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Post by butlerstbob on Jun 27, 2020 17:41:34 GMT
I haven’t had chance yet to go but a few mates reckon leek is good now for a drink Leek is mint, 20+ pubs most serving decent ale👌
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 27, 2020 18:03:20 GMT
Oh yeh Congress is class but then there is literally no half decent puns to stroll to after. It’s Congress, Nigde, home🤣. Park is OK for watching a game but a lot of knobs in there too, wouldn’t want it to be my local🤷🏻♂️ Congress is my pre-match boozer for tye past 10 years or so (even though I live nowhere near Longton 😂). Used to walk back there after the game with my mate who lives in Longton but not so often in recent times, preferring to amble back down to Stoke and taking in London Road Ale House and/or The Glebe. The Strand in Longton is a decent enough pub too but can be a bit of a strange one. On one occasion it could be full of discerning, affable drinkers, whereas on another it might be populated entirely by people who definitely have tags on their ankles. It's a lottery to say the least. Very occasionally go Congress before the game if I’m meeting lads from that way, usually go Loco in Heron Cross cus it’s close and rarely have enough time to make a proper day of it. Never been the strand as never venture into the apocalyptic town of Longton.
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Post by Davef on Jun 27, 2020 18:31:06 GMT
They'll be taking registration and handing out detentions within a week.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 29, 2020 13:55:04 GMT
I like my pubs and will be looking forward to going in for a pint at an early opportunity, if I feel that it is safe to do so. I even got to wondering if I should make a special trip to one of my favourite locations to mark the occasion, after 12 weeks or so of abstention.
For those of you that like a bit of history, the free right of access to pubs should not be taken for granted. For example in the mid 70's I was in the West Wales resort of Aberaeron, which is in Cardiganshire. As with many Welsh Counties the licensing laws were strict, with no sale or consumption of alcohol permitted on a Sunday, making Cardigan what was known as a "Dry" county. On my visit, on the Sunday, we were obliged to cycle some 30 miles into the neighbouring county of Pembrokeshire, which was not a dry county, in order to get a proper pint in a pub.
Historically, Alcohol could not be purchased in Britain on Sundays mornings (during divine services) from 1848 and opening hours on Sundays were reduced in 1854 and changed in 1855. These were among many proposals to ban all sales of alcohol in Britain on Sundays, mainly due to the efforts of the Temperance Reform movement. An Act had been passed in 1853 to ban the sale of alcohol in Scotland on Sundays and similar Acts closed pubs in Ireland on Sunday from 1878 and in Wales from 1881. However, those who had travelled more than three miles on a Sunday were permitted to purchase alcohol in pubs which had seven-day licences. This is said to have led to people travelling by train from Aberystwyth to Borth (9 miles) on Sundays to purchase drinks there. As a result, the three-mile limit was abolished in 1890, and travellers had to prove that they were taking a journey for a reason other than getting a drink!
The coming of the railways in the 1860s had created a tension between Sabbatarians, some of whom wanted to restrict travel and other activities other than to attend place of worship and the railway companies who ran special excursion trains on Sundays - the only day that many of the working classes could visit the seaside. Research and campaigns were carried out to see the extent to which pubs in seaside towns such as Aberystwyth and Aberaeron stayed open on Sundays to satisfy the needs of excursionists. Pubs were granted 6 or 7 day licences, to exclude or include Sundays, although Rugby Clubs and similar organisations were generally allowed to sell alcohol to their members on Sundays.
The Act for Wales was not repealed until 1961, after which counties, then districts, could vote in favour of remaining ‘dry’ or going ‘wet’. Cardigan remained dry (that is, the public houses were closed) on Sundays from 1881 until the inhabitants of the county voted in favour of becoming wet in 1989. Cardigan was the last but one district in Britain to allow alcohol to be sold in Public Houses on Sundays. (The public could vote on the matter every seven years).
It is surprising how much the licencing laws do change, from the First World War restrictions, to the introduction of the 24 hour licence.
Immediately after the outbreak of war in August 1914, Parliament passed the Defence of the Realm Act which covered a range of measures to support the Allied effort of the war. A section of the Act looBut, immediately after the outbreak of war in August 1914, Parliament passed the Defence of the Realm Act which covered a range of measures to support the Allied effort of the war. A section of the Act looked specifically at the hours in which publicans could sell alcohol, as it was strongly believed that high levels of alcohol consumption would have a negative impact on the war effort. It therefore restricted opening hours for licensed premises to lunch (12:00 to 14:00) and later to supper (18:30 to 21:30).
