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Post by crapslinger on Jun 28, 2020 10:32:38 GMT
From the Express the wonderful Mayor of London:
Mr Khan said: "I’d rather invest in future Daves and Stormzys than future victims of crime." and that says it all. All lives matter
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 28, 2020 14:07:12 GMT
No idea which thread this should be on , but it's not very good.
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Post by dexta on Jun 28, 2020 14:17:12 GMT
No idea which thread this should be on , but it's not very good. scouse.. it's never our fault always the victims wankers
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Post by thevoid on Jun 28, 2020 14:32:37 GMT
The Great British Bobby 2020 🤷‍♀️
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 28, 2020 14:35:29 GMT
No idea which thread this should be on , but it's not very good. scouse.. it's never our fault always the victims wankers This is what you get when - Everyone has a phone with a camera however rich or poor. - the police are afraid of dealing with issues robustly because they won’t get any support from there bosses,govt and press. - there’s a privileged group of people who’ve just taken all there life without being questioned or challenged. - The minority and PC brigade are allowed to dictate what’s right and wrong. This issue isn’t about colour at all it’s about people thinking they can do what they want knowing that they can’t be challenged because the people that matter won’t support those trying to uphold the law.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 28, 2020 14:53:04 GMT
scouse.. it's never our fault always the victims wankers This is what you get when - Everyone has a phone with a camera however rich or poor. - the police are afraid of dealing with issues robustly because they won’t get any support from there bosses,govt and press. - there’s a privileged group of people who’ve just taken all there life without being questioned or challenged. - The minority and PC brigade are allowed to dictate what’s right and wrong. This issue isn’t about colour at all it’s about people thinking they can do what they want knowing that they can’t be challenged because the people that matter won’t support those trying to uphold the law. We are on the verge of becoming a lawless society, the Police it seems are powerless to carry out the job they are paid to do, I said at the time they set a very dangerous precedent on that first weekend of BLM protests/riots with their weak policing and so it has come to fruition, by allowing criminals to carry out assaults on them as well as standing by whilst mobs destroyed and vandalised monuments they have lost the trust of the public at large.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 28, 2020 15:21:55 GMT
This is what you get when - Everyone has a phone with a camera however rich or poor. - the police are afraid of dealing with issues robustly because they won’t get any support from there bosses,govt and press. - there’s a privileged group of people who’ve just taken all there life without being questioned or challenged. - The minority and PC brigade are allowed to dictate what’s right and wrong. This issue isn’t about colour at all it’s about people thinking they can do what they want knowing that they can’t be challenged because the people that matter won’t support those trying to uphold the law. We are on the verge of becoming a lawless society, the Police it seems are powerless to carry out the job they are paid to do, I said at the time they set a very dangerous precedent on that first weekend of BLM protests/riots with their weak policing and so it has come to fruition, by allowing criminals to carry out assaults on them as well as standing by whilst mobs destroyed and vandalised monuments they have lost the trust of the public at large.  I agree. Though the sad thing is it’s not the individual officers fault it’s because they lack the confidence to make robust decisions and are concerned that they will / will not be supported. So scared are the chiefs that there’ll be some hostile press reaction. It’s a mess but would you risk your mortgage / job on such a decision. This thought pattern and fear of making a mistake needs to change.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 28, 2020 18:30:10 GMT
We are on the verge of becoming a lawless society, the Police it seems are powerless to carry out the job they are paid to do, I said at the time they set a very dangerous precedent on that first weekend of BLM protests/riots with their weak policing and so it has come to fruition, by allowing criminals to carry out assaults on them as well as standing by whilst mobs destroyed and vandalised monuments they have lost the trust of the public at large.  I agree. Though the sad thing is it’s not the individual officers fault it’s because they lack the confidence to make robust decisions and are concerned that they will / will not be supported. So scared are the chiefs that there’ll be some hostile press reaction. It’s a mess but would you risk your mortgage / job on such a decision. This thought pattern and fear of making a mistake needs to change. It wont until they start to promote "cops" rather than arselicking academics. They are even recruiting bosses now straight into a high rank with no experience of policing is it any wonder cops wont put themselves out.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 28, 2020 21:02:32 GMT
