations of course.
While TJ is excellent as Nello, the one thing I would have perhaps coached him on a bit more Malcolm Clarke (if you ever got the opportunity that is) was his accent. For me, not the full throttle Stokie it might have been?
That said, maybe that the direction was to tone it down somewhat to make it more comprehensible to all the poor souls in this land that, unfortunately for them, are not from Stoke?
p.s. Have you still got the mini metro? I didn't get the opportunity. We could watch the filming - but not interfere. Julian, the Director, was very firmly in charge. They did have a "voice coach" who worked with all the actors including Toby. But bear in mind that although Neil has a distinctive deep voice, I don't think his potteries accent is particularly strong. Those who are old enough might remember "Clayhanger" being on TV years ago. The attempts at the potteries accent were so awful I found it almost unwatchable. There was one amusing moment when the real Lou said to Tony Curran, who was playing him - " have you any advice on how I should say my lines", to which Tony replied " I'm playing you, Lou - you should be telling me, not the other way round " As well as a voice coach, they also had a guy called a "football choreographer" ( a job I'd certainly never heard of) who specialises in coaching actors who don't play football in what to do in the on-field shots. Nice work if you can get it !! It wasn't actually a Metro - it was a DAF. Remember them ? Little dutch cars - automatics with a unique gear system - continuously variable with a rubber band (literally) around a cone. It was my first car and I learned to drive and passed my test on it, so to this day I am only qualified to drive automatics and have never driven a manual. They probably couldn't source an old DAF for the film. Metro probably the next best thing ! I guess you're right about Neil's (Toby's) dialect - I don't know him to judge him on the full-on-up-Hanley-duck scale but perhaps better and more expedient for production etc to do 'acceptable' (albeit there are twangs) over 'full-on' and get it horribly wrong a la Clayhanger.
(I didn't ever watch it but can well imgaine and will take your word for it.)
I think there's probably a very good reason they coudn't source a Daf for complete authenticity in automotive terms though - they must be up there with a Trabant as the worst cars of the seventies, no question. I would find it hard to believe there's still one knocking around, let alone one able to drive even 30 yards for film shoot.
Never too late to go through the gears though Malcom !
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jul 7, 2020 11:35:58 GMT
I didn't get the opportunity. We could watch the filming - but not interfere. Julian, the Director, was very firmly in charge. They did have a "voice coach" who worked with all the actors including Toby. But bear in mind that although Neil has a distinctive deep voice, I don't think his potteries accent is particularly strong. Those who are old enough might remember "Clayhanger" being on TV years ago. The attempts at the potteries accent were so awful I found it almost unwatchable. There was one amusing moment when the real Lou said to Tony Curran, who was playing him - " have you any advice on how I should say my lines", to which Tony replied " I'm playing you, Lou - you should be telling me, not the other way round " As well as a voice coach, they also had a guy called a "football choreographer" ( a job I'd certainly never heard of) who specialises in coaching actors who don't play football in what to do in the on-field shots. Nice work if you can get it !! It wasn't actually a Metro - it was a DAF. Remember them ? Little dutch cars - automatics with a unique gear system - continuously variable with a rubber band (literally) around a cone. It was my first car and I learned to drive and passed my test on it, so to this day I am only qualified to drive automatics and have never driven a manual. They probably couldn't source an old DAF for the film. Metro probably the next best thing ! I guess you're right about Neil's (Toby's) dialect - I don't know him to judge him on the full-on-up-Hanley-duck scale but perhaps better and more expedient for production etc to do 'acceptable' (albeit there are twangs) over 'full-on' and get it horribly wrong a la Clayhanger.
(I didn't ever watch it but can well imgaine and will take your word for it.)
I think there's probably a very good reason they coudn't source a Daf for complete authenticity in automotive terms though - they must be up there with a Trabant as the worst cars of the seventies, no question. I would find it hard to believe there's still one knocking around, let alone one able to drive even 30 yards for film shoot.
Never too late to go through the gears though Malcom !
To be fair I don’t recall much trouble with my DAF - in fact I replaced it with another one ! It did however sound like I was driving a sewing machine. Unusual engine noise as you accelerated.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 7, 2020 11:43:18 GMT
for information got two west ham fans to watch it they thought it was brilliant
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 28, 2020 17:15:31 GMT
for information got two west ham fans to watch it they thought it was brilliant I'm on the 1st day of my holiday and a sheff utd fan asked me if I'd seen it having seen my kids in stoke kits. Chatted for over an hour about it, nello, lou macari and malcolm clarke. Main gist of questions were "is it true". He said it was amazing, made him cry and made him want to be a stoke fan. Turns out he was a goalkeeper for huddersfield in the 70's and he ended up playing keepers in the pool with my little one who is also keeper mad
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Post by pretzel on Jul 28, 2020 19:51:55 GMT
for information got two west ham fans to watch it they thought it was brilliant I managed to get a couple of friends to watch who are Liverpool and Derby fans respectively. It seemed incredible to me that neither had heard a thing about it beforehand but both really enjoyed the drama and said they were recommending their friends to watch it on iplayer
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