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Apr 10, 2021 8:47:15 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 10, 2021 8:47:15 GMT
So I made it to the co op, so thankfully the temptation of alcohol was removed. The Avenue is still cordoned off with a police presence still, they appear to be interviewing people. What shifts at the Co-Op are they interviewing for? My Mrs can do afternoons When can she start?
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Apr 10, 2021 8:48:45 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Apr 10, 2021 8:48:45 GMT
This is a huge fear in respect to people not towing the line particularly if they’re in a family setup who are happy to make other people’s lives a misery with their behaviour. Those involved in ASB know that worst case scenario they’ll just be moved elsewhere to cause problems for someone else. If there was a genuine threat of homelesness they might just toe the line. The organisation responsible for placing them won't have much teeth. All the executives and directors are interested in is the next contract for the business that will keep them in their £80k a year, gold plated pension, company car, essential user and mileage allowance position. All whilst extolling the virtues of working for a 'charitable' organisation to the staff, who have to deal with the reality of their 'customers' on a daily basis, whilst sucking up the latest pay freeze.
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Apr 10, 2021 8:52:46 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 10, 2021 8:52:46 GMT
This is a huge fear in respect to people not towing the line particularly if they’re in a family setup who are happy to make other people’s lives a misery with their behaviour. Those involved in ASB know that worst case scenario they’ll just be moved elsewhere to cause problems for someone else. If there was a genuine threat of homelesness they might just toe the line. The organisation responsible for placing them won't have much teeth. All the executives and directors are interested in is the next contract for the business that will keep them in their £80k a year, gold plated pension, company car, essential user and mileage allowance position. All whilst extolling the virtues of working for a 'charitable' organisation to the staff, who have to deal with the reality of their 'customers' on a daily basis, whilst sucking up the latest pay freeze. It’s very wrong. Always seems very easy to move them in but damn difficult to evict them when they start playing up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 8:54:35 GMT
What shifts at the Co-Op are they interviewing for? My Mrs can do afternoons When can she start? After 'Cash in the Attic'. Did you mention her mushroom allergy?
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Apr 10, 2021 8:56:25 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 10, 2021 8:56:25 GMT
After 'Cash in the Attic'. Did you mention her mushroom allergy? Yes they’re removing them from the store along with all the essential items they don’t seem to stock these days.
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Apr 10, 2021 8:59:06 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 10, 2021 8:59:06 GMT
The organisation responsible for placing them won't have much teeth. All the executives and directors are interested in is the next contract for the business that will keep them in their £80k a year, gold plated pension, company car, essential user and mileage allowance position. All whilst extolling the virtues of working for a 'charitable' organisation to the staff, who have to deal with the reality of their 'customers' on a daily basis, whilst sucking up the latest pay freeze. It’s very wrong. Always seems very easy to move them in but damn difficult to evict them when they start playing up. There’s a large house at the end of my street which seems to be housing around 10 unsavoury characters of Eastern European descent.
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Apr 10, 2021 9:03:26 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 10, 2021 9:03:26 GMT
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Apr 10, 2021 9:34:27 GMT
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Post by danceswithclams on Apr 10, 2021 9:34:27 GMT
Some really credible, robust, and not at all irresponsible reporting there from our highly respected local paper. Third par: Staffordshire Police are yet to release any information about the incident. Then straight into: One eyewitness* said: "There's been a stabbing in Hartshill, cops are everywhere!" A StokeonTrentLive reader said: "I've been informed there's been a stabbing outside of The Co-op. "Please everybody be careful. I thought Hartshill was mostly safe." Uncorroborated bollocks as usual based on heresay or, even worse, completely fabricated by The Sent*nel itself. Sensationalist fucking shite of the highest order. It's done its job though hasn't it as we're already talking about how that area 'has gone downhill' etc? Fuck The Sent*nel *it's not an eyewitness is it? This person has not witnessed anything, and if they had, they'd be giving a statement to the police and the police would have heavily suggested that they do not talk to the media. This is a bystander, not an eyewitness (albeit one that is most likely entirely fictional)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 9:40:12 GMT
And some fools have pitched a tent there now
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 10, 2021 10:19:13 GMT
It’s very wrong. Always seems very easy to move them in but damn difficult to evict them when they start playing up. There’s a large house at the end of my street which seems to be housing around 10 unsavoury characters of Eastern European descent. momo won't like this
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Apr 10, 2021 10:26:37 GMT
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Post by Dutchpeter on Apr 10, 2021 10:26:37 GMT
There was two stabbings close to where I live yesterday and close to the bottom end of the Avenue. Coincidence? There was also a stabbing in my street last Saturday. We suspect why these have occurred but obviously not a good idea to air those views. I read somewhere that crime is at an all time low, it certainly doesn’t feel like that at the moment.
