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Post by felonious on Jun 9, 2020 5:43:37 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 9, 2020 6:25:17 GMT
Excellent, absolutely the right way to go and some hope for the future.
Awaits climate change is a hoax to control us all...
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 9, 2020 7:41:34 GMT
It looks like perhaps we’ve at last got a coherent energy policy? My concern is that as much as possible is ‘in house’ and not from the Russian etc. Nuclear power stations still have a role to play but it’s encouraging to see the renewable energy sources at forefront.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 9, 2020 7:46:19 GMT
All about the CCGT nowadays it seems, far more responsive to demand. If anyone's sad enough to be interested it shows where the power comes from on the site below - www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
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Post by raythesailor on Jun 9, 2020 7:46:20 GMT
I don’t think there can be many Coal fired stations left ?
Edit. I should have read the article/Link first 🤔⚓️
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jun 9, 2020 7:47:32 GMT
Stockpiled waiting for demand.?.
Should be more hydro schemes
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 9, 2020 7:57:46 GMT
All about the CCGT nowadays it seems, far more responsive to demand. If anyone's sad enough to be interested it shows where the power comes from on the site below - www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/Do you tap the dials when you’re on watch? 🤣
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Post by elystokie on Jun 9, 2020 8:04:07 GMT
All about the CCGT nowadays it seems, far more responsive to demand. If anyone's sad enough to be interested it shows where the power comes from on the site below - www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/Do you tap the dials when you’re on watch? 🤣 Haha, I'm done with it for now, but yes, we sometimes did
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 9, 2020 8:04:13 GMT
If only we could get rid of plastic too.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 9, 2020 8:22:35 GMT
If only we could get rid of plastic too. We can, just needs a change in the law and also in some attitudes, be a long time coming tho I fear.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 9, 2020 8:25:58 GMT
If only we could get rid of plastic too. We can, just needs a change in the law and also in some attitudes, be a long time coming tho I fear. One of my biggest concerns it drives me mad how much is in the oceans it should be banned for packaging straight off.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 9, 2020 8:34:10 GMT
If only we could get rid of plastic too. Agreed. Problem is plastic comes from oil and our global economy is entirely dependent on it, in fact it underpins everything, transport, manufacturing, energy, markets.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 9, 2020 8:35:31 GMT
We can, just needs a change in the law and also in some attitudes, be a long time coming tho I fear. One of my biggest concerns it drives me mad how much is in the oceans it should be banned for packaging straight off. We can grow hemp and use it for plastic mate, biodegrades in 3 to 6 months, and if it wasn't for a few well connected racists in the US back in the 1930s we might be using it already. It's the material of the future, I'm struggling to think of anything we get from petrochemicals that we can't get from hemp.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 9, 2020 8:54:32 GMT
If only we could get rid of plastic too. Agreed. Problem is plastic comes from oil and our global economy is entirely dependent on it, in fact it underpins everything, transport, manufacturing, energy, markets. It's about time it changed I understand the need for oil but jesus there really is no need for plastics, food packaging alone is just mental why do I need a bit of fruit and veg shrink wrapped is beyond me I'm quite happy with loose items.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 9, 2020 8:59:57 GMT
One of my biggest concerns it drives me mad how much is in the oceans it should be banned for packaging straight off. We can grow hemp and use it for plastic mate, biodegrades in 3 to 6 months, and if it wasn't for a few well connected racists in the US back in the 1930s we might be using it already. It's the material of the future, I'm struggling to think of anything we get from petrochemicals that we can't get from hemp. I know it's simple my rucksack is hemp and its robust and perfectly fine I'm pretty sure plastic could be replaced with natural products easily.
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Post by crowey on Jun 9, 2020 9:05:40 GMT
Agreed. Problem is plastic comes from oil and our global economy is entirely dependent on it, in fact it underpins everything, transport, manufacturing, energy, markets. It's about time it changed I understand the need for oil but jesus there really is no need for plastics, food packaging alone is just mental why do I need a bit of fruit and veg shrink wrapped is beyond me I'm quite happy with loose items. ..... we’re okay in Oz, just send all our coal to China. Problem solved
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Post by elystokie on Jun 9, 2020 9:08:31 GMT
We can grow hemp and use it for plastic mate, biodegrades in 3 to 6 months, and if it wasn't for a few well connected racists in the US back in the 1930s we might be using it already. It's the material of the future, I'm struggling to think of anything we get from petrochemicals that we can't get from hemp. I know it's simple my rucksack is hemp and its robust and perfectly fine I'm pretty sure plastic could be replaced with natural products easily. I'm purely guessing but I'd say that at least 95% of the materials used to make the Brit could've been replaced by hemp and it could even provide the electric for the floodlights, all whilst being renewable AND sequestering a shit load of CO2 when it grows. In addition we can get highly nutritious food and drink on a match day from it Cars - their shell, interiors and the fuel that drives them can all be got from hemp.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 9, 2020 9:14:23 GMT
It's about time it changed I understand the need for oil but jesus there really is no need for plastics, food packaging alone is just mental why do I need a bit of fruit and veg shrink wrapped is beyond me I'm quite happy with loose items. ..... we’re okay in Oz, just send all our coal to China. Problem solved And there is the problem despite good intentions the likes of the US and China have some work to do to change and the will to make those changes is not there atm.