I agree. Though the sad thing is it’s not the individual officers fault it’s because they lack the confidence to make robust decisions and are concerned that they will / will not be supported. So scared are the chiefs that there’ll be some hostile press reaction. It’s a mess but would you risk your mortgage / job on such a decision. This thought pattern and fear of making a mistake needs to change. It wont until they start to promote "cops" rather than arselicking academics. They are even recruiting bosses now straight into a high rank with no experience of policing is it any wonder cops wont put themselves out. Same in all Civil Service sectors mate, last "manager" I suffered was a female with a masters in psychology never done the grass roots work didn't have a Scooby how to get the best out of her staff or clients, needless to say the whole shebang went tit's up very quickly thank fcuk I had an exit strategy in place, nothing will change until promotion is earned and not gifted to incompetent imbeciles.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 28, 2020 21:13:44 GMT
We are on the verge of becoming a lawless society, the Police it seems are powerless to carry out the job they are paid to do, I said at the time they set a very dangerous precedent on that first weekend of BLM protests/riots with their weak policing and so it has come to fruition, by allowing criminals to carry out assaults on them as well as standing by whilst mobs destroyed and vandalised monuments they have lost the trust of the public at large. I agree. Though the sad thing is it’s not the individual officers fault it’s because they lack the confidence to make robust decisions and are concerned that they will / will not be supported. So scared are the chiefs that there’ll be some hostile press reaction. It’s a mess but would you risk your mortgage / job on such a decision. This thought pattern and fear of making a mistake needs to change. I did just that mate, I did however have a plan in place and evidence to support it, I now have a gagging order placed on me on the upside I was able to take early retirement and pay off my mortgage with a decent pension, sometimes you have to stand up for what you believe to be right, these officers are paid to uphold the law and protect the public and property watching these "Police Officers" standing by or even worse running away doesn't sit well. In an ideal world their bosses should support them in any actions they take to do their jobs properly, unfortunately they are gutless PC obsessed puppets.
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Post by yeswilko on Jun 28, 2020 22:28:10 GMT
This is what you get when - Everyone has a phone with a camera however rich or poor. - the police are afraid of dealing with issues robustly because they won’t get any support from there bosses,govt and press. - there’s a privileged group of people who’ve just taken all there life without being questioned or challenged. - The minority and PC brigade are allowed to dictate what’s right and wrong. This issue isn’t about colour at all it’s about people thinking they can do what they want knowing that they can’t be challenged because the people that matter won’t support those trying to uphold the law. We are on the verge of becoming a lawless society, the Police it seems are powerless to carry out the job they are paid to do, I said at the time they set a very dangerous precedent on that first weekend of BLM protests/riots with their weak policing and so it has come to fruition, by allowing criminals to carry out assaults on them as well as standing by whilst mobs destroyed and vandalised monuments they have lost the trust of the public at large.  When the people in charge are lawless what do you expect? Boris openly lied to the Queen..
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 29, 2020 6:54:58 GMT
We are on the verge of becoming a lawless society, the Police it seems are powerless to carry out the job they are paid to do, I said at the time they set a very dangerous precedent on that first weekend of BLM protests/riots with their weak policing and so it has come to fruition, by allowing criminals to carry out assaults on them as well as standing by whilst mobs destroyed and vandalised monuments they have lost the trust of the public at large. When the people in charge are lawless what do you expect? Boris openly lied to the Queen.. Is that supposed to be a serious comparison deflection and whataboutery from the loony left again, I take it you agree with criminals attacking the police, causing criminal damage, carrying weapons, rioting etc.
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Post by RF10 on Jun 29, 2020 7:20:30 GMT
No idea which thread this should be on , but it's not very good. scouse.. it's never our fault always the victims wankers What has it got to do with being Scouse? You're labelling an entire City by some dickheads causing trouble. Your telling me there are no arrests or violence anywhere else.
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Post by yeswilko on Jun 29, 2020 7:28:11 GMT
We are on the verge of becoming a lawless society, the Police it seems are powerless to carry out the job they are paid to do, I said at the time they set a very dangerous precedent on that first weekend of BLM protests/riots with their weak policing and so it has come to fruition, by allowing criminals to carry out assaults on them as well as standing by whilst mobs destroyed and vandalised monuments they have lost the trust of the public at large.  When the people in charge are lawless what do you expect? Boris openly lied to the Queen.. He also conspired to have a journalist beaten up. Then you've got Cummings breaking lock down and doing a TV interview in which he basically sat there with his middle finger up at the whole country. The place is fucked. Lying to the Queen and illegally shutting down democracy though... The place is fucked
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 29, 2020 7:43:28 GMT
scouse.. it's never our fault always the victims wankers What has it got to do with being Scouse? You're labelling an entire City by some dickheads causing trouble. Your telling me there are no arrests or violence anywhere else. It seems as though lots of people are being labled as racist for no reason 🤷‍♂️ other than not conforming to the views of a few. I assume you can see how infuriating that is.....
