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Post by mattador78 on May 30, 2020 13:20:53 GMT
However you look at it an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. The rioting doesn’t help to gain sympathy from people sitting on th e fence it just pushes them to the other side
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 30, 2020 13:33:42 GMT
Apparently a police officer has now been killed in the protests Police officer killed in George Floyd protest f7td5.app.goo.gl/2u4XJQ
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Post by bathstoke on May 30, 2020 13:46:29 GMT
Apparently a police officer has now been killed in the protests Police officer killed in George Floyd protest f7td5.app.goo.gl/2u4XJQLife choices I guess...
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 30, 2020 13:54:45 GMT
Apparently a police officer has now been killed in the protests Police officer killed in George Floyd protest f7td5.app.goo.gl/2u4XJQLife choices I guess... true, some jobs are a bit riskier than others.....still a death though, possibly of a good family man trying to do good.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 30, 2020 15:57:25 GMT
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Post by ColonelMustard on May 30, 2020 16:38:23 GMT
Trevor Noah's monologue is a good, calm listen for anyone who's instinct is to criticise the rioting.
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Post by thevoid on May 30, 2020 19:55:51 GMT
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Post by yes on May 30, 2020 19:58:35 GMT
. That first picture turned into a riot didn't it though?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on May 30, 2020 20:04:57 GMT
Black man murdered by a police officer.
Conservatives: too bad.
People steal from Target.
Conservatives: THIS IS AN INJUSTICE!!!!!!!! THEY SHOULD MURDER THE LOOTERS!
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Post by AlliG on May 30, 2020 20:31:43 GMT
The thing that stunned me most was that the policeman continued to kneel on his throat for at least another 2 minutes after one of the others had tried and failed to find a pulse. What went through their minds when the person they are trying to restrain has stopped moving altogether? - I think I had better check to see if the person is OK
- I should be able to get the cuffs on now
- I think I will kneel on him for a few minutes longer, just to make sure
I would hope that most (all) people would choose option 1, even if they did option 2 at the same time. I can't see how anybody would even consider option 3.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 30, 2020 21:19:23 GMT
. That first picture turned into a riot didn't it though? Stop ruining the GIF with your context. It is the main source of news and current affairs for some people.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 30, 2020 23:26:25 GMT
Its all kickin off in Chicago right now live on CNN
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Post by vokeswagen on May 31, 2020 0:44:35 GMT
Not really sure how they figure this out, or whether underlying health issues are relevant in this case. If you asphyxiate the vast majority of people for nearly 9 minutes, they will die, regardless of underlying health conditions. Typically after about 5 minutes, your brain starts dying of lack of oxygen. George Floyd was lifeless after about 7 minutes according to reports. Based on the information so far, it seems a bit like saying "well yeah he was shot a few times in the head but technically he died because his heart stopped..." I hope the arresting officer has a nice time in the prison showers every motherfucking day
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Post by noustie on May 31, 2020 7:57:20 GMT
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Post by harryburrows on May 31, 2020 12:54:01 GMT
Apparently the pathologist who's being used to carry out George floyd's autopsy is the same one who carried out Geoffrey Epsteins. Remember his suicide in prison . I wonder if he's going to reach a similar conclusion
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Post by marylandstoke on May 31, 2020 13:14:27 GMT
Apparently the pathologist who's being used to carry out George floyd's autopsy is the same one who carried out Geoffrey Epsteins. Remember his suicide in prison . I wonder if he's going to reach a similar conclusion And there is a school of thought that the police officer will go the same way. Also, just after his arrest his wife filed for divorce.
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Post by bathstoke on May 31, 2020 14:31:56 GMT
Apparently the pathologist who's being used to carry out George floyd's autopsy is the same one who carried out Geoffrey Epsteins. Remember his suicide in prison . I wonder if he's going to reach a similar conclusion And there is a school of thought that the police officer will go the same way. Also, just after his arrest his wife filed for divorce. A colleague of mine is an excopper & says a lot of them are wife beaters. She’s seen her chance to run 🏃♀️
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 31, 2020 16:06:58 GMT
Are we still calling them 'protests'?
