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Post by musik on Jun 10, 2020 13:13:46 GMT
In 1986, Feb 28th, Olof Palme, leader of the SocialDemocrats and our Prime Minister in Sweden then, was murdered.
The new big investigation about who did it finished today and the result was presented just now.
Their conclusion, led by investigator Krister Petersson, is that Stig Engström, the so called "Skandia-mannen", The Scandia Man, did it.
It seems the conclusion came as a result of his lies several times during the time when this murder was in focus on every tv channel here. However they, then lead by investigator Hans Holmér, let Stig Engström go to focus on the PKK-trace instead. It was a mistake, because much more could have been done then; for instance find the gun if Stig Engström was guilty. Now they don't have it.
All is very strange. How on earth could Lisbeth Palme, Olof's wife, be sure Christer Pettersson was the murderer, and that he did it?? He doesn't look like Stig Engström at all!! Their only common denominator is their alcoholism. Christer Pettersson, not to be confused with Krister Petersson ...
IF Stig Engström did it is the question - that will never be answered? But it was really strange that he made interviews in a couple of papers years after he was questioned, talking about what the murderer did - if he didn't talk about himself. It can be seen with psychopats now and then to put themselves in the center of an investigation voluntarily.
At the same time, noone knows and he doesn't look like Christer Pettersson (who actually admited the murder to his friend Gert Fylking according to the latter).
As said, noone knows.
I had an idea the new investigator Krister Petersson would admit the murder today, saying "You did chase Christer Pettersson at the time, but you got the wrong one ...".
Your thoughts?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 10, 2020 13:59:18 GMT
Always been fascinated by that case.
Seems like such an odd target for assassination, but when you look into it he had a fair few enemies and never took any security precautions.
I think I'm right in saying he was shot walking back from the theatre with his wife.
I take it Stig Engstrom is dead!
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Post by thevoid on Jun 10, 2020 15:02:32 GMT
Sounds like one for Wallander.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 15:04:25 GMT
Always been fascinated by that case. Seems like such an odd target for assassination, but when you look into it he had a fair few enemies and never took any security precautions. I think I'm right in saying he was shot walking back from the theatre with his wife. I take it Stig Engstrom is deadYeah that's why they've closed it I believe.....
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Post by musik on Jun 10, 2020 16:40:25 GMT
Always been fascinated by that case. Seems like such an odd target for assassination, but when you look into it he had a fair few enemies and never took any security precautions. I think I'm right in saying he was shot walking back from the theatre with his wife. I take it Stig Engstrom is dead! Palme had long lists of enemies. They had been at the cinema. Weird though that Lisbet Palme was so sure Christer Pettersson did it. I suppose Christer Pettersson appeared round the corner, high as usual on something, and that's who she first saw when she looked up and realized what had happened. He probably got frightened and ran away. Yes, Stig born in Bombay, killed himself in Täby, Stockholm in June 2000 by a mix of tablets and alcohol. His wife had left him some year in the late 90ies.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 10, 2020 16:44:41 GMT
Always been fascinated by that case. Seems like such an odd target for assassination, but when you look into it he had a fair few enemies and never took any security precautions. I think I'm right in saying he was shot walking back from the theatre with his wife. I take it Stig Engstrom is dead! Palme had long lists of enemies. They had been at the cinema. Weird though that Lisbet Palme was so sure Christer Pettersson did it. I suppose Christer Pettersson appeared round the corner, high as usual on something, and that's who she first saw when she looked up and realized what had happened. He probably got frightened and ran away. Yes, Stig born in Bombay, killed himself in Täby, Stockholm in June 2000 by a mix of tablets and alcohol. His wife had left him some year in the late 90ies. And was any kind of motive given for The Stig having killed Palme?
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Post by musik on Jun 10, 2020 16:46:41 GMT
Palme had long lists of enemies. They had been at the cinema. Weird though that Lisbet Palme was so sure Christer Pettersson did it. I suppose Christer Pettersson appeared round the corner, high as usual on something, and that's who she first saw when she looked up and realized what had happened. He probably got frightened and ran away. Yes, Stig born in Bombay, killed himself in Täby, Stockholm in June 2000 by a mix of tablets and alcohol. His wife had left him some year in the late 90ies. And was any kind of motive given for The Stig having killed Palme? He hated him. And they have said the same before about Christer Pettersson.