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Apr 10, 2021 11:17:40 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 10, 2021 11:17:40 GMT
Though any life lost is awful it does seem that it’s still very unlikely and rare that if your someone minding your own business you’re still very unlikely to be a victim. However it’s still very unnerving and worrying when your living amongst all these tragic incidents. Somewhere down the line something big has to change the way things are going at a very early stage in those involved’s lives. - More kids being taken away from homes where parents don’t parent. - More positive engagement at a younger age. - stiffer sentences. - letting police police and do their job.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 25, 2021 16:14:45 GMT
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Post by mattyd2 on Apr 25, 2021 16:51:42 GMT
There’s a large house at the end of my street which seems to be housing around 10 unsavoury characters of Eastern European descent. momo won't like this Too right he won't. 10 is such a waste of valuable space, could get at least a dozen more in there init bro.
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Apr 26, 2021 13:03:41 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 26, 2021 13:03:41 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 26, 2021 15:06:13 GMT
absolutely disgusting. Bad parenting is the single biggest reason for kids turning out like this character. What the hell crossed her mind to give him a lift. Parents are there to protect and keep safe their kids. very sad. RIP young man.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 26, 2021 15:45:48 GMT
absolutely disgusting. Bad parenting is the single biggest reason for kids turning out like this character. What the hell crossed her mind to give him a lift. Parents are there to protect and keep safe their kids. very sad. RIP young man. Absolute and utter scum of the earth they should swing including the mother.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 26, 2021 19:07:52 GMT
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Post by zelem on Apr 26, 2021 19:58:35 GMT
I will challenge anyone to pick up any daily newspaper on any day and not to find a story about knife crime! This has been going on for more than a couple of years. You can walk round with your heads in the clouds, take the knee or keep saying this is all fake news however a lot of people wont wake up until it catches up and comes to bite them on the backsides!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 26, 2021 20:08:21 GMT
I will challenge anyone to pick up any daily newspaper on any day and not to find a story about knife crime! This has been going on for more than a couple of years. You can walk round with your heads in the clouds, take the knee or keep saying this is all fake news however a lot of people wont wake up until it catches up and comes to bite them on the backsides! In the case of London certain politicians have blood on their hands because they’re turning stop/search into a race issue when it’s clear from reading the news and hearing the names of those involved that this is an issue amongst young black lads. Until officers are allowed to search anyone regardless of colour if they have grounds the rise in stabbings will continue if not worsen.
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Apr 27, 2021 7:14:41 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Apr 27, 2021 7:14:41 GMT
I will challenge anyone to pick up any daily newspaper on any day and not to find a story about knife crime! This has been going on for more than a couple of years. You can walk round with your heads in the clouds, take the knee or keep saying this is all fake news however a lot of people wont wake up until it catches up and comes to bite them on the backsides! In the case of London certain politicians have blood on their hands because they’re turning stop/search into a race issue when it’s clear from reading the news and hearing the names of those involved that this is an issue amongst young black lads. Until officers are allowed to search anyone regardless of colour if they have grounds the rise in stabbings will continue if not worsen. Last thing we need is to afford more powers to the police. There has to be a better way.