Of course any peaceful protest wouldn't be complete without left wing Antifa showing up.
Another couple who own a shop facing the delights of the peaceful protests.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 16:25:06 GMT
Are we still calling them 'protests'? Of course any peaceful protest wouldn't be complete without left wing Antifa showing up. Another couple who own a shop facing the delights of the peaceful protests. There are obviously a very tiny minority of idiots taking part, which are of course focused on by those who want to apologise for systemic racist murder, but for the most part, these protests are completely legitimate and they will probably keep cropping up until the system itself completely changes. I hope they don't stop until they get justice.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 31, 2020 16:40:20 GMT
There are obviously a very tiny minority of idiots taking part, which are of course focused on by those who want to apologise for systemic racist murder, but for the most part, these protests are completely legitimate and they will probably keep cropping up until the system itself completely changes. I hope they don't stop until they get justice. I suppose these women are 'apologists for systemic racist murder' aswell? Even they've had enough of Antifa.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 31, 2020 17:10:56 GMT
There are obviously a very tiny minority of idiots taking part, which are of course focused on by those who want to apologise for systemic racist murder, but for the most part, these protests are completely legitimate and they will probably keep cropping up until the system itself completely changes. I hope they don't stop until they get justice. I suppose these women are 'apologists for systemic racist murder' aswell? Even they've had enough of Antifa. DC , I think a problem we have in a range of issues is when some people get "offended" on behalf of others....and then vociferous and then take action. In many cases, in the modern era, the " others" don't want that type of help....it is a completely different thing from the accusation that to do nothing is to condone bad things. A completely different thing from Niemoller's " they first came for the...."...as the lady says in your clip...they are part of the problem.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 17:17:35 GMT
There are obviously a very tiny minority of idiots taking part, which are of course focused on by those who want to apologise for systemic racist murder, but for the most part, these protests are completely legitimate and they will probably keep cropping up until the system itself completely changes. I hope they don't stop until they get justice. I suppose these women are 'apologists for systemic racist murder' aswell? Even they've had enough of Antifa. No, I'm saying there are a minority of idiots, and if some Antifa people are being idiots then that includes those people. I think the people saying 'none of this is right' or 'So are we still calling them 'protests' then?' are trying to bring far too much nuance and faux intellectualism to a subject that is very basic and has almost no nuance. Black people are murdered by police, because the system the US lives by is made to keep people down and to not give a fuck about the poor or minorities. In the UK, we're far more subtle with the same issues, we're less aggressive with our endemic racism, which is perhaps why it's difficult to understand why riots are necessary in the US.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 17:22:59 GMT
I suppose these women are 'apologists for systemic racist murder' aswell? Even they've had enough of Antifa. No, I'm saying there are a minority of idiots, and if some Antifa people are being idiots then that includes those people. I think the people saying 'none of this is right' or 'So are we still calling them 'protests' then?' are trying to bring far too much nuance and faux intellectualism to a subject that is very basic and has almost no nuance. Black people are murdered by police, because the system the US lives by is made to keep people down and to not give a fuck about the poor or minorities.In the UK, we're far more subtle with the same issues, we're less aggressive with our endemic racism, which is perhaps why it's difficult to understand why riots are necessary in the US. Over 40 police officers in the USA have been killed by black people in the USA in the last 3 years alone. The last one in NYC, the colour of the shooter was kept out of the media.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 31, 2020 17:24:51 GMT
DC , I think a problem we have in a range of issues is when some people get "offended" on behalf of others....and then vociferous and then take action. In many cases, in the modern era, the " others" don't want that type of help....it is a completely different thing from the accusation that to do nothing is to condone bad things. A completely different thing from Niemoller's " they first came for the...."...as the lady says in your clip...they are part of the problem. Agreed, BigJohn. Everytime in recent years when an innocent black fella gets killed by the police, the local black community will protest & then the white left wing thugs from Antifa get bussed in & turn it into a riot. The Mayor said the other day that everyone they've arrested is from 'out-of-town'. They come in, smash everything up, burn everything to the ground, then retreat back to their untouched communities & leave the locals to deal with the aftermath & pick up the pieces.