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Post by musik on Jun 10, 2020 16:49:59 GMT
No murder weapon or dna found though, and most experts are hugely disappointed today.
Some say Stig is just one of many suspects they knew already. Now they're questioning what the big new investigation actually have been doing for the last three years.
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Post by lordb on Jun 10, 2020 20:54:32 GMT
This could make great TV
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Post by musik on Jun 10, 2020 21:28:27 GMT
Actually, in 1998 a film called Det Sista Kontraktet (The Last Contract) was made, featuring Mikael Persbrandt, famous from the Beck films and for being the frontman of the Bet365 advertising over here in Sweden.
But with a completely different story and murderer, than how the big new investigation presented what had happened.
I think it must be available with english text.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jun 11, 2020 8:57:47 GMT
The Scandia man?
Must've been a truck load of incriminating evidence...
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Post by wagsastokie on Jun 11, 2020 9:22:11 GMT
It sounds like the Swedish police have pissed as much money up the wall as the met has on the mcann case
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Post by musik on Jun 11, 2020 11:09:12 GMT
It sounds like the Swedish police have pissed as much money up the wall as the met has on the mcann case +600 million.
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Post by musik on Jun 11, 2020 11:09:41 GMT
The Scandia man? Must've been a truck load of incriminating evidence... No. Not one.
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Post by musik on Jun 11, 2020 11:12:55 GMT
Two witnesses (the Cheva Man and the Taxi driver) who were there when it happened today say, no way it was Stig who did it.
1) the murderer was long legged, 190 cm tall and kind of atletic (Stig is approx 175 cm and fat w short legs).
2) Stig got there after the one who shot, was seen.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 11, 2020 11:27:03 GMT
Clarkson, then?
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Post by musik on Jun 11, 2020 11:58:52 GMT
He had lots of enemies after visiting Castro and Arafat.
Many theories have evolved: The South Africa; CIA; The Police force. Or some lonely maniac.
I still think Christer P did it. Lisbet Palme was absolutely sure. He had killed before. He admitted in front of his ChristDemocrat friend Gert F before he died. His physics attributes are more corresponding to what different witnesses have said.
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Post by musik on Jun 11, 2020 12:01:49 GMT
Clark Olofson you mean. He hasn't been on their minds.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 11, 2020 12:15:15 GMT
Clark Olofson you mean. He hasn't been on their minds. Ah
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Post by musik on Jun 11, 2020 12:42:45 GMT
I'm not sure if they've investigated Svartenbrandt, who spent more than 40 of his 70 years in prison.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 11, 2020 12:45:02 GMT
Palme had long lists of enemies. They had been at the cinema. Weird though that Lisbet Palme was so sure Christer Pettersson did it. I suppose Christer Pettersson appeared round the corner, high as usual on something, and that's who she first saw when she looked up and realized what had happened. He probably got frightened and ran away. Yes, Stig born in Bombay, killed himself in Täby, Stockholm in June 2000 by a mix of tablets and alcohol. His wife had left him some year in the late 90ies. And was any kind of motive given for The Stig having killed Palme? The killer opposed the victims left wing policies allegedly.
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Post by musik on Jun 11, 2020 12:55:22 GMT
And was any kind of motive given for The Stig having killed Palme? The killer opposed the victims left wing policies allegedly. Could be. But rather unlikely it was Stig. * he wasn't 185-190 cm tall * he didn't have long legs * he wasn't "athletic" * he showed up After witnesses have seen the shooter
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 11, 2020 13:01:34 GMT
I was only speaking to answer the question on possible motivation.
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Post by musik on Jun 11, 2020 13:41:58 GMT
I was only speaking to answer the question on possible motivation. Many group of haters back then. Some hated him because he was upper-class, some hated him because he was a Social Democrat, some hated his involvement in the peace process between countries, some Social Democrats hated him because they thought he was a bad representative for the working class, some hated his arrogant debate tactics, some hated him because he looked jewish they said, which he wasn't for a start ... some hated him for speaking about the war in Vietnam, some hated his meetings with Castro and Arafat.
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