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Post by boothenboys1863 on Jun 4, 2020 9:30:15 GMT
Is it just me who feels angry and let down by what's happening in the world?
All this coronavirus and the potential/inevitable recession that's about to hit us. Most construction companies have forced a 10-20% pay cut on their employees through no fault of our own.
Then all this black lives matter is getting out of hand. It's one thing rightly protesting but looting and making it anti white is fucking pathetic.
I'm sick of being told I'm privaliged to be a white male. I haven't had fuck all given too me everything I have I've worked my arse off for. Since leaving school at 16 I've worked and saved to make my self where I am today. Anyone can do that it's a load of bollocks that only white people can make something from themselves.
I've never once claimed any sort of benefits I looked when the lockdown started and I'm eligible to absolutely nothing so does that make a black person entitled to universal credits more privileged than me Or doesn't that matter because the shoe is on the other foot.
Black people in the UK have got it good compared to black people in the middle East or even africa. So for them to throw bottles and attack police officers in London because of something that happened in America is daft.
Sorry for the rant I could go on for longer and sorry if it offends anyone.
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Post by dexta on Jun 4, 2020 10:03:34 GMT
Is it just me who feels angry and let down by what's happening in the world? All this coronavirus and the potential/inevitable recession that's about to hit us. Most construction companies have forced a 10-20% pay cut on their employees through no fault of our own. Then all this black lives matter is getting out of hand. It's one thing rightly protesting but looting and making it anti white is fucking pathetic. I'm sick of being told I'm privaliged to be a white male. I haven't had fuck all given too me everything I have I've worked my arse off for. Since leaving school at 16 I've worked and saved to make my self where I am today. Anyone can do that it's a load of bollocks that only white people can make something from themselves. I've never once claimed any sort of benefits I looked when the lockdown started and I'm eligible to absolutely nothing so does that make a black person entitled to universal credits more privileged than me Or doesn't that matter because the shoe is on the other foot. Black people in the UK have got it good compared to black people in the middle East or even africa. So for them to throw bottles and attack police officers in London because of something that happened in America is daft. Sorry for the rant I could go on for longer and sorry if it offends anyone. that's the trouble now every fucker wants something for nothing as a nation we have gone to soft.. Not just black people all creeds in this country just expect it now.. When I left school at 16 on a Friday. Monday morning I was down the pit just the way it was back then father did it so son did it.never done me any harm worked all my life. Never had a credit card was brought up to work for the things I wanted in life. I really feel for the next generation half of them are being dragged up not brought up.. They will just see it as the norm to be on benefits etc. |
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Post by noustie on Jun 4, 2020 10:07:23 GMT
This is worth a watch.
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Jun 4, 2020 12:05:20 GMT
Is it just me who feels angry and let down by what's happening in the world? All this coronavirus and the potential/inevitable recession that's about to hit us. Most construction companies have forced a 10-20% pay cut on their employees through no fault of our own. Then all this black lives matter is getting out of hand. It's one thing rightly protesting but looting and making it anti white is fucking pathetic. I'm sick of being told I'm privaliged to be a white male. I haven't had fuck all given too me everything I have I've worked my arse off for. Since leaving school at 16 I've worked and saved to make my self where I am today. Anyone can do that it's a load of bollocks that only white people can make something from themselves. I've never once claimed any sort of benefits I looked when the lockdown started and I'm eligible to absolutely nothing so does that make a black person entitled to universal credits more privileged than me Or doesn't that matter because the shoe is on the other foot. Black people in the UK have got it good compared to black people in the middle East or even africa. So for them to throw bottles and attack police officers in London because of something that happened in America is daft. Sorry for the rant I could go on for longer and sorry if it offends anyone. that's the trouble now every fucker wants something for nothing as a nation we have gone to soft.. Not just black people all creeds in this country just expect it now.. When I left school at 16 on a Friday. Monday morning I was down the pit just the way it was back then father did it so son did it.never done me any harm worked all my life. Never had a credit card was brought up to work for the things I wanted in life. I really feel for the next generation half of them are being dragged up not brought up.. They will just see it as the norm to be on benefits etc. It fucks me off something rotten mate.. It's beyond a joke luckily I'm in a position where I didn't need any help during the lockdown but I had a look and I wasn't entitled to a penny I'm self employed and couldn't get any help from the government via benefits or the self employed protection scheme. It's a joke yet I could have 3 kids and no job and get money where is the justice in that? |
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Post by danceswithclams on Jun 4, 2020 12:14:36 GMT
It's run by cunts and the majority of people in it are cunts.