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Apr 27, 2021 13:42:26 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 27, 2021 13:42:26 GMT
In the case of London certain politicians have blood on their hands because they’re turning stop/search into a race issue when it’s clear from reading the news and hearing the names of those involved that this is an issue amongst young black lads. Until officers are allowed to search anyone regardless of colour if they have grounds the rise in stabbings will continue if not worsen. Last thing we need is to afford more powers to the police. There has to be a better way. Well something has to change long term re neighbourhood policing but that takes time. Short term stop and search is the only option because at least that way those carrying knives will at least be identified. It’s not an extension of powers it’s just them being allowed to do their job.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 27, 2021 14:14:42 GMT
In the case of London certain politicians have blood on their hands because they’re turning stop/search into a race issue when it’s clear from reading the news and hearing the names of those involved that this is an issue amongst young black lads. Until officers are allowed to search anyone regardless of colour if they have grounds the rise in stabbings will continue if not worsen. Last thing we need is to afford more powers to the police. There has to be a better way. Long term there indeed must be better ways. Through better education and providing more opportunity for youth etc. But reducing police powers in the short term is a recipe for disaster. This belief that the police are only bad has to stop infecting our way of thinking. Imagine the chaos with no police.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 27, 2021 15:43:44 GMT
Last thing we need is to afford more powers to the police. There has to be a better way. Well something has to change long term re neighbourhood policing but that takes time. Short term stop and search is the only option because at least that way those carrying knives will at least be identified. It’s not an extension of powers it’s just them being allowed to do their job. What needs to change is that those who continue to commit these horrific crimes are actually punished accordingly, regardless of mitigating factors such as age.... We need to let kids know that this behaviour is no fucking acceptable and if you stab someone, you are essentially committing an attempted murder. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/18940037.man-jailed-16-years-stabbing-left-victim-life-threatening-injury/This little fucker will be out in 8 years. It's quite clear that he was looking for a scrap and then wanted to murder the man in question. 8 years? Fuck off. Put him behind bars for 20. Last thing we need is to afford more powers to the police. There has to be a better way. Long term there indeed must be better ways. Through better education and providing more opportunity for youth etc. But reducing police powers in the short term is a recipe for disaster. This belief that the police are only bad has to stop infecting our way of thinking. Imagine the chaos with no police. The problem is, you'll be giving an already ineffective group of individuals even more power. Think of it like this, you employee a cleaner who mops up sick and cleans the toilets and he is pretty piss poor at that job. He keeps slipping over and rolling around in filth. You wouldn't extend his duties to also re-stocking the drinks in the canteen fridge would you? The police are just like that cleaner, rolling around in their own shit ineffectiveness. Like I said, if we actually had some bollocks and conducted the independent evaluation, that I truly believe is necessary to ensure the police are fit for purpose, then we could confidently up their powers in time of need, such as this. Look around you. Public trust in the police is at an all time low. Can you blame them? People peacefully gathering for a vigil and Seargent Bob comes weighing in with a baton and smashes some girl in the face. You give them more power to abuse, god help us when they fucking abuse it. You'll have them perform 'random searches' down women's underpants if you're not careful. Fixing the police isn't going to happen overnight, but giving them more powers right now would be a fucking disaster. Give the offenders (especially repeat) proper sentences that actually reflect the seriousness of the crime they are committing.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 27, 2021 18:01:19 GMT
Well something has to change long term re neighbourhood policing but that takes time. Short term stop and search is the only option because at least that way those carrying knives will at least be identified. It’s not an extension of powers it’s just them being allowed to do their job. What needs to change is that those who continue to commit these horrific crimes are actually punished accordingly, regardless of mitigating factors such as age.... We need to let kids know that this behaviour is no fucking acceptable and if you stab someone, you are essentially committing an attempted murder. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/18940037.man-jailed-16-years-stabbing-left-victim-life-threatening-injury/This little fucker will be out in 8 years. It's quite clear that he was looking for a scrap and then wanted to murder the man in question. 8 years? Fuck off. Put him behind bars for 20. Long term there indeed must be better ways. Through better education and providing more opportunity for youth etc. But reducing police powers in the short term is a recipe for disaster. This belief that the police are only bad has to stop infecting our way of thinking. Imagine the chaos with no police. The problem is, you'll be giving an already ineffective group of individuals even more power. Think of it like this, you employee a cleaner who mops up sick and cleans the toilets and he is pretty piss poor at that job. He keeps slipping over and rolling around in filth. You wouldn't extend his duties to also re-stocking the drinks in the canteen fridge would you? The police are just like that cleaner, rolling around in their own shit ineffectiveness. Like I said, if we actually had some bollocks and conducted the independent evaluation, that I truly believe is necessary to ensure the police are fit for purpose, then we could confidently up their powers in time of need, such as this. Look around you. Public trust in the police is at an all time low. Can you blame them? People peacefully gathering for a vigil and Seargent Bob comes weighing in with a baton and smashes some girl in the face. You give them more power to abuse, god help us when they fucking abuse it. You'll have them perform 'random searches' down women's underpants if you're not careful. Fixing the police isn't going to happen overnight, but giving them more powers right now would be a fucking disaster. Give the offenders (especially repeat) proper sentences that actually reflect the seriousness of the crime they are committing. The post started off well and then reverted to the usual anti police claptrap without substance which is a shame as you made some good points. The Police don’t put the knife in the kids hand. It’s not even about additional powers it’s about them using the ones they have without being accused of being racist every time they search a young black lad.
