|
Post by WorkingclassHero on Jun 6, 2020 15:29:52 GMT
There were definate significant add ons. Admittedly one was probably promotion....
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 15:54:02 GMT
We need Campbell and a target man . A target man quicker than vokes If our transfer team can't find a decent target man who is quicker than vokes . They genuinely need to retire and give up the game That is a very small ask But we have Vokes whom if we cant get rid of will be playing so they wont be buying another target man With respect no one said we should play berahino , because we can't get rid of him . I have never seen sankoh play , but I would be amazed if our youth team centre forward , isn't quicker than vokes . There is such a thing as putting your hand up , admitting you have made an honest mistake , and moving on . Any argument along the lines of ...vokes isn't that bad if you ignore the fact , he is not quick enough for the championship , is just bizarre. Why would we want someone , who is not quick enough for the championship , playing up front for Stoke city ?
|
|
|
Post by bolders on Jun 6, 2020 16:14:48 GMT
With the whole FFP we cant just go out any buy who we want while having a host of players on our books so to get a new target man in we would have to ship the other out, its that simple at this moment. We have at least 6 players we kinda need to get out the door.
Id like to see Sankoh as our 4th choice forward next year to see if can cope and carry on his progression
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Jun 6, 2020 16:28:23 GMT
But we have Vokes whom if we cant get rid of will be playing so they wont be buying another target man With respect no one said we should play berahino , because we can't get rid of him . I have never seen sankoh play , but I would be amazed if our youth team centre forward , isn't quicker than vokes . There is such a thing as putting your hand up , admitting you have made an honest mistake , and moving on . Any argument along the lines of ...vokes isn't that bad if you ignore the fact , he is not quick enough for the championship , is just bizarre. Why would we want someone , who is not quick enough for the championship , playing up front for Stoke city ? If we are only going to play one up front for every minute of every match then Vokes slowness is a killer However that simply isn't the case it is it. Vokes will be used, as he was at Burnley,as a sub to go two up top. If we can actually have two wingers who cross the ball (not just one as we have currently) he will score goals. As for Sankoh if we are lucky and he signs his first contract for Stoke then it's important to remember he's a kid. Not in the TP sense either. He needs a full season of U23's. Chucking a 15/16 year old is unlikely to work for either us or him
|
|
|
Post by werrington on Jun 6, 2020 16:39:00 GMT
Vokes is excellent with somebody like Campbell alongside him....not as a one up top
If it’s to be a one up top it has to be somebody who can stretch a defence
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Jun 6, 2020 16:48:23 GMT
Vokes is excellent with somebody like Campbell alongside him....not as a one up top If it’s to be a one up top it has to be somebody who can stretch a defence Most of the time Games where the opposition is sitting deep then you need different options.
|
|
|
Post by bolders on Jun 6, 2020 17:59:36 GMT
Vokes is excellent with somebody like Campbell alongside him....not as a one up top If it’s to be a one up top it has to be somebody who can stretch a defence think that is what Powell is meant to do
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 18:31:30 GMT
I hope this story is wrong
There is a story elsewhere on the board ( rumour ) tyrese Campbell to Bournemouth ( maybe ) , which to me highlights where we are going wrong
By no stretch of the imagination are Bournemouth big hitters or massively successful
But there attackers ...Callum Wilson , Josh king , David brooks are a dannn site quicker than Lee Gregory , Sam vokes and co ( hopefully not Steven Fletcher)
Bournemouth want tyrese Campbell because like Callum Wilson , Josh king and David brooks , he is quick and dangerous
If we go the other way , we are missing the obvious
I can assure Bournemouth are not run by football geniuses , but they do have strikers , who are quick and handy . and are looking to sign more ( tyrese Campbell )
Yes , Bournemouth are doing the bleeding obvious
That doesn't mean we should do the opposite
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Jun 6, 2020 18:40:24 GMT
I hope this story is wrong There is a story elsewhere on the board ( rumoour ) tyrese Campbell to Bournemouth ( maybe ) , which to me highlights where we are going wrong By no stretch of the imagination are Bournemouth big hitters or massively successful But there attackers ...Callum Wilson , Josh king , David brooks are a dannn site quicker than Lee Gregory , Sam vokes and co ( hopefully not Steven Fletcher) Bournemouth want tyrese Campbell because like Callum Wilson , Josh king and David brooks , he is quick and dangerous If we go the other way , we are missing the obvious I can assure Bournemouth are not run by football geniuses , but they do have strikers , who are quick and handy . and are looking to sign more ( tyrese Campbell ) Yes , Bournemouth are doing the bleeding obvious That doesn't mean we should do the opposite It was just one link in the media. Stoke City cannot stop links in the media.
|
|
|
Post by Godo on Jun 6, 2020 20:35:03 GMT
Slow and injury prone. I hope MON has more sense than this so hoping it's just his agent trying to drum up a bit of interest.