Next question please.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 4, 2020 12:20:35 GMT
Is it just me who feels angry and let down by what's happening in the world? All this coronavirus and the potential/inevitable recession that's about to hit us. Most construction companies have forced a 10-20% pay cut on their employees through no fault of our own. Then all this black lives matter is getting out of hand. It's one thing rightly protesting but looting and making it anti white is fucking pathetic. I'm sick of being told I'm privaliged to be a white male. I haven't had fuck all given too me everything I have I've worked my arse off for. Since leaving school at 16 I've worked and saved to make my self where I am today. Anyone can do that it's a load of bollocks that only white people can make something from themselves. I've never once claimed any sort of benefits I looked when the lockdown started and I'm eligible to absolutely nothing so does that make a black person entitled to universal credits more privileged than me Or doesn't that matter because the shoe is on the other foot. Black people in the UK have got it good compared to black people in the middle East or even africa. So for them to throw bottles and attack police officers in London because of something that happened in America is daft. Sorry for the rant I could go on for longer and sorry if it offends anyone. that's the trouble now every fucker wants something for nothing as a nation we have gone to soft.. Not just black people all creeds in this country just expect it now.. When I left school at 16 on a Friday. Monday morning I was down the pit just the way it was back then father did it so son did it.never done me any harm worked all my life. Never had a credit card was brought up to work for the things I wanted in life. I really feel for the next generation half of them are being dragged up not brought up.. They will just see it as the norm to be on benefits etc. You lucky b@$Â¥@&d, when I left school, unemployment was over 3m & the jobs at the pit were being shut. YTS |
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Post by thevoid on Jun 4, 2020 12:51:50 GMT
When I left school it was straight down the pit for a 20 hour shift mining uranium, no sleep inbetween and no protective gear. You had a 10 minute break, and when you got home you had tripe on a cracker for tea before going to sleep on a bed of rusty nails and barbed wire. End of the week, the gaffer punched you in the chops before handing you an envelope containing 10p.
Them were the days.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jun 4, 2020 12:56:29 GMT
Is it just me who feels angry and let down by what's happening in the world? All this coronavirus and the potential/inevitable recession that's about to hit us. Most construction companies have forced a 10-20% pay cut on their employees through no fault of our own. Then all this black lives matter is getting out of hand. It's one thing rightly protesting but looting and making it anti white is fucking pathetic. I'm sick of being told I'm privaliged to be a white male. I haven't had fuck all given too me everything I have I've worked my arse off for. Since leaving school at 16 I've worked and saved to make my self where I am today. Anyone can do that it's a load of bollocks that only white people can make something from themselves. I've never once claimed any sort of benefits I looked when the lockdown started and I'm eligible to absolutely nothing so does that make a black person entitled to universal credits more privileged than me Or doesn't that matter because the shoe is on the other foot. Black people in the UK have got it good compared to black people in the middle East or even africa. So for them to throw bottles and attack police officers in London because of something that happened in America is daft. Sorry for the rant I could go on for longer and sorry if it offends anyone. Just a quick pick up point from me but it is important to understand that white privilege has nothing to do with wealth or materialistic things being given or passed to you. |
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Post by walstoke on Jun 4, 2020 12:58:16 GMT
When I left school it was straight down the pit for a 20 hour shift mining uranium, no sleep inbetween and no protective gear. You had a 10 minute break, and when you got home you had tripe on a cracker for tea before going to sleep on a bed of rusty nails and barbed wire. End of the week, the gaffer punched you in the chops before handing you an envelope containing 10p. Them were the days. you got work, outrage, I only got up 😯 |
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Post by felonious on Jun 4, 2020 13:00:02 GMT
that's the trouble now every fucker wants something for nothing as a nation we have gone to soft.. Not just black people all creeds in this country just expect it now.. When I left school at 16 on a Friday. Monday morning I was down the pit just the way it was back then father did it so son did it.never done me any harm worked all my life. Never had a credit card was brought up to work for the things I wanted in life. I really feel for the next generation half of them are being dragged up not brought up.. They will just see it as the norm to be on benefits etc. It fucks me off something rotten mate.. It's beyond a joke luckily I'm in a position where I didn't need any help during the lockdown but I had a look and I wasn't entitled to a penny I'm self employed and couldn't get any help from the government via benefits or the self employed protection scheme. It's a joke yet I could have 3 kids and no job and get money where is the justice in that? Are you saying that you've worked throughout or you haven't been able to work? If you've worked since lockdown then quite rightly you're due no support. If you've not worked then the self employment support grant is available unless you've got significant income levels or significant other income. Additionally there's the new 100% guaranteed bounce back loan system and mortgage help. |
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Post by felonious on Jun 4, 2020 13:01:07 GMT
When I left school it was straight down the pit for a 20 hour shift mining uranium, no sleep inbetween and no protective gear. You had a 10 minute break, and when you got home you had tripe on a cracker for tea before going to sleep on a bed of rusty nails and barbed wire. End of the week, the gaffer punched you in the chops before handing you an envelope containing 10p. Them were the days. This explains so much Voj  |
