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Post by mattyd2 on Oct 10, 2020 17:04:43 GMT
Because awards that go back to a time of Empire, often given out in exchange for political favours shouldn't exist in my opinion........ I'm sure he's chuffed to bits with it, regardless of the fact it goes back ages, and I bet his family could not be more proud of him.
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Post by zerps on Oct 10, 2020 17:04:43 GMT
For sporting achievement which is what I think the award is for, it has to be Fury For sporting achievement, Hamilton trumps Fury by a mile. By the time of the award he'll be the most successful person that sport has ever seen in history (he'll be equal on WC, more polls than anyone else before, more podiums than anyone else before, will have more wins than anyone else before by then also). Neither will win it though (for non-sporting reasons, as i'm guessing you're alluding to), so for that reason i'm all for Rashford collecting it. You’re forgetting Hamilton’s personality 😉
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Post by zerps on Oct 10, 2020 17:05:47 GMT
Not giving it to a Gypsy is racist as fuck 🙄
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Post by mattyd2 on Oct 10, 2020 17:06:43 GMT
For sporting achievement which is what I think the award is for, it has to be Fury For sporting achievement, Hamilton trumps Fury by a mile. By the time of the award he'll be the most successful person that sport has ever seen in history (he'll be equal on WC, more polls than anyone else before, more podiums than anyone else before, will have more wins than anyone else before by then also). Neither will win it though (for non-sporting reasons, as i'm guessing you're alluding to), so for that reason i'm all for Rashford collecting it. Not sure if its a public vote, if it is then it's Rashford or Fury, and Lewis Hamilton nowhere, because people are sick of his whining attitude, and his protesting, and generally being a weapon.
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Post by TinkerT on Oct 10, 2020 17:14:17 GMT
Has to be fury but he won't win it. Why does it have to be Fury? The award is presented to a sports personality who has most captured the imagination of the public.I can think of no better candidate than Rashford! I personally would be disgusted if the racist,homophobe Fury won sports personality of the year. Its about sporting achievement with personality. I could argue all day why it should be fury but it won't, because hes not PC and the media darling.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 10, 2020 17:18:19 GMT
For sporting achievement which is what I think the award is for, it has to be Fury For sporting achievement, Hamilton trumps Fury by a mile. By the time of the award he'll be the most successful person that sport has ever seen in history (he'll be equal on WC, more polls than anyone else before, more podiums than anyone else before, will have more wins than anyone else before by then also). Neither will win it though (for non-sporting reasons, as i'm guessing you're alluding to), so for that reason i'm all for Rashford collecting it. I’d forgotten about Hamilton, a fantastic achievement. However just the story of Fury losing all that weight and his mental health issues etc I think is inspirational despite his obvious personality “flaws”. If Rashford wins it’ll be well done, I just think it should be more geared towards sporting achievement. Maybe they could invent some kind of special award where sports folk are recognised for ventures outside of sport?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 10, 2020 17:18:55 GMT
For sporting achievement, Hamilton trumps Fury by a mile. By the time of the award he'll be the most successful person that sport has ever seen in history (he'll be equal on WC, more polls than anyone else before, more podiums than anyone else before, will have more wins than anyone else before by then also). Neither will win it though (for non-sporting reasons, as i'm guessing you're alluding to), so for that reason i'm all for Rashford collecting it. Not sure if its a public vote, if it is then it's Rashford or Fury, and Lewis Hamilton nowhere, because people are sick of his whining attitude, and his protesting, and generally being a weapon. Which is what i said isn't it? He won't win it for non-sporting reasons...same as Fury. If the general public though are happier to vote for Fury (who is openly bigotted and homophobic and makes no apologies for either..fair enough, his opinion) than Hamilton just because he's "whining", then that really will exhibit what an utter shithole of a world we're living in nowadays. "Complain about racism" = whiny "Say you would hang your own sister if she was promiscuous, say publicly that women's place is either on the kitchen or on their back, say homosexuality is an indication of the coming of the devil, say Jewish people are brainwashing us all and likening transexuals to people who indulge in bestiality, get banned from the sport for 2 years for cheating" = top bloke, great banter, man of the people! P.S. i actually like Fury, but he has far, far more on his extra curricular/being outspoken rapsheet to go against him than Hamilton, hence why neither will win it
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 10, 2020 17:21:20 GMT
For sporting achievement, Hamilton trumps Fury by a mile. By the time of the award he'll be the most successful person that sport has ever seen in history (he'll be equal on WC, more polls than anyone else before, more podiums than anyone else before, will have more wins than anyone else before by then also). Neither will win it though (for non-sporting reasons, as i'm guessing you're alluding to), so for that reason i'm all for Rashford collecting it. I’d forgotten about Hamilton, a fantastic achievement. However just the story of Fury losing all that weight and his mental health issues etc I think is inspirational despite his obvious personality “flaws”. If Rashford wins it’ll be well done, I just think it should be more geared towards sporting achievement. Maybe they could invent some kind of special award where sports folk are recognised for ventures outside of sport? Agree with all of that tbh. Nowadays it is just a BBC PR exercise and basically the same voting mentality as Strictly i.e. "ooh i'll vote for him/her 'cos they're lovely" I also think that having a seperate award for sportspeople for work outside of the sport is a great idea and may stop so many daft bloody knighthoods/damehoods for sportspeople who are basically just doing their job