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Post by crowey on Jun 9, 2020 9:18:49 GMT
..... we’re okay in Oz, just send all our coal to China. Problem solved And there is the problem despite good intentions the likes of the US and China have some work to do to change and the will to make those changes is not there atm. 😉
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 9, 2020 10:29:32 GMT
And as if by magic my new washer and dryer have just been delivered with more polystyrene and plastic wrapping than my empty grey bin can hold.
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 9, 2020 11:25:48 GMT
And as if by magic my new washer and dryer have just been delivered with more polystyrene and plastic wrapping than my empty grey bin can hold. Sorry if this sounds like a silly question in view of your comment about the bin, but did the appliances' delivery guys not offer to remove all the packaging and take it all away with them? I think with most places nowadays the supplier's delivery men should offer to do this for you and should do it FOC, precisely in view of all the plastic & packaging issues which customers tend to have these days. I'm just asking, anyway.
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 9, 2020 11:31:46 GMT
We can, just needs a change in the law and also in some attitudes, be a long time coming tho I fear. One of my biggest concerns it drives me mad how much is in the oceans it should be banned for packaging straight off. I can't bear to think of it - it's heartbreaking. It's also incredible to think how many people just blatantly don't care. Appalling.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 9, 2020 12:17:20 GMT
Found this out at the weekend. There is a coal mining museum here in the States that is entirely solar powered. Now that’s ace
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 9, 2020 12:59:59 GMT
And as if by magic my new washer and dryer have just been delivered with more polystyrene and plastic wrapping than my empty grey bin can hold. Sorry if this sounds like a silly question in view of your comment about the bin, but did the appliances' delivery guys not offer to remove all the packaging and take it all away with them? I think with most places nowadays the supplier's delivery men should offer to do this for you and should do it FOC, precisely in view of all the plastic & packaging issues which customers tend to have these days. I'm just asking, anyway. No mate they would take my old appliances but not the packaging and it was not offered from what I saw. Covid drop off and go....
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Post by redstriper on Jun 9, 2020 13:26:15 GMT
The passing of coal is indicative of the end of the era of the UK industrial manufacturing might.
I worked for British Coal during the 80's, and our traditional family business (run by my cousins) is coal distribution.
So i have mixed feelings about it passing into history. But given the environmental cost, it's progress.
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 9, 2020 14:36:32 GMT
Sorry if this sounds like a silly question in view of your comment about the bin, but did the appliances' delivery guys not offer to remove all the packaging and take it all away with them? I think with most places nowadays the supplier's delivery men should offer to do this for you and should do it FOC, precisely in view of all the plastic & packaging issues which customers tend to have these days. I'm just asking, anyway. No mate they would take my old appliances but not the packaging and it was not offered from what I saw. Covid drop off and go.... Hmmmm - maybe I'm just being over-suspicious, but sorry to say I'd guess the ratbags pulled a fast one & got away it. There would definitely be an argument for doing what a lot of people are apparently doing to mark their protest and outrage about the amount of plastic and/or packaging (but mainly plastic, no doubt) which supermarkets use to pack - and overpack - their products.... after the weekly food shop they take all the loot home, unpack it and keep all the excess packaging to one side, then next time they go back to the same supermarket they take it with them and deposit it on the Customer Service counter and leave it with them to dispose of. [Some people think that's an ideal solution, François - I couldn't possibly comment. ] But I suppose you could have taken all the stuff back to the showroom if you'd wanted to, apart from it being a lot of faff. I think the thing to do would probably be to get their promise to remove all the stuff before you place the order with them. Actually, come to think of it, I think I recall hearing that some supermarkets might have a 'leave it here' sort-of place where customers are welcome to return and leave packaging from that supermarket's products. Wouldn't surprise me, and it would be a good P.R. idea.
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Post by raythesailor on Jun 9, 2020 15:15:46 GMT
Have often thought/wondered that all the roof space around the BET365 could be easily turned into a substantial Solar Power Farm as well as providing underground heating etc.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 9, 2020 16:08:37 GMT
Have often thought/wondered that all the roof space around the BET365 could be easily turned into a substantial Solar Power Farm as well as providing underground heating etc. Don’t be silly Ray. It’s always windy and rainy in Stoke, ‘specially on a Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday night for some reason.
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Post by questionable on Jun 9, 2020 16:15:18 GMT
If only we could get rid of plastic too. We can, just needs a change in the law and also in some attitudes, be a long time coming tho I fear. I have extensive knowledge of the plastic industry, mainly in the food industry. There are alternatives using bio degradable materials that have been available for years but the end users won’t pay the price end of.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 9, 2020 16:23:37 GMT
We can, just needs a change in the law and also in some attitudes, be a long time coming tho I fear. I have extensive knowledge of the plastic industry, mainly in the food industry. There are alternatives using bio degradable materials that have been available for years but the end users won’t pay the price end of. Would there be no way of addressing it in a similar manner to the carrier bag revolution we've seen? Have you any idea what the relative cost would be if hemp was widely available? I'm not looking for a row, just interested
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