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Post by dexta on Jun 4, 2020 13:14:15 GMT
that's the trouble now every fucker wants something for nothing as a nation we have gone to soft.. Not just black people all creeds in this country just expect it now.. When I left school at 16 on a Friday. Monday morning I was down the pit just the way it was back then father did it so son did it.never done me any harm worked all my life. Never had a credit card was brought up to work for the things I wanted in life. I really feel for the next generation half of them are being dragged up not brought up.. They will just see it as the norm to be on benefits etc. You lucky b@$Â¥@&d, when I left school, unemployment was over 3m & the jobs at the pit were being shut. YTS I must be just a little bit older than you owd |
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Jun 4, 2020 17:14:05 GMT
It fucks me off something rotten mate.. It's beyond a joke luckily I'm in a position where I didn't need any help during the lockdown but I had a look and I wasn't entitled to a penny I'm self employed and couldn't get any help from the government via benefits or the self employed protection scheme. It's a joke yet I could have 3 kids and no job and get money where is the justice in that? Are you saying that you've worked throughout or you haven't been able to work? If you've worked since lockdown then quite rightly you're due no support. If you've not worked then the self employment support grant is available unless you've got significant income levels or significant other income. Additionally there's the new 100% guaranteed bounce back loan system and mortgage help. I had 4 weeks off mate, wasn't entitled to the self employed scheme because in 17/18 I earned more as PAYE than i did self employed. But if I hadn't have worked in 17/18 I would have been entitled where is the sense in that? |
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Jun 4, 2020 19:41:22 GMT
Is it just me who feels angry and let down by what's happening in the world? All this coronavirus and the potential/inevitable recession that's about to hit us. Most construction companies have forced a 10-20% pay cut on their employees through no fault of our own. Then all this black lives matter is getting out of hand. It's one thing rightly protesting but looting and making it anti white is fucking pathetic. I'm sick of being told I'm privaliged to be a white male. I haven't had fuck all given too me everything I have I've worked my arse off for. Since leaving school at 16 I've worked and saved to make my self where I am today. Anyone can do that it's a load of bollocks that only white people can make something from themselves. I've never once claimed any sort of benefits I looked when the lockdown started and I'm eligible to absolutely nothing so does that make a black person entitled to universal credits more privileged than me Or doesn't that matter because the shoe is on the other foot. Black people in the UK have got it good compared to black people in the middle East or even africa. So for them to throw bottles and attack police officers in London because of something that happened in America is daft. Sorry for the rant I could go on for longer and sorry if it offends anyone. Just a quick pick up point from me but it is important to understand that white privilege has nothing to do with wealth or materialistic things being given or passed to you. 100% this. This is what people need to understand. A white person can't possibly sit there and say, "black people in the UK have got it good." White people don't experience the deeply saddening undercurrent of racism that exists in the world and never have. That's white privilege. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 4, 2020 19:48:50 GMT
When I left school it was straight down the pit for a 20 hour shift mining uranium, no sleep inbetween and no protective gear. You had a 10 minute break, and when you got home you had tripe on a cracker for tea before going to sleep on a bed of rusty nails and barbed wire. End of the week, the gaffer punched you in the chops before handing you an envelope containing 10p. Them were the days. You were lucky! . . . . . |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 22:30:09 GMT
When I left school it was straight down the pit for a 20 hour shift mining uranium, no sleep inbetween and no protective gear. You had a 10 minute break, and when you got home you had tripe on a cracker for tea before going to sleep on a bed of rusty nails and barbed wire. End of the week, the gaffer punched you in the chops before handing you an envelope containing 10p. Them were the days. Hang on How were you paid in sterling and fed tripe as there are no Uranium mines in the UK? Am starting to doubt parts of this story. |
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Jun 5, 2020 9:13:23 GMT
Just a quick pick up point from me but it is important to understand that white privilege has nothing to do with wealth or materialistic things being given or passed to you. 100% this. This is what people need to understand. A white person can't possibly sit there and say, "black people in the UK have got it good." White people don't experience the deeply saddening undercurrent of racism that exists in the world and never have. That's white privilege. So at what point in my life have I been more privileged than a black person? Look don't get me wrong I know racism exists but not from me it doesn't. But does stereotyping a black male as a criminal and a white male as privaliged have any difference it's still stereotyping |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jun 5, 2020 11:24:23 GMT
100% this. This is what people need to understand. A white person can't possibly sit there and say, "black people in the UK have got it good." White people don't experience the deeply saddening undercurrent of racism that exists in the world and never have. That's white privilege. So at what point in my life have I been more privileged than a black person? Look don't get me wrong I know racism exists but not from me it doesn't. But does stereotyping a black male as a criminal and a white male as privaliged have any difference it's still stereotyping
Just a bit, yes!