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Apr 27, 2021 18:21:37 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Apr 27, 2021 18:21:37 GMT
What needs to change is that those who continue to commit these horrific crimes are actually punished accordingly, regardless of mitigating factors such as age.... We need to let kids know that this behaviour is no fucking acceptable and if you stab someone, you are essentially committing an attempted murder. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/18940037.man-jailed-16-years-stabbing-left-victim-life-threatening-injury/This little fucker will be out in 8 years. It's quite clear that he was looking for a scrap and then wanted to murder the man in question. 8 years? Fuck off. Put him behind bars for 20. The problem is, you'll be giving an already ineffective group of individuals even more power. Think of it like this, you employee a cleaner who mops up sick and cleans the toilets and he is pretty piss poor at that job. He keeps slipping over and rolling around in filth. You wouldn't extend his duties to also re-stocking the drinks in the canteen fridge would you? The police are just like that cleaner, rolling around in their own shit ineffectiveness. Like I said, if we actually had some bollocks and conducted the independent evaluation, that I truly believe is necessary to ensure the police are fit for purpose, then we could confidently up their powers in time of need, such as this. Look around you. Public trust in the police is at an all time low. Can you blame them? People peacefully gathering for a vigil and Seargent Bob comes weighing in with a baton and smashes some girl in the face. You give them more power to abuse, god help us when they fucking abuse it. You'll have them perform 'random searches' down women's underpants if you're not careful. Fixing the police isn't going to happen overnight, but giving them more powers right now would be a fucking disaster. Give the offenders (especially repeat) proper sentences that actually reflect the seriousness of the crime they are committing. The post started off well and then reverted to the usual anti police claptrap without substance which is a shame as you made some good points. The Police don’t put the knife in the kids hand. It’s not even about additional powers it’s about them using the ones they have without being accused of being racist every time they search a young black lad. I think you've probably read enough of my anti police claptrap to know that I don't really link stop and search to racism. I've never really considered the police to be racist, other than those who are already drunk with power and this is an extension. To me, this is a non issue. I agree that police need to be afforded powers to conduct searches.... The problem is that current police force is not fit for purpose, so we shouldn't afford those powers yet. These should come when there are robust anti corruption measures in place, criminals that operate in the police are prosecuted accordingly and we can have confidence and belief in our police. I'm aware that you already have strong belief which is fair enough. A sizeable chunk of the population have zero trust in the force therefore they don't believe in the current incarnation. The best way to build trust is to evaluate the current state of play so we can fix the glaring defects which currently exist.