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Post by zerps on Oct 10, 2020 17:21:59 GMT
Not sure if its a public vote, if it is then it's Rashford or Fury, and Lewis Hamilton nowhere, because people are sick of his whining attitude, and his protesting, and generally being a weapon. Which is what i said isn't it? He won't win it for non-sporting reasons...same as Fury. If the general public though are happier to vote for Fury (who is openly bigotted and homophobic and makes no apologies for either..fair enough, his opinion) than Hamilton just because he's "whining", then that really will exhibit what an utter shithole of a world we're living in nowadays. "Complain about racism" = whiny "Say you would hang your own sister if she was promiscuous, say publicly that women's place is either on the kitchen or on their back, say homosexuality is an indication of the coming of the devil, say Jewish people are brainwashing us all and likening transexuals to people who indulge in bestiality, get banned from the sport for 2 years for cheating" = top bloke, great banter, man of the people! Please explain your prejudice against anyone indulging in bestiality?! Equal rights, it’s 2020 ffs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2020 19:25:51 GMT
Because awards that go back to a time of Empire, often given out in exchange for political favours shouldn't exist in my opinion........ I'm sure he's chuffed to bits with it, regardless of the fact it goes back ages, and I bet his family could not be more proud of him. And they should be proud of him, he’s a credit to them. I personally would politely refuse it but that’s just me....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2020 19:49:12 GMT
Why does it have to be Fury? The award is presented to a sports personality who has most captured the imagination of the public.I can think of no better candidate than Rashford! I personally would be disgusted if the racist,homophobe Fury won sports personality of the year. Its about sporting achievement with personality. I could argue all day why it should be fury but it won't, because hes not PC and the media darling. Because he’s not PC? Yes, being homophobic is the same as ‘not PC’, but please continue to downplay that, maybe one day he can run for PM.
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Post by mattyd2 on Oct 11, 2020 6:10:26 GMT
I'm sure he's chuffed to bits with it, regardless of the fact it goes back ages, and I bet his family could not be more proud of him. And they should be proud of him, he’s a credit to them. I personally would politely refuse it but that’s just me.... Well that's your choice. Bit like the Beatles did, but that was to appeal to their mass audience and sell more records. Personally I'd have never given McCartney a knighthood after returning his gong in protest...
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 11, 2020 7:21:49 GMT
Why does it have to be Fury? The award is presented to a sports personality who has most captured the imagination of the public.I can think of no better candidate than Rashford! I personally would be disgusted if the racist,homophobe Fury won sports personality of the year. Its about sporting achievement with personality. I could argue all day why it should be fury but it won't, because hes not PC and the media darling. Saying he isn't PC is far too kind. He's a racist and a homophobe. Winners of awards are supposed to be (as well as being good at what they do) examples of what we should strive to be. Racists and homophobes should not win awards - other than those awarded by groups who believe that racism and homphobia are good things.
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 11, 2020 7:24:29 GMT
Why does it have to be Fury? The award is presented to a sports personality who has most captured the imagination of the public.I can think of no better candidate than Rashford! I personally would be disgusted if the racist,homophobe Fury won sports personality of the year. Its about sporting achievement with personality. I could argue all day why it should be fury but it won't, because hes not PC and the media darling. It has nothing to do with media darlings! The integrity of the award would be rightly questioned if a homophobic racist won it.That negates any argument you could put forward in Fury's favour.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2020 12:12:48 GMT
Anyone on Twitter needs to check his timeline out today. Just awesome stuff
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 23, 2020 15:14:33 GMT
wow hes getting all the kids of the country fed, one council at a time.
great stuff
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 23, 2020 15:22:49 GMT
It’s a great story to come out of the worst year in my lifetime. Bravo to Rashford for this campaign and for showing up the government.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 23, 2020 15:28:45 GMT
Its about sporting achievement with personality. I could argue all day why it should be fury but it won't, because hes not PC and the media darling. Saying he isn't PC is far too kind. He's a racist and a homophobe. Winners of awards are supposed to be (as well as being good at what they do) examples of what we should strive to be. Racists and homophobes should not win awards - other than those awarded by groups who believe that racism and homphobia are good things. Sorry what's the racist thing?