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 29, 2020 7:49:16 GMT
No idea which thread this should be on , but it's not very good. This isn’t going to end well. It just needs some looney brandishing a hand gun and we will have a tragedy on our hands. I can easily see this happening over the summer then we will have community leaders wringing their hands in despair on TV news and debates on news night and question time. Even on the normally peaceful Barbican in Plymouth last week saw several nights of disturbances when police were pelted with cans, bottles and coins. One officer was injured whilst rendering first aid to a "stricken reveller"..
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Post by Northy on Jun 29, 2020 8:30:27 GMT
When the people in charge are lawless what do you expect? Boris openly lied to the Queen.. He also conspired to have a journalist beaten up. Then you've got Cummings breaking lock down and doing a TV interview in which he basically sat there with his middle finger up at the whole country. The place is fucked. Lying to the Queen and illegally shutting down democracy though... The place is fucked which journalist is that, have you the proof ? Why did he try to prorogue Parliament, because a subversive group was trying to overthrow democracy, they weren't democratic at the time in that place.
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Post by yeswilko on Jun 29, 2020 9:04:26 GMT
He also conspired to have a journalist beaten up. Then you've got Cummings breaking lock down and doing a TV interview in which he basically sat there with his middle finger up at the whole country. The place is fucked. Lying to the Queen and illegally shutting down democracy though... The place is fucked which journalist is that, have you the proof ? Why did he try to prorogue Parliament, because a subversive group was trying to overthrow democracy, they weren't democratic at the time in that place. It was recorded ya numpty
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 29, 2020 10:29:27 GMT
which journalist is that, have you the proof ? Why did he try to prorogue Parliament, because a subversive group was trying to overthrow democracy, they weren't democratic at the time in that place. It was recorded ya numpty And it turned out to be a private conversation where it was a bloke humouring an irate "friend" who was upset, we all let off steam it was hardly a criminal enterprise was it. It was two blokes one saying "id love to smash his ribs" we all said similar and it went no further than that, no info passed etc. But of course it was Boris so he was facilitating a hit man.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 29, 2020 11:08:27 GMT
It was recorded ya numpty And it turned out to be a private conversation where it was a bloke humouring an irate "friend" who was upset, we all let off steam it was hardly a criminal enterprise was it. It was two blokes one saying "id love to smash his ribs" we all said similar and it went no further than that, no info passed etc. But of course it was Boris so he was facilitating a hit man. You've had a similar conversation as the one Guppy and Johnson had? Really? You've rang someone (or someone has rang you) to get the contact details of a person that you have arranged to be beaten up?
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 29, 2020 11:13:04 GMT
And it turned out to be a private conversation where it was a bloke humouring an irate "friend" who was upset, we all let off steam it was hardly a criminal enterprise was it. It was two blokes one saying "id love to smash his ribs" we all said similar and it went no further than that, no info passed etc. But of course it was Boris so he was facilitating a hit man. You've had a similar conversation as the one Guppy and Johnson had? Really? You've rang someone (or someone has rang you) to get the contact details of a person that you have arranged to be beaten up? No I've said things I dont mean and have gone along with friends venting when angry and upset, you haven't really !! never ever said "I'll kill you in a minute" or similar yeah whatever.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 29, 2020 11:18:22 GMT
You've had a similar conversation as the one Guppy and Johnson had? Really? You've rang someone (or someone has rang you) to get the contact details of a person that you have arranged to be beaten up? No I've said things I dont mean and have gone along with friends venting when angry and upset, you haven't really !! never ever said "I'll kill you in a minute" or similar yeah whatever. Yeah, I've said something like "I'll kill you in a minute". But that's not what happened between Johnson and Guppy - Guppy was phoning Johnson to get the details of a journalist that he wanted to organise to have beaten up. Do you see the difference?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 29, 2020 11:22:03 GMT
The fact is, Johnson is an utter shithouse of a man, no more suitable to be Prime Minister than Fred West.