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Apr 28, 2021 7:03:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 7:03:34 GMT
Well something has to change long term re neighbourhood policing but that takes time. Short term stop and search is the only option because at least that way those carrying knives will at least be identified. It’s not an extension of powers it’s just them being allowed to do their job. What needs to change is that those who continue to commit these horrific crimes are actually punished accordingly, regardless of mitigating factors such as age.... We need to let kids know that this behaviour is no fucking acceptable and if you stab someone, you are essentially committing an attempted murder. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/18940037.man-jailed-16-years-stabbing-left-victim-life-threatening-injury/This little fucker will be out in 8 years. It's quite clear that he was looking for a scrap and then wanted to murder the man in question. 8 years? Fuck off. Put him behind bars for 20. Long term there indeed must be better ways. Through better education and providing more opportunity for youth etc. But reducing police powers in the short term is a recipe for disaster. This belief that the police are only bad has to stop infecting our way of thinking. Imagine the chaos with no police. The problem is, you'll be giving an already ineffective group of individuals even more power. Think of it like this, you employee a cleaner who mops up sick and cleans the toilets and he is pretty piss poor at that job. He keeps slipping over and rolling around in filth. You wouldn't extend his duties to also re-stocking the drinks in the canteen fridge would you? The police are just like that cleaner, rolling around in their own shit ineffectiveness. Like I said, if we actually had some bollocks and conducted the independent evaluation, that I truly believe is necessary to ensure the police are fit for purpose, then we could confidently up their powers in time of need, such as this. Look around you. Public trust in the police is at an all time low. Can you blame them? People peacefully gathering for a vigil and Seargent Bob comes weighing in with a baton and smashes some girl in the face. You give them more power to abuse, god help us when they fucking abuse it. You'll have them perform 'random searches' down women's underpants if you're not careful. Fixing the police isn't going to happen overnight, but giving them more powers right now would be a fucking disaster. Give the offenders (especially repeat) proper sentences that actually reflect the seriousness of the crime they are committing. Reactive measures instead of proactive measures are never a good idea.
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Apr 28, 2021 7:37:12 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Apr 28, 2021 7:37:12 GMT
What needs to change is that those who continue to commit these horrific crimes are actually punished accordingly, regardless of mitigating factors such as age.... We need to let kids know that this behaviour is no fucking acceptable and if you stab someone, you are essentially committing an attempted murder. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/18940037.man-jailed-16-years-stabbing-left-victim-life-threatening-injury/This little fucker will be out in 8 years. It's quite clear that he was looking for a scrap and then wanted to murder the man in question. 8 years? Fuck off. Put him behind bars for 20. The problem is, you'll be giving an already ineffective group of individuals even more power. Think of it like this, you employee a cleaner who mops up sick and cleans the toilets and he is pretty piss poor at that job. He keeps slipping over and rolling around in filth. You wouldn't extend his duties to also re-stocking the drinks in the canteen fridge would you? The police are just like that cleaner, rolling around in their own shit ineffectiveness. Like I said, if we actually had some bollocks and conducted the independent evaluation, that I truly believe is necessary to ensure the police are fit for purpose, then we could confidently up their powers in time of need, such as this. Look around you. Public trust in the police is at an all time low. Can you blame them? People peacefully gathering for a vigil and Seargent Bob comes weighing in with a baton and smashes some girl in the face. You give them more power to abuse, god help us when they fucking abuse it. You'll have them perform 'random searches' down women's underpants if you're not careful. Fixing the police isn't going to happen overnight, but giving them more powers right now would be a fucking disaster. Give the offenders (especially repeat) proper sentences that actually reflect the seriousness of the crime they are committing. Reactive measures instead of proactive measures are never a good idea. Evaluating the current police force is a proactive measure. Giving longer sentences representative of the crime, also a proactive measure. Extending police powers? A reactive measure.
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Apr 28, 2021 10:06:34 GMT
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Post by musik on Apr 28, 2021 10:06:34 GMT
Now during the pandemic I looked across the street the other day towards the house with flats. The TV was on in 4-5 of the six appartments. Guess what? On all those TV screens I saw a violent tv game scene, shootings mostly but also one involving swords and cuts.
There's an old saying: you become what you see and hear, what's around you, the environment.
Boring perhaps. Boring that the human race can't think for themselves and not become slaves to what they experience. But that's the why it is.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 28, 2021 10:10:13 GMT
Now during the pandemic I looked across the street the other day towards the house with flats. The TV was on in 4-5 of the six appartments. Guess what? On all those TV screens I saw a violent tv game scene, shootings mostly but also one involving swords and cuts. There's an old saying: you become what you see and hear, what's around you, the environment. Boring perhaps. Boring that the human race can't think for themselves and not become slaves to what they experience. But that's the why it is. Complete bollocks.
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