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Post by Northy on Aug 6, 2020 13:00:58 GMT
If the guy who saved our club's sorry arses this season thinks he will improve us then that makes it OK with me.
He's more than a judge of a player than any of us on here.
33 may seem old but if he's looked after himself I bet he's in better shape than a few quite a bit younger than him who MON seemed to hint had let themselves and the club down after lockdown.
Christiano Ronaldo is 35, Zlatan Ibrahimović is nearly 39, they can still cut it at their level, whose to say Fletcher can't still cut it at his level if he's looked after his body.
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 6, 2020 13:14:56 GMT
If the guy who saved our club's sorry arses this season thinks he will improve us then that makes it OK with me. He's more than a judge of a player than any of us on here. 33 may seem old but if he's looked after himself I bet he's in better shape than a few quite a bit younger than him who MON seemed to hint had let themselves and the club down after lockdown. Christiano Ronaldo is 35, Zlatan Ibrahimović is nearly 39, they can still cut it at their level, whose to say Fletcher can't still cut it at his level if he's looked after his body. I mean I get what you are saying but Steve Fletcher should not be mentioned in any paragraph with those two players, in any context.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2020 13:19:34 GMT
If the guy who saved our club's sorry arses this season thinks he will improve us then that makes it OK with me. He's more than a judge of a player than any of us on here. 33 may seem old but if he's looked after himself I bet he's in better shape than a few quite a bit younger than him who MON seemed to hint had let themselves and the club down after lockdown. Christiano Ronaldo is 35, Zlatan Ibrahimović is nearly 39, they can still cut it at their level, whose to say Fletcher can't still cut it at his level if he's looked after his body. I mean if we actually look at his transfers for us so far it's not very clever. But that is being harsh. Also comparing Fletcher to them pair just seems daft. Especially after he missed half a season.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 6, 2020 13:21:48 GMT
Fletcher in, Gregory out.
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 6, 2020 13:21:59 GMT
Would suggest Vokes and Gregory may be surplus to requirements, realistically there is no way anybody would take Vokes off our hands. Fletcher is actually quite a clever centre forward.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 13:35:14 GMT
Fletcher in, Gregory out. I'd have Lee Gregory over Fletcher every single day, it wouldn't even be close.
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Post by Northy on Aug 6, 2020 14:10:43 GMT
If the guy who saved our club's sorry arses this season thinks he will improve us then that makes it OK with me. He's more than a judge of a player than any of us on here. 33 may seem old but if he's looked after himself I bet he's in better shape than a few quite a bit younger than him who MON seemed to hint had let themselves and the club down after lockdown. Christiano Ronaldo is 35, Zlatan Ibrahimović is nearly 39, they can still cut it at their level, whose to say Fletcher can't still cut it at his level if he's looked after his body. I mean if we actually look at his transfers for us so far it's not very clever. But that is being harsh. Also comparing Fletcher to them pair just seems daft. Especially after he missed half a season. I didn't compare him to them two in the same level footballing sense, if you can understand that bit? just about looking after themselves, don't forget Zlatan's knee injury a couple of years ago and he came back just fine
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Aug 6, 2020 14:17:51 GMT
A 2 year deal for a 33 year old would be fucking ridiculous If Tony O 'The Scholes is involved in negotiations, he will say why have 2 when you can have 3!
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Post by Miles Offside on Aug 6, 2020 14:41:31 GMT
If the guy who saved our club's sorry arses this season thinks he will improve us then that makes it OK with me. He's more than a judge of a player than any of us on here. That's the way I see it, too. Fletcher will never play on the shoulder of the last man and rely on pace, but he holds the ball up well and is very good at sniffing out chances in the box.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 6, 2020 14:49:52 GMT
Could he score a few , for sure , not much point having him and Vokes , would be pretty slow movement if they ever played together .
Main gripe is that nobody seems to do well in this league with tired wrestlers with not much left in their tank , amazing we cant watch and coach young up and coming players even loans
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Post by CampbxllEra on Aug 6, 2020 14:52:37 GMT
He’s now been re-linked with Celtic apparently??
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 6, 2020 14:55:55 GMT
He’s now been re-linked with Celtic apparently?? Let him go to Celtic! 😎
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 6, 2020 14:58:15 GMT
Its true that in what has been a poor season for Wednesday the fans are very positive about Fletcher (you wont see much of that on here about our own players)
The other thing to consider is that he has stated that he wants to stay in Sheffield where his wife and kids are settled so will take a lot to shift him to Scotland
He has been on 30k a week at Wednesday.
Staying fit is the biggest challenge.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 6, 2020 14:59:12 GMT
A 2 year deal for a 33 year old would be fucking ridiculous In most cases, yeah... But it seems he was in some of the form of his life last year, appears to be in phenomenal physical shape.....and how old is Zlatan? Stephen fletcher has never ever been zlatan
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 6, 2020 14:59:58 GMT
He’s now been re-linked with Celtic apparently?? Let him go to Celtic! 😎 He wants to stay in Sheffield apparently, but not playing for them.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 6, 2020 15:06:18 GMT
In most cases, yeah... But it seems he was in some of the form of his life last year, appears to be in phenomenal physical shape.....and how old is Zlatan? And if we were linked with him I’d want him on a year deal. 30 year olds and up should be offered nothing more. Brighton signed Glenn Murray on a two and a half year deal as a 33 year old.His stats were: Championship 45-23 gls Premier 35-12 gls Premier. 38-13 gls Makes a bit of a nonsense of the statement 30 year olds and up should be offered nothing more than a year.