At the time of its introduction there was surprisingly a lot of resistance and reservation around the Licensing Act 2003 which allowed applications for a 24 hour drinks licence.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 29, 2020 14:01:21 GMT
I’ve managed to secure a slot in a local pub. They are allowing 25 people in between 2pm and 4.30. Well it is my birthday, it’s rude not to🤷🏻♂️
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Post by wagsastokie on Jun 29, 2020 14:08:00 GMT
I like my pubs and will be looking forward to going in for a pint at an early opportunity, if I feel that it is safe to do so. I even got to wondering if I should make a special trip to one of my favourite locations to mark the occasion, after 12 weeks or so of abstention. For those of you that like a bit of history, the free right of access to pubs should not be taken for granted. For example in the mid 70's I was in the West Wales resort of Aberaeron, which is in Cardiganshire. As with many Welsh Counties the licensing laws were strict, with no sale or consumption of alcohol permitted on a Sunday, making Cardigan what was known as a "Dry" county. On my visit, on the Sunday, we were obliged to cycle some 30 miles into the neighbouring county of Pembrokeshire, which was not a dry county, in order to get a proper pint in a pub. Historically, Alcohol could not be purchased in Britain on Sundays mornings (during divine services) from 1848 and opening hours on Sundays were reduced in 1854 and changed in 1855. These were among many proposals to ban all sales of alcohol in Britain on Sundays, mainly due to the efforts of the Temperance Reform movement. An Act had been passed in 1853 to ban the sale of alcohol in Scotland on Sundays and similar Acts closed pubs in Ireland on Sunday from 1878 and in Wales from 1881. However, those who had travelled more than three miles on a Sunday were permitted to purchase alcohol in pubs which had seven-day licences. This is said to have led to people travelling by train from Aberystwyth to Borth (9 miles) on Sundays to purchase drinks there. As a result, the three-mile limit was abolished in 1890, and travellers had to prove that they were taking a journey for a reason other than getting a drink! The coming of the railways in the 1860s had created a tension between Sabbatarians, some of whom wanted to restrict travel and other activities other than to attend place of worship and the railway companies who ran special excursion trains on Sundays - the only day that many of the working classes could visit the seaside. Research and campaigns were carried out to see the extent to which pubs in seaside towns such as Aberystwyth and Aberaeron stayed open on Sundays to satisfy the needs of excursionists. Pubs were granted 6 or 7 day licences, to exclude or include Sundays, although Rugby Clubs and similar organisations were generally allowed to sell alcohol to their members on Sundays. The Act for Wales was not repealed until 1961, after which counties, then districts, could vote in favour of remaining ‘dry’ or going ‘wet’. Cardigan remained dry (that is, the public houses were closed) on Sundays from 1881 until the inhabitants of the county voted in favour of becoming wet in 1989. Cardigan was the last but one district in Britain to allow alcohol to be sold in Public Houses on Sundays. (The public could vote on the matter every seven years). It is surprising how much the licencing laws do change, from the First World War restrictions, to the introduction of the 24 hour licence. Immediately after the outbreak of war in August 1914, Parliament passed the Defence of the Realm Act which covered a range of measures to support the Allied effort of the war. A section of the Act looBut, immediately after the outbreak of war in August 1914, Parliament passed the Defence of the Realm Act which covered a range of measures to support the Allied effort of the war. A section of the Act looked specifically at the hours in which publicans could sell alcohol, as it was strongly believed that high levels of alcohol consumption would have a negative impact on the war effort. It therefore restricted opening hours for licensed premises to lunch (12:00 to 14:00) and later to supper (18:30 to 21:30). At the time of its introduction there was surprisingly a lot of resistance and reservation around the Licensing Act 2003 which allowed applications for a 24 hour drinks licence. My dad who sadly died over thirty years told us of his days growing up in a mining village in Scotland In the twenties Where on a Sunday people from each of the local villages used to pass each other half way on there way to get a few pints in the next village
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Post by spiderpuss on Jun 29, 2020 16:47:44 GMT
They'll be taking registration and handing out detentions within a week. It's what I'd hoped for rather than putting names down. Sorry it's easier and cheaper to drink in the house, plus I don't have to listen to some bore and tune into what I want to watch. Until I can just walk in and grab a pint, I'm sorry it's not open.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 30, 2020 13:21:40 GMT
I did expect that once pubs were officially allowed to open again, that I would be back in there again sooner rather than later, but perhaps not. Just doesn't sound like much fun.