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Post by bathstoke on May 31, 2020 17:46:00 GMT
Are we still calling them 'protests'? Of course any peaceful protest wouldn't be complete without left wing Antifa showing up. Another couple who own a shop facing the delights of the peaceful protests. Let me be the one to break it to you Drunk. When you voted Brexit, non of this fear of yours is going to go away. By ticking a box nothing will change. Not by ticking a box in a cowardly gesture. I wouldn’t know where to begin to unravel your psyche, but it’s not looking good. You know they can smell your fear...
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 31, 2020 17:48:40 GMT
Let me be the one to break it to you Drunk. When you voted Brexit, non of this fear of yours is going to go away. By ticking a box nothing will change. Not by ticking a box in a cowardly gesture. I wouldn’t know where to begin to unravel your psyche, but it’s not looking good. You know they can smell your fear... Even by your standards, Bath, that's quite a post
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Post by bathstoke on May 31, 2020 17:53:50 GMT
Let me be the one to break it to you Drunk. When you voted Brexit, non of this fear of yours is going to go away. By ticking a box nothing will change. Not by ticking a box in a cowardly gesture. I wouldn’t know where to begin to unravel your psyche, but it’s not looking good. You know they can smell your fear... Even by your standards, Bath, that's quite a post Wow, by your response you more blind than I thought & must have led a V sheltered life. Look after yourself😬
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 17:59:00 GMT
No, I'm saying there are a minority of idiots, and if some Antifa people are being idiots then that includes those people. I think the people saying 'none of this is right' or 'So are we still calling them 'protests' then?' are trying to bring far too much nuance and faux intellectualism to a subject that is very basic and has almost no nuance. Black people are murdered by police, because the system the US lives by is made to keep people down and to not give a fuck about the poor or minorities.In the UK, we're far more subtle with the same issues, we're less aggressive with our endemic racism, which is perhaps why it's difficult to understand why riots are necessary in the US. Over 40 police officers in the USA have been killed by black people in the USA in the last 3 years alone. The last one in NYC, the colour of the shooter was kept out of the media. Okay? Why does that matter? How many police were killed by white people in the past 3 years? Since 2017 ~700 black people have been killed by police officers. For reference to the original point I made, ~12% of the US population is black, and ~27% of police killings are of black people. Black people are 3x more likely to be killed by the police per million population than white people according to data from reference below, and 1.3x more likely to be killed unarmed by police than white people. mappingpoliceviolence.org
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Post by thevoid on May 31, 2020 18:03:28 GMT
Are we still calling them 'protests'? Of course any peaceful protest wouldn't be complete without left wing Antifa showing up. Another couple who own a shop facing the delights of the peaceful protests. Let me be the one to break it to you Drunk. When you voted Brexit, non of this fear of yours is going to go away. By ticking a box nothing will change. Not by ticking a box in a cowardly gesture. I wouldn’t know where to begin to unravel your psyche, but it’s not looking good. You know they can smell your fear... What does Brexit have to do with police racism and protests in the US?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 18:05:02 GMT
Over 40 police officers in the USA have been killed by black people in the USA in the last 3 years alone. The last one in NYC, the colour of the shooter was kept out of the media. Okay? Why does that matter? How many police were killed by white people in the past 3 years? Since 2017 ~700 black people have been killed by police officers. For reference to the original point I made, ~12% of the US population is black, and ~27% of police killings are of black people. Black people are 3x more likely to be killed by the police per million population than white people according to data from reference below, and 1.3x more likely to be killed unarmed by police than white people. mappingpoliceviolence.orgYou forgot the crime statistics strangely which is a major factor in the figures
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