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Post by biglad180 on Aug 6, 2020 17:16:47 GMT
i think if these are the players that we are going for ie Fletcher and is it jones from Rangers we will not be anywhere near the playoffs we need much better, i wood sooner go down the loan market trail, both Leeds and west brom used it last season with success,as we did last time we got promotion, dont lets waist more money on has beans, i wood check out top premier league clubs reserves teams, thats why we need top scouts it could save us millions I thought the consensus on here was that we don't want a heal of loans as we are back to square one if and when they return to parent clubs. Maybe we don't want has-beens but young never-done-it/maybe-never-will players are equally a gamble. thats why i said we need top scouts mate its up to them to find the best talent,everything is a gamble but it seems to me the teams that go up have the younger loan signings than the older ones,
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Post by Goonie on Aug 6, 2020 17:18:27 GMT
Players named Fletcher always work out well for us!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2020 18:39:03 GMT
If Steven Fletcher is our level of interest at 18k a week, we have learnt nothing at all. He's 33 for christ sake. This board has been crying out for pace in our players not decrepit snails. He'd struggle to get in the Sunderland team at the moment and that's saying something. The manager will be picking the players and this is the problem with choping and changing, its fine having an experienced pro or two that will do us a job the problem is each manager wants a different one and we're stuck with a team full
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2020 18:47:10 GMT
If the guy who saved our club's sorry arses this season thinks he will improve us then that makes it OK with me. He's more than a judge of a player than any of us on here.
33 may seem old but if he's looked after himself I bet he's in better shape than a few quite a bit younger than him who MON seemed to hint had let themselves and the club down after lockdown. Christiano Ronaldo is 35, Zlatan Ibrahimović is nearly 39, they can still cut it at their level, whose to say Fletcher can't still cut it at his level if he's looked after his body. Is he because his signings so far have been pretty shit on the whole.
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Post by baystokie on Aug 6, 2020 19:29:21 GMT
If the guy who saved our club's sorry arses this season thinks he will improve us then that makes it OK with me. He's more than a judge of a player than any of us on here.
33 may seem old but if he's looked after himself I bet he's in better shape than a few quite a bit younger than him who MON seemed to hint had let themselves and the club down after lockdown. Christiano Ronaldo is 35, Zlatan Ibrahimović is nearly 39, they can still cut it at their level, whose to say Fletcher can't still cut it at his level if he's looked after his body. Is he because his signings so far have been pretty shit on the whole. MON doesn't think so and as it's HIS job on the line, he deserves to call the shots.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2020 19:31:32 GMT
Is he because his signings so far have been pretty shit on the whole. MON doesn't think so and as it's HIS job on the line, he deserves to call the shots. Of course he does, but that doesn't mean his signings have been anything but poor and to say he has got good jugement is jumping the gun a little imo.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2020 19:36:52 GMT
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 6, 2020 19:49:43 GMT
Some sources up north are saying that Celtic only offered him a pay as you play deal which obviously put him off!
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Post by toppercorner on Aug 6, 2020 20:04:16 GMT
fuck him if that's true. offer him further reduced terms, the balls in our court
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 20:24:25 GMT
What’s not to like... get rid of the slow ageing campbell and bring in the quick youth of fletcher.... premiership here we come!! Brunt to Vokes, flick on to fletcher!
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Post by lstokie on Aug 6, 2020 20:37:43 GMT
MON doesn't think so and as it's HIS job on the line, he deserves to call the shots. Of course he does, but that doesn't mean his signings have been anything but poor and to say he has got good jugement is jumping the gun a little imo. Saying his signings have been poor is jumping the gun. Regardless of what you think of his transfer activity it kept us up when we were beyond doomed, I can't believe there are fans on here that dare spout anything against MON. And regardless of your opinion he does not deserve to be critised at this moment in time.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 6, 2020 20:46:51 GMT
If the guy who saved our club's sorry arses this season thinks he will improve us then that makes it OK with me. He's more than a judge of a player than any of us on here.
33 may seem old but if he's looked after himself I bet he's in better shape than a few quite a bit younger than him who MON seemed to hint had let themselves and the club down after lockdown. Christiano Ronaldo is 35, Zlatan Ibrahimović is nearly 39, they can still cut it at their level, whose to say Fletcher can't still cut it at his level if he's looked after his body. Is he because his signings so far have been pretty shit on the whole. Have they? Chester at the time we all thought was a very good acquisition, the lad from spurs we don't know anything about so we can't say either way and Thompson maybe an eye on going down so I certainly wouldn't say shit on the whole at all.