Booking a slot in advance, now usually to be a timed arrangement? Attendance time likely to be limited in length to give others a go? Social distancing of at least one metre, and no shouting or loud vocals? Plastic disposable drinks holders. Card payments only? No standing at the bar, but only compulsory spaced seating? Probable inflated prices to pay for "the extra security measures".
No I think it will give it another month and see how things look.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 30, 2020 13:25:56 GMT
I did expect that once pubs were officially allowed to open again, that I would be back in there again sooner rather than later, but perhaps not. Just doesn't sound like much fun. Booking a slot in advance, now usually to be a timed arrangement? Attendance time likely to be limited in length to give others a go? Social distancing of at least one metre, and no shouting or loud vocals? Plastic disposable drinks holders. Card payments only? No standing at the bar, but only compulsory spaced seating? Probable inflated prices to pay for "the extra security measures". No I think it will give it another month and see how things look. Same, I have zero interest in going to a pub when there's shit loads of restrictions and rules to adhere to. Give it a few weeks then see, like you say.
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Post by muggleton on Jun 30, 2020 18:25:47 GMT
The pubs I drink in will take this in their stride.
Looking forward to getting out for a few.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jun 30, 2020 20:43:32 GMT
I like my pubs and will be looking forward to going in for a pint at an early opportunity, if I feel that it is safe to do so. I even got to wondering if I should make a special trip to one of my favourite locations to mark the occasion, after 12 weeks or so of abstention. For those of you that like a bit of history, the free right of access to pubs should not be taken for granted. For example in the mid 70's I was in the West Wales resort of Aberaeron, which is in Cardiganshire. As with many Welsh Counties the licensing laws were strict, with no sale or consumption of alcohol permitted on a Sunday, making Cardigan what was known as a "Dry" county. On my visit, on the Sunday, we were obliged to cycle some 30 miles into the neighbouring county of Pembrokeshire, which was not a dry county, in order to get a proper pint in a pub. Historically, Alcohol could not be purchased in Britain on Sundays mornings (during divine services) from 1848 and opening hours on Sundays were reduced in 1854 and changed in 1855. These were among many proposals to ban all sales of alcohol in Britain on Sundays, mainly due to the efforts of the Temperance Reform movement. An Act had been passed in 1853 to ban the sale of alcohol in Scotland on Sundays and similar Acts closed pubs in Ireland on Sunday from 1878 and in Wales from 1881. However, those who had travelled more than three miles on a Sunday were permitted to purchase alcohol in pubs which had seven-day licences. This is said to have led to people travelling by train from Aberystwyth to Borth (9 miles) on Sundays to purchase drinks there. As a result, the three-mile limit was abolished in 1890, and travellers had to prove that they were taking a journey for a reason other than getting a drink! The coming of the railways in the 1860s had created a tension between Sabbatarians, some of whom wanted to restrict travel and other activities other than to attend place of worship and the railway companies who ran special excursion trains on Sundays - the only day that many of the working classes could visit the seaside. Research and campaigns were carried out to see the extent to which pubs in seaside towns such as Aberystwyth and Aberaeron stayed open on Sundays to satisfy the needs of excursionists. Pubs were granted 6 or 7 day licences, to exclude or include Sundays, although Rugby Clubs and similar organisations were generally allowed to sell alcohol to their members on Sundays. The Act for Wales was not repealed until 1961, after which counties, then districts, could vote in favour of remaining ‘dry’ or going ‘wet’. Cardigan remained dry (that is, the public houses were closed) on Sundays from 1881 until the inhabitants of the county voted in favour of becoming wet in 1989. Cardigan was the last but one district in Britain to allow alcohol to be sold in Public Houses on Sundays. (The public could vote on the matter every seven years). It is surprising how much the licencing laws do change, from the First World War restrictions, to the introduction of the 24 hour licence. Immediately after the outbreak of war in August 1914, Parliament passed the Defence of the Realm Act which covered a range of measures to support the Allied effort of the war. A section of the Act looBut, immediately after the outbreak of war in August 1914, Parliament passed the Defence of the Realm Act which covered a range of measures to support the Allied effort of the war. A section of the Act looked specifically at the hours in which publicans could sell alcohol, as it was strongly believed that high levels of alcohol consumption would have a negative impact on the war effort. It therefore restricted opening hours for licensed premises to lunch (12:00 to 14:00) and later to supper (18:30 to 21:30). At the time of its introduction there was surprisingly a lot of resistance and reservation around the Licensing Act 2003 which allowed applications for a 24 hour drinks licence. When I first started coming to Tywyn in the 70's it was dry here on a Sunday so the journey was made to Machynlleth (wet) for a beer. It being in same county and not far from Borth. Those days whenever you walked in the locals reverted from speaking English to Welsh.
