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Post by jarvinski on Jun 20, 2020 16:08:51 GMT
Fuck the knee, what about ALL lives matter
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Post by datguy on Jun 20, 2020 16:09:13 GMT
Equality for black people is a horrible thing isn't it ya old ignorant racists ALL lives matter, if that was the slogan it would be less racist. Imagine reading black lives matter and interpreting it as only black lives matter. ALL lives do matter. That is the point of all of this.
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Post by somersetpotter on Jun 20, 2020 16:10:07 GMT
So you’re not going to watch any English football matches ever again as every team has done it this weekend? no....political bullshit.. . Racism is not political.
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Post by right on Jun 20, 2020 16:10:45 GMT
Fuck the knee, what about ALL lives matter lol
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 20, 2020 16:12:23 GMT
ALL lives matter, if that was the slogan it would be less racist. Imagine reading black lives matter and interpreting it as only black lives matter. ALL lives do matter. That is the point of all of this. Imagine if it said "white lives matter" of course all lives matter so why not say so instead of being devisive?
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Post by datguy on Jun 20, 2020 16:14:15 GMT
Imagine reading black lives matter and interpreting it as only black lives matter. ALL lives do matter. That is the point of all of this. Imagine if it said "white lives matter" of course all lives matter so why not say so instead of being devisive? Is it?
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Post by PottersBrim on Jun 20, 2020 16:14:38 GMT
So you’re not going to watch any English football matches ever again as every team has done it this weekend? no....political bullshit.. . What an absolute load of 'look at me' bollocks. Not a fucking chance you'll never watch any football again, you fucking hypocrite.
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Post by devondumpling on Jun 20, 2020 16:14:56 GMT
ALL lives matter, if that was the slogan it would be less racist. Imagine reading black lives matter and interpreting it as only black lives matter. ALL lives do matter. That is the point of all of this. Ah right, were supposed to by physic now? Just reading what I see, no interpretation.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 20, 2020 16:16:28 GMT
Is taking the knee happening every game? For the rest of the season? Arsenal have done it twice this week so who knows. For what it’s worth I don’t have a problem with it for the first week back but beyond that I don’t think it’s needed.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 20, 2020 16:17:17 GMT
ALL lives matter, if that was the slogan it would be less racist. I can't even deal with attempting to respond to this. Jesus christ lad You have seen what their aims actually are? Jesus said love one another. You fail to consider how it would read if it said "white lives matter" Racism is evil but this isn't the way to educate people.
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Post by datguy on Jun 20, 2020 16:18:13 GMT
Imagine reading black lives matter and interpreting it as only black lives matter. ALL lives do matter. That is the point of all of this. Ah right, were supposed to by physic now? Just reading what I see, no interpretation. Eh?
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Post by right on Jun 20, 2020 16:19:59 GMT
Imagine reading black lives matter and interpreting it as only black lives matter. ALL lives do matter. That is the point of all of this. Imagine if it said "white lives matter" of course all lives matter so why not say so instead of being devisive? By saying all lives matter you lose the urgency of the fact that minorities, particularly black people in this instance feel the brunt of an unequal system that many others think is fine (and don't realise is unfair because they haven't experienced it). All lives matter doesn't point out that right now things are unequal between races. It's not decisive, all lives matter once black lives matter, we just need some things to change.
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Post by devondumpling on Jun 20, 2020 16:19:59 GMT
Ah right, were supposed to by physic now? Just reading what I see, no interpretation. Eh? A bit beyond your pay grade?
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Jun 20, 2020 16:20:53 GMT
So you’re not going to watch any English football matches ever again as every team has done it this weekend? no....political bullshit.. . Ok cool👍.
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Post by datguy on Jun 20, 2020 16:21:18 GMT
A bit beyond your pay grade? Where did I say you aren't supposed to interpret anything from a phrase, lad? Poor sod.
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 20, 2020 16:22:41 GMT
Imagine if it said "white lives matter" of course all lives matter so why not say so instead of being devisive? By saying all lives matter you lose the urgency of the fact that minorities, particularly black people in this instance feel the brunt of an unequal system that many others think is fine (and don't realise is unfair because they haven't experienced it). All lives matter doesn't point out that right now things are unequal between races. It's not decisive, all lives matter once black lives matter, we just need some things to change. What specifically is unequal about the “system”?
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Post by One-Two on Jun 20, 2020 16:26:09 GMT
Fuck the knee, what about ALL lives matter But Dr. King, what about my dream? Jesus wept.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 20, 2020 16:26:51 GMT
Imagine if it said "white lives matter" of course all lives matter so why not say so instead of being devisive? By saying all lives matter you lose the urgency of the fact that minorities, particularly black people in this instance feel the brunt of an unequal system that many others think is fine (and don't realise is unfair because they haven't experienced it). All lives matter doesn't point out that right now things are unequal between races. It's not decisive, all lives matter once black lives matter, we just need some things to change. I fully agree with the sentiment but disagree with the sligan and the use of the black power salute that is used by some. No one should be discriminated against but tearing down statues and vandalism has obstructed what could have been a great opportunity to educate. 10,000 people a year are killed by the police in the USA and 33 in 10 years in the UK. Still awful but nothing like the scale. This country made a lot of money from slavery but thankfully was also instrumental in stopping it. Education is the answer.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jun 20, 2020 16:29:21 GMT
This thread turned out pretty much as I had expected.