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 6, 2020 20:46:52 GMT
How can you say his transfer record has been poor?. A youngster, a stab on a League one player & a very respected centre half.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2020 20:58:36 GMT
Is he because his signings so far have been pretty shit on the whole. Have they? Chester at the time we all thought was a very good acquisition, the lad from spurs we don't know anything about so we can't say either way and Thompson maybe an eye on going down so I certainly wouldn't say shit on the whole at all. We did and he turned out pretty iffy, Thompson is a nothing player, harsh but he's not what we need or didn't already have and Boothe could be great and is too soon to judge so 1 maybe out of 3 isn't great.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2020 21:00:42 GMT
Of course he does, but that doesn't mean his signings have been anything but poor and to say he has got good jugement is jumping the gun a little imo. Saying his signings have been poor is jumping the gun. Regardless of what you think of his transfer activity it kept us up when we were beyond doomed, I can't believe there are fans on here that dare spout anything against MON. And regardless of your opinion he does not deserve to be critised at this moment in time. He's not untouchable, he's had some bad along with the good we shouldn't just close our eyes to it, saying the three signings he's made so far haven't been great is hardly ripping him apart or a stretch is it.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2020 21:03:11 GMT
How can you say his transfer record has been poor?. A youngster, a stab on a League one player & a very respected centre half. The league one player hasn't been good enough or what we needed, Chester has been poor on the whole (originally thought he was okay) and its too soon to comment on Boothe really, can only go off these three so not really a big group to choose from but I'd say its poor so far, it could completely change but I'm just commenting on what we've seen up to now.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2020 21:05:48 GMT
Fuck it, he's done absolutly nothing wrong and I won't ever say anything against him or what he does ever again, he's the saviour of football.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 21:07:04 GMT
Fuck it, he's done absolutly nothing wrong and I won't ever say anything against him or what he does ever again, he's the saviour of football. Damn straight.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 6, 2020 21:08:53 GMT
Have they? Chester at the time we all thought was a very good acquisition, the lad from spurs we don't know anything about so we can't say either way and Thompson maybe an eye on going down so I certainly wouldn't say shit on the whole at all. We did and he turned out pretty iffy, Thompson is a nothing player, harsh but he's not what we need or didn't already have and Boothe could be great and is too soon to judge so 1 maybe out of 3 isn't great. Being iffy I agree but that can happen with any player, we agree about Oakley-Booth and Thompson I agree doesn't look the part in this league yet, so saying it's pretty shit when he has had his hands tied behind his back re paying for players is very harsh, I'd say judge him in 18 months time when he's moulded his own squad.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2020 21:10:17 GMT
We did and he turned out pretty iffy, Thompson is a nothing player, harsh but he's not what we need or didn't already have and Boothe could be great and is too soon to judge so 1 maybe out of 3 isn't great. Being iffy I agree but that can happen with any player, we agree about Oakley-Booth and Thompson I agree doesn't look the part in this league yet, so saying it's pretty shit when he has had his hands tied behind his back re paying for players is very harsh, I'd say judge him in 18 months time when he's moulded his own squad. I was just questioning that we should trust his judgement on players because he kept us up, so far his judgment on signings has been iffy for the most part.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2020 21:12:06 GMT
Fuck it, he's done absolutly nothing wrong and I won't ever say anything against him or what he does ever again, he's the saviour of football. Damn straight.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 6, 2020 21:15:57 GMT
Being iffy I agree but that can happen with any player, we agree about Oakley-Booth and Thompson I agree doesn't look the part in this league yet, so saying it's pretty shit when he has had his hands tied behind his back re paying for players is very harsh, I'd say judge him in 18 months time when he's moulded his own squad. I was just questioning that we should trust his judgement on players because he kept us up, so far his judgment on signings has been iffy for the most part. What else do we judge him on then mate? No one will disagree he's made mistakes with team selection and tactics but where we were and where we finished I think he's earned the right to be given the benefit of the doubt. We need to shift some dead wood out and bring in some fresh blood and hopefully we'll be pushing top six rather than bottom six.
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Post by george2again on Aug 7, 2020 3:51:34 GMT
If we’re in for Fletcher we must have a solid bid in for Vokes otherwise he would be a terrible acquisition. Just imagine having the pair of them lumbering around up front? We must be the only club on the planet that thinks you don’t need pace in the modern game.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 7, 2020 6:25:12 GMT
If we’re in for Fletcher we must have a solid bid in for Vokes otherwise he would be a terrible acquisition. Just imagine having the pair of them lumbering around up front? We must be the only club on the planet that thinks you don’t need pace in the modern game. Or he could be an upgrade on Gregory?
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 7, 2020 6:37:57 GMT
It shows our ambition if we are after signing players of his age on 18 grand a week , he’s about as quick as a road cone , we need young hungry players not has beens
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Post by george2again on Aug 7, 2020 6:39:27 GMT
If we’re in for Fletcher we must have a solid bid in for Vokes otherwise he would be a terrible acquisition. Just imagine having the pair of them lumbering around up front? We must be the only club on the planet that thinks you don’t need pace in the modern game. Or he could be an upgrade on Gregory? Think we have Afobe for that? We need pace in this side especially out wide or at full back. Where would be the logic of paying a rumored 22k a week to replace a sub?
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 7, 2020 6:42:02 GMT
Fuck it I’m in sign him up 😎
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 7, 2020 6:44:22 GMT
If the guy who saved our club's sorry arses this season thinks he will improve us then that makes it OK with me. He's more than a judge of a player than any of us on here. 33 may seem old but if he's looked after himself I bet he's in better shape than a few quite a bit younger than him who MON seemed to hint had let themselves and the club down after lockdown. Christiano Ronaldo is 35, Zlatan Ibrahimović is nearly 39, they can still cut it at their level, whose to say Fletcher can't still cut it at his level if he's looked after his body. They are both world class players throughout there careers where as Fletch is ermmm economy class
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 7, 2020 8:37:12 GMT
I was just questioning that we should trust his judgement on players because he kept us up, so far his judgment on signings has been iffy for the most part. What else do we judge him on then mate? No one will disagree he's made mistakes with team selection and tactics but where we were and where we finished I think he's earned the right to be given the benefit of the doubt. We need to shift some dead wood out and bring in some fresh blood and hopefully we'll be pushing top six rather than bottom six. We can judge him on his signings like I'm doing Anyway so far the signs look good, Fletcher and Brunt, just what we need But fingers crossed, if he gets us pushing top 6 I'll be amazed, not because I don't rate him but down to the hand tieing the Rowett spend has done for all that followed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 11:41:04 GMT
How exciting
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