People are killed by the very institution that are supposed to protect them because of the sterotype of a black male being a criminal....How many people have you seen murdered by policemen, simply because they were stereotyped as having "white privilege"?
What a fucking ridiculous question. Whilst i agree that neither should be stereotyped, to ask if there's any difference between the 2 is utterly ignorant.
Sterotyping people has consequences, it isn't just words being thrown around and nothing more. There are very, very few negative consequences in Western society to being a white male (other than them getting pissed off on social media simply because of their own ignorance and the fact they don't understand just how different life is from the very outset for them, solely because of their skin colour).
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 5, 2020 12:07:09 GMT
100% this. This is what people need to understand. A white person can't possibly sit there and say, "black people in the UK have got it good." White people don't experience the deeply saddening undercurrent of racism that exists in the world and never have. That's white privilege. So at what point in my life have I been more privileged than a black person? Look don't get me wrong I know racism exists but not from me it doesn't. But does stereotyping a black male as a criminal and a white male as privaliged have any difference it's still stereotyping I'll have a go at responding, but it'll be more about pointing people in a direction to find out more, I think. I agree with the sentiment of your opening post but just by being born white and male, you're privileged. I'm white and male too. Yep, I've felt hard done by and even marginalised at times. I'm a child of a single parent who grew up on a council estate, and I've worked hard for everything I have too. I missed out on being furloughed by 3 days, and felt done over by the government again. It can seem unfair and we all make the best of what we have, but that's nothing to to with white privilege, and it doesn't have to be about money. I understand why some people may respond to "black lives matter" with "all lives matter." Of course all lives matter, but that's not the point. The spirit of "black lives matter" wasn't intended to be anti-white, so yes, it's pathetic if people are making it into that. Black people have been oppressed and marginalised for hundreds of years, and that history is still real now. It still impacts black people's lives, and black people continue to be at a disadvantage in comparison to white people, all other things being equal. If anyone wants insight as entertainment (that's not meant to be a flippant comment and there must be a better word than "entertainment"), watch films like Green Book, The Help, Hidden Figures, BlacKkKlansman and 12 Years A Slave. They're all based on real events, show examples of black people being written out of history, and I know at least a couple of those have black directors and writers. And these sort of things are still happening - black people are still living with this discrimination and at some point many black parents may have to have "a talk" with their children. The film Black Panther was such a big deal because it was a superhero film that was a success with a predominantly black cast. It was a first, and that was only in 2018. Film makers believed a film with a predominantly black cast couldn't be a success, that it'd flop and lose lots of money - that's why it took so long to make such a big budget film. Even looking at major issues in relatively recent history - the lack of black footballers, apartheid in South Africa until the 1990s. Even still as we're on a football forum, the lack of black football managers and black people in important positions (such as the FA). To paraphrase the tabloids, Raheem Sterling (black) buys a house for his parents and he's wasting money. Phil Foden (white) buys a house for his parents and he's being a good little boy. That is far from an isolated example. Black people get wrongly accused of crimes at a far higher percentage than white people. That's fact, not stereotyping, though may partly be as a result of stereotyping. I think white people (in general) take so much credit for black culture as well. Rock music is dominated by white people, yet it was invented by black people. This isn't a joke, but imagine the discrimination a black, disabled, gay woman must face. Four discriminated groups in one. Even if people aren't racist, an unconscious bias may exist. People passing up someone for a job because they have a foreign-sounding name, for example. It happens, even unintentionally. Maybe look for thoughts of black people you admire or for black people doing something you like that's white-dominated. What do they say about life as a black person? Read or listen. I'm thankful to have friends and family who've opened my mind up to discrimination of different groups, and it's something I felt was important for me to try and understand further. I Googled and this came up top: www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/janaya-future-khan-privilege More: thoughtcatalog.com/cehudspeth/2013/06/the-7-worst-things-about-being-a-black-person/Here's a Black Lives Matter article from 2016: www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37715090/that-black-british-feeling-does-the-uk-need-black-lives-matterThere's an answer here (to me it looked like it ended, but it continued on and past the pictures - it's all relevant): www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-black-in-BritainI heard a good interview with a black woman by Colin Murray that starts about 1:50:30 in here (and continues after the news): www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000jpymMaybe just look at one of those links I've provided for a start, and seek out the views of black and non-white people. Hopefully it helps!  |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jun 5, 2020 12:07:29 GMT
100% this. This is what people need to understand. A white person can't possibly sit there and say, "black people in the UK have got it good." White people don't experience the deeply saddening undercurrent of racism that exists in the world and never have. That's white privilege. So at what point in my life have I been more privileged than a black person? Look don't get me wrong I know racism exists but not from me it doesn't. But does stereotyping a black male as a criminal and a white male as privaliged have any difference it's still stereotyping Think the argument is that since black people (vastly moreso in the USA than here) have been held back for so long (slavery, segregation / Jim Crow laws etc) whilst white culture advanced, to then just say "You're free and equal now" after the Civil Rights movement still didn't really make them equal, since they had so much ground to make up. I don't particularly agree with the term "white privilege" because that implies white people enjoy something gifted to them, when really there needs to be a term that essentially means the same, but approaches it from the perspective that black people have had something denied from them instead. I think it's dangerous to indoctrinate young white people into feeling they are privileged as this could lead to guilt and any number of mental health problems. Yes, we all have struggles in life regardless of race, definitely agree with that. The argument is that considering we're the dominant culture and the default though, our struggles are easier to deal with. I'm not necessarily saying I agree with that, but that's my understanding of it. Of course, if you're not black, it's impossible to fully empathise with the black experience, so you have to consider that if you're preparing an argument against the theory. |
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Post by musik on Jun 5, 2020 12:30:55 GMT
Is it just me who feels angry and let down by what's happening in the world? All this coronavirus and the potential/inevitable recession that's about to hit us. Most construction companies have forced a 10-20% pay cut on their employees through no fault of our own. Then all this black lives matter is getting out of hand. It's one thing rightly protesting but looting and making it anti white is fucking pathetic. I'm sick of being told I'm privaliged to be a white male. I haven't had fuck all given too me everything I have I've worked my arse off for. Since leaving school at 16 I've worked and saved to make my self where I am today. Anyone can do that it's a load of bollocks that only white people can make something from themselves. I've never once claimed any sort of benefits I looked when the lockdown started and I'm eligible to absolutely nothing so does that make a black person entitled to universal credits more privileged than me Or doesn't that matter because the shoe is on the other foot. Black people in the UK have got it good compared to black people in the middle East or even africa. So for them to throw bottles and attack police officers in London because of something that happened in America is daft. Sorry for the rant I could go on for longer and sorry if it offends anyone. My guess: A race war is going on. |
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jun 5, 2020 16:42:44 GMT
Just a quick pick up point from me but it is important to understand that white privilege has nothing to do with wealth or materialistic things being given or passed to you. 100% this. This is what people need to understand. A white person can't possibly sit there and say, "black people in the UK have got it good." White people don't experience the deeply saddening undercurrent of racism that exists in the world and never have. That's white privilege. Why can't they.,? |
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Jun 5, 2020 17:09:25 GMT
So at what point in my life have I been more privileged than a black person? Look don't get me wrong I know racism exists but not from me it doesn't. But does stereotyping a black male as a criminal and a white male as privaliged have any difference it's still stereotyping
Just a bit, yes!