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Post by woodstein on Jun 30, 2020 21:01:51 GMT
Was going to hold back pubbing it till saw how it goes on Saturday but think I need to go get sloshed now. Stoke going down so need the beer to go down!
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 1, 2020 0:37:27 GMT
Quote; "When I first started coming to Tywyn in the 70's it was dry here on a Sunday so the journey was made to Machynlleth (wet) for a beer. It being in same county and not far from Borth. Those days whenever you walked in the locals reverted from speaking English to Welsh."
In the late 70's I had a small welsh cottage near Llangurig. In those days welsh nationalism was very strong and whenever there was an election I used to put up "Plaid Cymru" posters there to show political sympathy. At the time many English second home owners were suffering arson attacks in attempts to drive them away. I don't know if my precautions actually worked but at least I never had a fire.
I used to have the same problem with locals speaking in Welsh when I went into a pub. I used to know enough welsh to answer them in their own language, and hold a short conversation, which really used to shock them. I never knew if they looked on me as actually being Welsh or English. One problem with the welsh, I always found, was that if you respond to them in their own tongue they start to "jabber" and talk twice as fast, so in the end you haven't got a clue what they are saying anyway.
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Post by thequietman on Jul 1, 2020 11:48:33 GMT
Quote; "When I first started coming to Tywyn in the 70's it was dry here on a Sunday so the journey was made to Machynlleth (wet) for a beer. It being in same county and not far from Borth. Those days whenever you walked in the locals reverted from speaking English to Welsh." In the late 70's I had a small welsh cottage near Llangurig. In those days welsh nationalism was very strong and whenever there was an election I used to put up "Plaid Cymru" posters there to show political sympathy. At the time many English second home owners were suffering arson attacks in attempts to drive them away. I don't know if my precautions actually worked but at least I never had a fire. I used to have the same problem with locals speaking in Welsh when I went into a pub. I used to know enough welsh to answer them in their own language, and hold a short conversation, which really used to shock them. I never knew if they looked on me as actually being Welsh or English. One problem with the welsh, I always found, was that if you respond to them in their own tongue they start to "jabber" and talk twice as fast, so in the end you haven't got a clue what they are saying anyway. Ah yes. Come home to a real fire, buy a cottage in Wales.
Personally I'm staying well clear of pubs for the duration. Love my pubs, love my ale, love just shooting the breeze & putting the world to right with my mates. But just about everything that I enjoy about going to pubs for is going to be against the rules.
The thing I'm least looking forward to is gangs of yobs tooling up & down our street at 1am. Singing, shouting, fighting, breaking fences, damaging cars etc. It's been pretty quiet for a few months now but it's bound to start happening again.
And that's just the primary school kids. Lord knows what their drunken parents will be getting up to.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 1, 2020 12:25:03 GMT
Quote; "When I first started coming to Tywyn in the 70's it was dry here on a Sunday so the journey was made to Machynlleth (wet) for a beer. It being in same county and not far from Borth. Those days whenever you walked in the locals reverted from speaking English to Welsh." In the late 70's I had a small welsh cottage near Llangurig. In those days welsh nationalism was very strong and whenever there was an election I used to put up "Plaid Cymru" posters there to show political sympathy. At the time many English second home owners were suffering arson attacks in attempts to drive them away. I don't know if my precautions actually worked but at least I never had a fire. I used to have the same problem with locals speaking in Welsh when I went into a pub. I used to know enough welsh to answer them in their own language, and hold a short conversation, which really used to shock them. I never knew if they looked on me as actually being Welsh or English. One problem with the welsh, I always found, was that if you respond to them in their own tongue they start to "jabber" and talk twice as fast, so in the end you haven't got a clue what they are saying anyway. Nothing has changed much in the more remote pubs the further North you go but not quite at the level it used to be. Staunchly Plaid.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 2, 2020 7:21:24 GMT
Really don't think it'll be the'carnage' that the papers are predicting. Obviously there'll be the inevitable headlines of packed pubs here and there but I think people will stay away more than you think.
Most of the pubs round where I live aren't opening till Monday anyway so that's my decision made up for me.
I'd take a haircut over a pint at the moment.