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 6, 2020 22:59:58 GMT
Vokes is excellent with somebody like Campbell alongside him....not as a one up top If it’s to be a one up top it has to be somebody who can stretch a defence think that is what Powell is meant to do I hope the plan is Campbell and Powell for the foreseeable tbh. Powell is excellent in the air and can act as an almost targetman but he’s obviously a class footballer too. I’d play him as a number 10 but have him and Campbell and the two wingers all swapping and changing at any point in the game.
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 6, 2020 23:01:18 GMT
Think I'd prefer Justin Fletcher. I’d prefer Jessica...
|
|
|
Post by kjpt140v on Jun 6, 2020 23:12:08 GMT
Why?
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2020 7:23:18 GMT
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2020 7:27:12 GMT
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2020 7:29:29 GMT
Wednesday fans thought he was excellent for them last year. 13 in 27 games It is looking more and more like we're looking for another big striker with the Moore, Parrott and Fletcher links
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2020 7:33:10 GMT
Wednesday fans thought he was excellent for them last year. 13 in 27 games It is looking more and more like we're looking for another big striker with the Moore, Parrott and Fletcher links I still don’t like him. Old cumbersome and slow. And it does. Has to mean 2 of the strikers are off though? There just isn’t the room/need else.
|
|
|
Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 6, 2020 7:51:41 GMT
We have a lumbering forward in Vokes, why add another.
Speed, speed and more speed is what we need (and a good eye for goal) How hard can it be 😜
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2020 7:56:23 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53675841Steven Fletcher has been offered a one-year contract by Celtic after the 33-year-old striker rejected a new deal with Sheffield Wednesday. But no agreement between the player and the Scottish champions has been reached as yet. Fletcher, who has 33 caps for Scotland, has also been offered longer-term deals by two of Wednesday's English Championship rivals. Celtic's offer comes with the option of a further year.
|
|
|
Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2020 8:13:26 GMT
We have a lumbering forward in Vokes, why add another. Speed, speed and more speed is what we need (and a good eye for goal) How hard can it be 😜 A more mobile version of Vokes would be fine as a replacement, we have some pace up front, its everywhere else we need it.
|
|
|
Post by neddy on Aug 6, 2020 8:15:33 GMT
Can’t see him choosing a one year deal over two at his age? If we are in for him they must know 1/2 have offers elsewhere you would think!
|
|
|
Post by spiderpuss on Aug 6, 2020 8:21:55 GMT
Not required here, move on. We want a rocket up our striking arse, not a ball and chain.
|
|
|
Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 6, 2020 8:36:34 GMT
Vokes is excellent with somebody like Campbell alongside him....not as a one up top If it’s to be a one up top it has to be somebody who can stretch a defence I agree = Vokes looks like he should be a decent lone striker but he isn't. However does O'Neill's 433 require a lone striker or is it more like Brentford's front 3? Personally I think Vokes will get more game time when we go 532 as the width proved by the wing backs play to his strengths. I'd see Fletcher as an upgraded Gregory - like Gregory he pulls defences around but unlike Gregory he's a good finisher. However I'd rather see us looking a bit more to the future so not unhappy to see this one fizzle.
|
|
|
Post by realstokebloke on Aug 6, 2020 8:48:21 GMT
5 + years ago maybe.
Decent finisher and has scored goals wherever he's been but at 33 his game fitness must be seriously on the wane. Two years, if true, is bonkers.
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2020 8:55:28 GMT
I'm surprised by how well the Wednesday fans think he did last year.
I think he'd probably be a good signing (with caveats about injury worries), although it raises all kinds of questions about where we see Vokes.
But one thing he definitely doesn't do is tick the much-trumpeted 'hunger' box.
At 33, and as good a pro as he may be, he's clearly in the stage of his career where he's peaked and is now looking to see things out making as much cash as he possibly can (and the squad is crammed full of them) , and lacks that edge that younger players on the up subconsciously have.
|
|
|
Post by bloodtypered on Aug 6, 2020 9:01:55 GMT
Notice how all teams that get back into the prem dont have has-beens
|
|
|
Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 6, 2020 9:06:49 GMT
Worrying that we were even thinking about him to be honest. Looks like we’re fishing in the out of contract pool then.
|
|
|
Post by neddy on Aug 6, 2020 9:12:27 GMT
Could be lazy journalism or agent just throwing us in the pot?
|
|
|
Post by march4 on Aug 6, 2020 9:30:52 GMT
Excellent player at this level.
But do we need this type of striker?
|
|
|
Post by jeycov on Aug 6, 2020 10:18:03 GMT
Excellent player at this level. But do we need this type of striker? No
|
|