People are killed by the very institution that are supposed to protect them because of the sterotype of a black male being a criminal....How many people have you seen murdered by policemen, simply because they were stereotyped as having "white privilege"?
What a fucking ridiculous question. Whilst i agree that neither should be stereotyped, to ask if there's any difference between the 2 is utterly ignorant.
Sterotyping people has consequences, it isn't just words being thrown around and nothing more. There are very, very few negative consequences in Western society to being a white male (other than them getting pissed off on social media simply because of their own ignorance and the fact they don't understand just how different life is from the very outset for them, solely because of their skin colour).
Ok so based on your black people been killed for stereotyping as criminals. What is the difference between a group of black males walking through a shopping centre or a group of white males walking around a football ground. Both will be treated differently does that mean that in that situation that said group of black males are more privaliged than white males? I don't want get into this it's going down a path that we will clearly disagree on. I'm all for BLM and the protests are called for however looting and rioting isn't the answer doesn't shine any light on them. Killing other black people whilst protesting about the lives of black people is fucking hideous. I'm not a black male neither am I American so I guess I will never really understand but to then start defacing cenotaphs in London for an incident that happened in America surely you'd agree that's fucking daft? They are protesting about other peoples perceptions of their race by proving the other people right? |
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Jun 5, 2020 17:10:04 GMT
100% this. This is what people need to understand. A white person can't possibly sit there and say, "black people in the UK have got it good." White people don't experience the deeply saddening undercurrent of racism that exists in the world and never have. That's white privilege. Why can't they.,? Because it doesn't fit the left's agenda mate |
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Post by mattyd on Jun 5, 2020 17:32:37 GMT
5G is scrambling our brains and turning us against each other.
There can be no other explanation.
RISE OF THE MACHINES...
Are you Sarah Connor....
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jun 5, 2020 17:57:06 GMT
Because it doesn't fit the left's agenda mate Showing some basic humility and accepting that there are some things you just don't understand because you've never experienced them, is now being a "leftie"? Most people simply see it as being a decent human being! Good god, you really have outed yourself here as the stereo typical "i don't get it so shout leftie at people" type of mouthbreather haven't you? You do realise most Tories and many Republicans (i.e. "righties") have also shown public support for BLM? Let me guess...you're the typical facebook, knuckle dragger that don't because you simply read tag lines in tabloids, don't really know what left and right actually means in politics, but just think you voted Tory so everything you disagree with or don't understand (due to your own ignorance) must therefore be "left"? What the fuck happened to education in this country?? |
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Jun 5, 2020 18:33:54 GMT
Because it doesn't fit the left's agenda mate Showing some basic humility and accepting that there are some things you just don't understand because you've never experienced them, is now being a "leftie"? Most people simply see it as being a decent human being! Good god, you really have outed yourself here as the stereo typical "i don't get it so shout leftie at people" type of mouthbreather haven't you? You do realise most Tories and many Republicans (i.e. "righties") have also shown public support for BLM? Let me guess...you're the typical facebook, knuckle dragger that don't because you simply read tag lines in tabloids, don't really know what left and right actually means in politics, but just think you voted Tory so everything you disagree with or don't understand (due to your own ignorance) must therefore be "left"? What the fuck happened to education in this country?? Are you just choosing to ignore the previous post I put to you? As for me being a knuckle dragger tabloid reading right winger you've got me all wrong. I'm neither more towards right/left I'm neither more towards labour/conservative both sides have things I like about them both sides have things I don't like about them. But that's for me to decide and it doesn't mean I'm a "knuckle dragger" for having a different opinion from yours. Let me guess your more left wing because your first point of reaction is aggression don't get your own way, attack. Left all over.. If you think that defacing a cenotaph that remembers all races in the name of a not so innocent black man (let's not forget he's been in and out of jail all his life and served 5 years for robbing a pregnant women at gunpoint) is justifiable then we will never agree and the best solution is agreeing to not agree. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jun 5, 2020 18:45:50 GMT