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Post by Davef on Jul 2, 2020 7:53:23 GMT
Really don't think it'll be the'carnage' that the papers are predicting. Obviously there'll be the inevitable headlines of packed pubs here and there but I think people will stay away more than you think. Most of the pubs round where I live aren't opening till Monday anyway so that's my decision made up for me. I'd take a haircut over a pint at the moment. Substitute "predicting" for "hoping for" and you're pretty much spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 8:08:09 GMT
Really don't think it'll be the'carnage' that the papers are predicting. Obviously there'll be the inevitable headlines of packed pubs here and there but I think people will stay away more than you think. Most of the pubs round where I live aren't opening till Monday anyway so that's my decision made up for me. I'd take a haircut over a pint at the moment. After seeing the KFC and McDs mayhem am not so sure. Was a 2 hour wait at my local KFC yet some sat in the drive through queue that long. We have a private bar where I work and is expecting some excitement on Monday rush wise. Was talking to a local pub owner on Tuesday and he's put 18 extra tables outside and all accounted for, completely rural as well. Rarely get the chance to go to the pub as too busy but hope it is a bit nuts and some can pull some money in
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Post by Waggy on Jul 3, 2020 5:21:54 GMT
Do you think as the night goes on, it will be a case of sod it lets get back to normal. Standing at the bar etc , people singing around a piano?
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Jul 3, 2020 7:01:42 GMT
You'd think some local pubs will definitely end up like that wouldn't you
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Post by dexta on Jul 3, 2020 7:31:40 GMT
Do you think as the night goes on, it will be a case of sod it lets get back to normal. Standing at the bar etc , people singing around a piano? where have you been waggy lad.. Not seen you on here for a while you been loved up again
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Post by Waggy on Jul 3, 2020 10:35:15 GMT
Do you think as the night goes on, it will be a case of sod it lets get back to normal. Standing at the bar etc , people singing around a piano? where have you been waggy lad.. Not seen you on here for a while you been loved up again Been social media distancing myself. Not loved up but I came close with a lass just before lockdown.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 3, 2020 10:59:14 GMT
I can't see how the landlords will make any money to be honest. How do you gauge how much you will sell and order? A barrel of bitter might last 3 days before it starts turning sour after being opened and I doubt they will get through half of that with all the restrictions. Lager might last a couple of days longer. Most leaseholders will be fucked if they don't break the law.
Many of these businesses are forced to buy off the brewery at double the price of the wholesalers, they won't be able to afford to pay the bills and keep going without looser restrictions. There will be many pubs closing down if they don't get some extra support from the government.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 3, 2020 14:22:17 GMT
I noticed a pub this lunchtime that had opened up a day early to get in some practice/ get ahead of the game. I think I'll go and ask them about the chances of all pubs playing by the rules! Reminds me of a place in Ireland near Kilkenny, when we were on a cycling tour. We got to a pub about 4.50 but the place was closed so we sat outside. The landlord came out and said: " I'm sorry I can't serve you as I don't open until 6, . . . . . but would you like a pint while you're waiting?"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 14:54:49 GMT
I noticed a pub this lunchtime that had opened up a day early to get in some practice/ get ahead of the game. I think I'll go and ask them about the chances of all pubs playing by the rules! Reminds me of a place in Ireland near Kilkenny, when we were on a cycling tour. We got to a pub about 4.50 but the place was closed so we sat outside. The landlord came out and said: " I'm sorry I can't serve you as I don't open until 6, . . . . . but would you like a pint while you're waiting?" I remember similar in Newry going in to watch the World Cup draw at 9-30 am. Not open but would yous all like a drink.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 14:58:44 GMT
“People singing around a piano” are you sending posts to the future from the year 1934 waggy?
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 3, 2020 15:42:56 GMT
Do you think as the night goes on, it will be a case of sod it lets get back to normal. Standing at the bar etc , people singing around a piano? where have you been waggy lad.. Not seen you on here for a while you been loved up again By the sound of his post he's been back to the 1940's
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 3, 2020 15:48:19 GMT
where have you been waggy lad.. Not seen you on here for a while you been loved up again By the sound of his post he's been back to the 1940's Got this image of Del, Rodders, and Trigger singing around Uncle Alberts piano in the nags head. To be fair I wouldn’t mind going back to that even before lockdown!
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Post by Billybigbollox on Jul 3, 2020 16:28:27 GMT
Do you think as the night goes on, it will be a case of sod it lets get back to normal. Standing at the bar etc , people singing around a piano? There’ll be people doing Charlie off the bar again before you know it Colin.👍
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Post by felonious on Jul 3, 2020 17:48:59 GMT
Do you think as the night goes on, it will be a case of sod it lets get back to normal. Standing at the bar etc , people singing around a piano? There’ll be people doing Charlie off the bar again before you know it Colin.👍 As long as they wash their hands before and after....
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