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Post by datguy on Jun 20, 2020 16:30:14 GMT
By saying all lives matter you lose the urgency of the fact that minorities, particularly black people in this instance feel the brunt of an unequal system that many others think is fine (and don't realise is unfair because they haven't experienced it). All lives matter doesn't point out that right now things are unequal between races. It's not decisive, all lives matter once black lives matter, we just need some things to change. I fully agree with the sentiment but disagree with the sligan and the use of the black power salute that is used by some. No one should be discriminated against but tearing down statues and vandalism has obstructed what could have been a great opportunity to educate. 10,000 people a year are killed by the police in the USA and 33 in 10 years in the UK. Still awful but nothing like the scale. This country made a lot of money from slavery but thankfully was also instrumental in stopping it. Education is the answer. I really don't understand this narrative mate. Surely it educates far more people when we stop glorifying racist historic figures?
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Post by wykepotter on Jun 20, 2020 16:34:58 GMT
Equality for black people is a horrible thing isn't it ya old ignorant racists ALL lives matter, if that was the slogan it would be less racist. What I’ve learnt about the All Lives Matter hashtag/quote is that, at a time when the focus is on how there is a specific problem happening to black people, the quote discounts, and diminishes, the focus on the violence and discrimination black people face every day. It seems to suggest that all people are in equal danger, which isn’t true. “All Lives Matters” takes the focus away from the problem and suggests we’re not hearing what is being said. Black Lives Matter is not saying *only* black lives matter; it’s saying black lives should matter as much as white lives.
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Post by jwhpotter on Jun 20, 2020 16:39:23 GMT
Racism is disgusting but as are many other things in the world. But this is getting ridiculous now. ALL LIVES MATTER. In my opinion the Prem players should be wearing ‘thank you NHS’ on the back of their shirts at the moment
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 20, 2020 16:40:42 GMT
Racism is disgusting but as are many other things in the world. But this is getting ridiculous now. ALL LIVES MATTER. In my opinion the Prem players should be wearing ‘thank you NHS’ on the back of their shirts at the moment Haven’t they got that on the front of their shirts?
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Post by lordb on Jun 20, 2020 16:42:59 GMT
ALL lives matter, if that was the slogan it would be less racist. What I’ve learnt about the All Lives Matter hashtag/quote is that, at a time when the focus is on how there is a specific problem happening to black people, the quote discounts, and diminishes, the focus on the violence and discrimination black people face every day. It seems to suggest that all people are in equal danger, which isn’t true. “All Lives Matters” takes the focus away from the problem and suggests we’re not hearing what is being said. Black Lives Matter is not saying *only* black lives matter; it’s saying black lives should matter as much as white lives. It would be very easy/lazy to say only an idiot could think anything else.
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Post by hogansgoals on Jun 20, 2020 16:44:10 GMT
Bye bye Stoke Took the knee....absolute bollocks bye mate take care
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Post by sportsman on Jun 20, 2020 16:50:13 GMT
This BLM I think has put racism back about 30 odd years. You'll always get the odd nutter at any time any year. Things were progressing, now there's resentment all over social media from people who before this were probably very tolerant and relaxed and never thought anything of the sort.
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 20, 2020 16:51:50 GMT
Equality for black people is a horrible thing isn't it ya old ignorant racists Can I ask you a couple of questions? 1) is there a legitimate way of disagreeing with the politics and promotion of the BLM organisation/movement? Or is any questioning or dissent “racist”? 2) there are many black people who dislike and disagree with BLM and taking the knee. Are they also racist? Cheers
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 20, 2020 16:54:57 GMT
This BLM I think has put racism back about 30 odd years. You'll always get the odd nutter at any time any year. Things were progressing, now there's resentment all over social media from people who before this were probably very tolerant and relaxed and never thought anything of the sort. Yep. And the more people express dissent, the more “evidence” there will be that our society is riddled with racism, as this thread is demonstrating. We’re entering a terrible degenerative vicious circle.
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Post by wykepotter on Jun 20, 2020 17:05:35 GMT
By saying all lives matter you lose the urgency of the fact that minorities, particularly black people in this instance feel the brunt of an unequal system that many others think is fine (and don't realise is unfair because they haven't experienced it). All lives matter doesn't point out that right now things are unequal between races. It's not decisive, all lives matter once black lives matter, we just need some things to change. What specifically is unequal about the “system”? Educational attainment, unemployment rates, average pay, home ownership, arrest levels, stop and search levels. If you’re black in Britain the colour of your skin is something that regularly affects all aspects of your life. Being white, rarely, if ever, is of any relevance.
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Post by RAF on Jun 20, 2020 17:06:02 GMT
Imagine if it said "white lives matter" of course all lives matter so why not say so instead of being devisive? By saying all lives matter you lose the urgency of the fact that minorities, particularly black people in this instance feel the brunt of an unequal system that many others think is fine (and don't realise is unfair because they haven't experienced it). All lives matter doesn't point out that right now things are unequal between races. It's not decisive, all lives matter once black lives matter, we just need some things to change. I agree things need to change, but it's not just a white problem. The black community have to help themselves. These young lads killing themselves over turf, drugs etc needs seriously addressing. Will social reform and giving young black people more opportunities put a stop to this? I doubt it as it is seen as cool and the money is a massive attraction. There is some mountain to climb here to make this better. H
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