Showing some basic humility and accepting that there are some things you just don't understand because you've never experienced them, is now being a "leftie"? Most people simply see it as being a decent human being! Good god, you really have outed yourself here as the stereo typical "i don't get it so shout leftie at people" type of mouthbreather haven't you? You do realise most Tories and many Republicans (i.e. "righties") have also shown public support for BLM? Let me guess...you're the typical facebook, knuckle dragger that don't because you simply read tag lines in tabloids, don't really know what left and right actually means in politics, but just think you voted Tory so everything you disagree with or don't understand (due to your own ignorance) must therefore be "left"? What the fuck happened to education in this country?? Are you just choosing to ignore the previous post I put to you? As for me being a knuckle dragger tabloid reading right winger you've got me all wrong. I'm neither more towards right/left I'm neither more towards labour/conservative both sides have things I like about them both sides have things I don't like about them. But that's for me to decide and it doesn't mean I'm a "knuckle dragger" for having a different opinion from yours. Let me guess your more left wing because your first point of reaction is aggression don't get your own way, attack. Left all over.. If you think that defacing a cenotaph that remembers all races in the name of a not so innocent black man (let's not forget he's been in and out of jail all his life and served 5 years for robbing a pregnant women at gunpoint) is justifiable then we will never agree and the best solution is agreeing to not agree. Ok. So, i can see the issue now. Our misunderstanding is because you've actually COMPLETELY missed the whole point of the entire situation with BLM and the protests in the first place. The very fact that you think this is all about the death of ONE man, clearly proves that. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 5, 2020 18:55:40 GMT
100% this. This is what people need to understand. A white person can't possibly sit there and say, "black people in the UK have got it good." White people don't experience the deeply saddening undercurrent of racism that exists in the world and never have. That's white privilege. Why can't they.,? I am white, and can vouch for the fact, on a very small scale, that prejudice can work both ways, and the Black Community are certainly not shy about coming forward and expressing their views on "Whitey". I don't have a problem with that particularly but I can certainly speak from experience. In the 70's, even 10 years after the introduction of the race relations act, there were still clearly issues to be faced. I was working in Hockley, in Birmingham, just up the road from Handsworth and I hadn't been there long, when one day I was investigating pubs. I found one that looked ok, but on approaching the door a big black guy stepped out of the entrance and very firmly denied me access, saying "sorry man, but its black only in here.". Being white I had been stopped from being served in a black only bar. Perhaps more seriously, during the same period, I was seeing a very nice black girl in Sparkbrook, again Bham, and I had arranged to see her on the Friday evening at the Swan, a big pub in Yardley. I was approaching the pub when, from nowhere, 4 black "brothers" surrounded me. I felt like the guy in the 10cc "Dreadlock Holiday" song. (You'd better understand that you're alone). Over the course of 10 mins they managed to put across their view that "Simone was far too good for a white guy like me, that I should keep my hands off her and leave well alone, and they didn't expect to see me in the area again". Although there were people around as it was a busy evening nobody sought to intervene or help me. (Sound familiar?) I wasn't "hurt" especially but the brothers certainly took the view that a white man and a black girl shouldn't be involved together. I did see Simone that evening but that was indeed my last time, apart from a few phone conversations. I never knew if the "intervention" was planned, or how the guys knew me, or indeed how much the girl Simone knew about things or how she was involved. But I was certainly left in no doubt that these guys were certainly no fans of white people. So yes these things can work both ways, and white people can experience and feel prejudice from other racial groups. |
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Jun 5, 2020 18:57:57 GMT
Are you just choosing to ignore the previous post I put to you? As for me being a knuckle dragger tabloid reading right winger you've got me all wrong. I'm neither more towards right/left I'm neither more towards labour/conservative both sides have things I like about them both sides have things I don't like about them. But that's for me to decide and it doesn't mean I'm a "knuckle dragger" for having a different opinion from yours. Let me guess your more left wing because your first point of reaction is aggression don't get your own way, attack. Left all over.. If you think that defacing a cenotaph that remembers all races in the name of a not so innocent black man (let's not forget he's been in and out of jail all his life and served 5 years for robbing a pregnant women at gunpoint) is justifiable then we will never agree and the best solution is agreeing to not agree. Ok. So, i can see the issue now. Our misunderstanding is because you've actually COMPLETELY missed the whole point of the entire situation with BLM and the protests in the first place. The very fact that you think this is all about the death of ONE man, clearly proves that. And flip it it back at you, you've missed my point. Is the best way to prove that black lives matter (not that I'm saying it should need to be proven) by being anti white? by looting? Robbing people? Destroying businesses of all races? Killing people of all races in the name of BLM surely you can see my point? There's ways about it without all the above happening. To be pro one thing doesn't mean you have to anti the other. |
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