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Post by femark on Oct 23, 2020 16:08:55 GMT
Which is what i said isn't it? He won't win it for non-sporting reasons...same as Fury. If the general public though are happier to vote for Fury (who is openly bigotted and homophobic and makes no apologies for either..fair enough, his opinion) than Hamilton just because he's "whining", then that really will exhibit what an utter shithole of a world we're living in nowadays. "Complain about racism" = whiny "Say you would hang your own sister if she was promiscuous, say publicly that women's place is either on the kitchen or on their back, say homosexuality is an indication of the coming of the devil, say Jewish people are brainwashing us all and likening transexuals to people who indulge in bestiality, get banned from the sport for 2 years for cheating" = top bloke, great banter, man of the people! Please explain your prejudice against anyone indulging in bestiality?! Equal rights, it’s 2020 ffs. Currently it's thought of as abhorrent and is illegal. Just like homosexuality used to be. Who knows, maybe in 20 years time we'll all be protesting for man-dog marriage
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Post by zerps on Oct 23, 2020 16:12:01 GMT
Please explain your prejudice against anyone indulging in bestiality?! Equal rights, it’s 2020 ffs. Currently it's thought of as abhorrent and is illegal. Just like homosexuality used to be. Who knows, maybe in 20 years time we'll all be protesting for man-dog marriage You have to keep an open mind mate or it’s a hate crime
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 23, 2020 16:14:06 GMT
Saying he isn't PC is far too kind. He's a racist and a homophobe. Winners of awards are supposed to be (as well as being good at what they do) examples of what we should strive to be. Racists and homophobes should not win awards - other than those awarded by groups who believe that racism and homphobia are good things. Sorry what's the racist thing? I think most of his alleged racism is related to his anti semitic outbursts a few years back. He has also criticised successive governments for being pro immigrant - despite being from Irish immigrant parents himself.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 23, 2020 16:28:02 GMT
I’d forgotten about Hamilton, a fantastic achievement. However just the story of Fury losing all that weight and his mental health issues etc I think is inspirational despite his obvious personality “flaws”. If Rashford wins it’ll be well done, I just think it should be more geared towards sporting achievement. Maybe they could invent some kind of special award where sports folk are recognised for ventures outside of sport? Agree with all of that tbh. Nowadays it is just a BBC PR exercise and basically the same voting mentality as Strictly i.e. "ooh i'll vote for him/her 'cos they're lovely" I also think that having a seperate award for sportspeople for work outside of the sport is a great idea and may stop so many daft bloody knighthoods/damehoods for sportspeople who are basically just doing their job SPOTY is a total farce. Carl Fogarty, 4 world titles and a TT victory in 90. And no where to be seen on SPOTY. What a disgrace.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 16:30:56 GMT
Please explain your prejudice against anyone indulging in bestiality?! Equal rights, it’s 2020 ffs. Currently it's thought of as abhorrent and is illegal. Just like homosexuality used to be. Who knows, maybe in 20 years time we'll all be protesting for man-dog marriage Good news for keith Lard
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Post by zerps on Oct 23, 2020 16:33:32 GMT
Currently it's thought of as abhorrent and is illegal. Just like homosexuality used to be. Who knows, maybe in 20 years time we'll all be protesting for man-dog marriage Good news for keith Lard Is he drawing a dog
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 23, 2020 16:33:52 GMT
Sorry what's the racist thing? I think most of his alleged racism is related to his anti semitic outbursts a few years back. He has also criticised successive governments for being pro immigrant - despite being from Irish immigrant parents himself. Hmm. He did apologise for the antisemitic outburst and being anti-immigration isn't racism.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 23, 2020 17:22:53 GMT
I think most of his alleged racism is related to his anti semitic outbursts a few years back. He has also criticised successive governments for being pro immigrant - despite being from Irish immigrant parents himself. Hmm. He did apologise for the antisemitic outburst and being anti-immigration isn't racism. I'm not sure if the apology means that he is no longer racist. His apologies for many of his outbursts seem to have been uttered when his boxing had progressed to the point where the apologies seemed like a good career move. I remember reading what he had said about immigrants and the fact that he was of Irish stock - and it sounded racist to me. I'm not saying he hasn't a right to earn his living by boxing nor that he is not a good boxer - I would simply prefer that awards such as SPOTY were given to sports persons who had not uttered some of the rubbish he uttered in days gone by. Purely a personal opinion - and I am too long in the tooth to change it now.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 23, 2020 17:26:37 GMT
Rashford shames the filth that currently run this country.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 17:50:07 GMT
And they should be proud of him, he’s a credit to them. I personally would politely refuse it but that’s just me.... Well that's your choice. Bit like the Beatles did, but that was to appeal to their mass audience and sell more records. Personally I'd have never given McCartney a knighthood after returning his gong in protest... He should have been sent to some Snake Pliskin style facility for Pipes of Peace and Wonderful Christmastime alone never mind knighted
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Post by ChesterStokie on Oct 23, 2020 17:51:26 GMT
For sporting achievement which is what I think the award is for, it has to be Fury For sporting achievement, Hamilton trumps Fury by a mile. By the time of the award he'll be the most successful person that sport has ever seen in history (he'll be equal on WC, more polls than anyone else before, more podiums than anyone else before, will have more wins than anyone else by then also). Neither will win it though (for non-sporting reasons, as i'm guessing you're alluding to), so for that reason i'm all for Rashford collecting it. Is motor racing actually a sport?
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Post by madnellie on Oct 23, 2020 18:35:03 GMT
Rashford shames the filth that currently run this country. Wish there was some way I could like this post more than once!
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