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 6, 2020 15:07:50 GMT
i think if these are the players that we are going for ie Fletcher and is it jones from Rangers we will not be anywhere near the playoffs we need much better, i wood sooner go down the loan market trail, both Leeds and west brom used it last season with success,as we did last time we got promotion, dont lets waist more money on has beans, i wood check out top premier league clubs reserves teams, thats why we need top scouts it could save us millions
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 6, 2020 15:11:02 GMT
Fletcher in, Gregory out. Are you his agent 😎
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 6, 2020 15:20:02 GMT
Could he score a few , for sure , not much point having him and Vokes , would be pretty slow movement if they ever played together . Main gripe is that nobody seems to do well in this league with tired wrestlers with not much left in their tank , amazing we cant watch and coach young up and coming players even loans Fletcher is far more mobile than Vokes and is better in the air and with the ball at his feet.If and it may be a big if he stayed fit,he would be a massive asset to our squad.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2020 15:39:11 GMT
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Post by nantwichstokie on Aug 6, 2020 15:39:30 GMT
Always impressed me when I've seen him play. Clever footballer. However given his age its still uninspiring. Not sure if he's still got the legs for a full season in the Champ.
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 6, 2020 15:44:17 GMT
i think if these are the players that we are going for ie Fletcher and is it jones from Rangers we will not be anywhere near the playoffs we need much better, i wood sooner go down the loan market trail, both Leeds and west brom used it last season with success,as we did last time we got promotion, dont lets waist more money on has beans, i wood check out top premier league clubs reserves teams, thats why we need top scouts it could save us millions Good point look at how close Lampard got Derby to the Premier league with superb use of the loan system. The young winger from Liverpool and the CB from Chelsea and also Mason Mount. He obviously has better contacts but he took them to the play offs final and lost out to Villa in the final. Young Premier fringe players if used correctly can take you a long way at this level. We have already got a pile of dead wood over the hill tripe that we can't move on.
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Post by karl on Aug 6, 2020 15:44:37 GMT
We need a young Premier League striker who can find the back of the net on loan not someone looking for a last good payday.
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Post by lordb on Aug 6, 2020 16:11:02 GMT
It is worth pointing out that he was very good for Wednesday last season! Wednesday were shite though even when they were near the top they looked awful. It fills me with no confidence. Vokes is better they were shit, but we wouldn't be buying all of them just Fletcher
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Post by lordb on Aug 6, 2020 16:14:29 GMT
In most cases, yeah... But it seems he was in some of the form of his life last year, appears to be in phenomenal physical shape.....and how old is Zlatan? And if we were linked with him I’d want him on a year deal. 30 year olds and up should be offered nothing more. That was West Broms view when Kev Phillips wanted a 2 year deal he went to Villa and scored lots over the next two seasons lots of other examples too to be dogmatic & say anyone over 30 should only should only have 1 year deal is daft. every player should be judged on their own merits
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Post by baystokie on Aug 6, 2020 16:21:41 GMT
In most cases, yeah... But it seems he was in some of the form of his life last year, appears to be in phenomenal physical shape.....and how old is Zlatan? And if we were linked with him I’d want him on a year deal. 30 year olds and up should be offered nothing more. .and you had the cheek in a previous post to chastise Stoke supporters' opinions and knowledge. Need to look a bit nearer home, methinks.
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Post by baystokie on Aug 6, 2020 16:28:55 GMT
i think if these are the players that we are going for ie Fletcher and is it jones from Rangers we will not be anywhere near the playoffs we need much better, i wood sooner go down the loan market trail, both Leeds and west brom used it last season with success,as we did last time we got promotion, dont lets waist more money on has beans, i wood check out top premier league clubs reserves teams, thats why we need top scouts it could save us millions I thought the consensus on here was that we don't want a heal of loans as we are back to square one if and when they return to parent clubs. Maybe we don't want has-beens but young never-done-it/maybe-never-will players are equally a gamble.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2020 16:49:52 GMT
And if we were linked with him I’d want him on a year deal. 30 year olds and up should be offered nothing more. That was West Broms view when Kev Phillips wanted a 2 year deal he went to Villa and scored lots over the next two seasons lots of other examples too to be dogmatic & say anyone over 30 should only should only have 1 year deal is daft. every player should be judged on their own merits Nah it should be club policy imo. Ideally we shouldn’t be signing anyone over 30 either.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2020 16:50:55 GMT
And if we were linked with him I’d want him on a year deal. 30 year olds and up should be offered nothing more. Brighton signed Glenn Murray on a two and a half year deal as a 33 year old.His stats were: Championship 45-23 gls Premier 35-12 gls Premier. 38-13 gls Makes a bit of a nonsense of the statement 30 year olds and up should be offered nothing more than a year. No it doesn’t. I would t sign 30+ year olds period ideally. I think it’s a bad policy.
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Aug 6, 2020 16:58:47 GMT
The last striker I didn’t want us to sign was James Beattie and that didn’t work out too badly so if we do get him I’m going to remain optimistic
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