It's all here.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 29, 2020 11:25:31 GMT
No I've said things I dont mean and have gone along with friends venting when angry and upset, you haven't really !! never ever said "I'll kill you in a minute" or similar yeah whatever. Yeah, I've said something like "I'll kill you in a minute". But that's not what happened between Johnson and Guppy - Guppy was phoning Johnson to get the details of a journalist that he wanted to organise to have beaten up. Do you see the difference? He was and he didnt give any details did he, he just let him vent his anger on a phone nothing more nothing less. He wasnt involved in any conspiracy he took a call from a mate and allowed him to take his frustration out. Have you ever had a mate telling you how mad he/she is and she could kill the other person or smash their face in, were you conspiring or listening to a pal.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 29, 2020 11:31:49 GMT
Yeah, I've said something like "I'll kill you in a minute". But that's not what happened between Johnson and Guppy - Guppy was phoning Johnson to get the details of a journalist that he wanted to organise to have beaten up. Do you see the difference? He was and he didnt give any details did he, he just let him vent his anger on a phone nothing more nothing less. He wasnt involved in any conspiracy he took a call from a mate and allowed him to take his frustration out. Have you ever had a mate telling you how mad he/she is and she could kill the other person or smash their face in, were you conspiring or listening to a pal. Again, Guppy wasn't letting his frustration out. He was asking for the details of someone he wanted to have beaten up. If a friend phoned me up and said he wanted to kick the shit out of someone and I said that I've got some people going through files to find out where that person is, I would understand how it sounds likes I am a conspiring in a potential assault. Given how old it is, I don't think it's that important. But lets allow people to judge the call on what it was, and not some made up guff about it being an everyday situation that we've all been through.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 29, 2020 11:36:25 GMT
He was and he didnt give any details did he, he just let him vent his anger on a phone nothing more nothing less. He wasnt involved in any conspiracy he took a call from a mate and allowed him to take his frustration out. Have you ever had a mate telling you how mad he/she is and she could kill the other person or smash their face in, were you conspiring or listening to a pal. Again, Guppy wasn't letting his frustration out. He was asking for the details of someone he wanted to have beaten up. If a friend phoned me up and said he wanted to kick the shit out of someone and I said that I've got some people going through files to find out where that person is, I would understand how it sounds likes I am a conspiring in a potential assault. Given how old it is, I don't think it's that important. But lets allow people to judge the call on what it was, and not some made up guff about it being an everyday situation that we've all been through. It has been done and dusted, it was how many years ago 30 Its guff why because that's my opinion on it and it does fit your opinion 🤷‍♂️ say no more.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 29, 2020 11:44:15 GMT
Again, Guppy wasn't letting his frustration out. He was asking for the details of someone he wanted to have beaten up. If a friend phoned me up and said he wanted to kick the shit out of someone and I said that I've got some people going through files to find out where that person is, I would understand how it sounds likes I am a conspiring in a potential assault. Given how old it is, I don't think it's that important. But lets allow people to judge the call on what it was, and not some made up guff about it being an everyday situation that we've all been through. It has been done and dusted, it was how many years ago 30 Its guff why because that's my opinion on it and it does fit your opinion 🤷‍♂️ say no more. It's not an opinion, it's basically a misrepresentation of what the conversation actually was. Similar to if I had an opinion that Stoke won 2-0 at the weekend.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 29, 2020 11:50:37 GMT
It has been done and dusted, it was how many years ago 30 Its guff why because that's my opinion on it and it does fit your opinion 🤷‍♂️ say no more. It's not an opinion, it's basically a misrepresentation of what the conversation actually was. Similar to if I had an opinion that Stoke won 2-0 at the weekend. It was misrepresented in your opinion 🤷‍♂️
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 29, 2020 11:58:06 GMT
Anyone who doesn't think the Met is institutionally racist just research the recent Fryent Country Park murders to see how little black lives matter in the Capital and see the state of some utter vermin inside our Police Forces.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 29, 2020 12:12:36 GMT
Anyone who doesn't think the Met is institutionally racist just research the recent Fryent Country Park murders to see how little black lives matter in the Capital and see the state of some utter vermin inside our Police Forces. I take it you won’t be calling 999 then?
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