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Post by stokiemac on May 22, 2020 12:42:26 GMT
Student completes a thesis linking two goals scored from Delap's throw against Everton to the financial crash of 2008... I really hope he gets to publish it because I have to read this now 😂
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Post by lagwafis on May 22, 2020 13:27:05 GMT
Stoke: Sorensen, Griffin, Sonko, Cort, Higginbotham, Lawrence (Cresswell 86), Abdoulaye Faye (Tonge 81), Olofinjana, Delap, Blame Kitson (Sidibe 81), Fuller. Subs Not Used: Simonsen, Whelan, Shawcross, Wilkinson.
Everton: Howard, Neville, Yobo, Jagielka, Lescott, Fellaini, Anichebe (Vaughan 90), Cahill (Rodwell 81), Castillo, Arteta, Yakubu. Subs Not Used: Nash, Baines, Nuno Valente, Kissock, Baxter.
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Post by scfc75 on May 22, 2020 13:28:19 GMT
I’ll be absolutely stunned if there’s no direct link. Rory has a lot to answer for.
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Post by kingdaz on May 22, 2020 13:32:32 GMT
what the fuck to these people do with my tax
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 22, 2020 13:43:02 GMT
what the fuck to these people do with my tax Improve the economy in a number of different ways?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 13:57:32 GMT
what the fuck to these people do with my tax I like you already Your Majesty. I've got a feeling you're going to be a real asset to this board.....
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Post by kingdaz on May 22, 2020 14:03:15 GMT
what the fuck to these people do with my tax I like you already Your Majesty. I've got a feeling you're going to be a real asset to this board..... Cheers mate
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Post by mattythestokie on May 22, 2020 14:08:27 GMT
what the fuck to these people do with my tax Probably working about a million miles an hour to find a Covid 19 vaccine right about now.
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Post by kingdaz on May 22, 2020 14:44:01 GMT
what the fuck to these people do with my tax Probably working about a million miles an hour to find a Covid 19 vaccine right about now. Hows the bloke writing about throw ins helping to find a vaccine??? And why should I have to pay him to do it?
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Post by kingdaz on May 22, 2020 14:44:32 GMT
I'm happy for my tax to go to medicine. But this isn't medicine is it?
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Post by supersimonstainrod on May 22, 2020 15:03:01 GMT
I've always suspected there's a symbiosis between TP's 'cage' system and austerity...
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Post by borges on May 22, 2020 15:12:31 GMT
what the fuck to these people do with my tax At the risk of feeding the troll/being whooshed, it's not contributing significantly to the cost of his MSc in Applied Statistics at Aberdeen University...
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Post by kingdaz on May 22, 2020 15:18:23 GMT
what the fuck to these people do with my tax At the risk of feeding the troll/being whooshed, it's not contributing significantly to the cost of his MSc in Applied Statistics at Aberdeen University... Univerity's free in scotland???
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Post by Squeekster on May 22, 2020 15:22:44 GMT
At the risk of feeding the troll/being whooshed, it's not contributing significantly to the cost of his MSc in Applied Statistics at Aberdeen University... Univerity's free in scotland??? No it's not!! The English pay for it, along with their prescription's!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 22, 2020 15:25:00 GMT
Ah this country.
Absolutely fucked.
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Post by kingdaz on May 22, 2020 15:29:36 GMT
Univerity's free in scotland??? No it's not!! The English pay for it, along with their prescription's! Thank you for making my point
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Post by anchorman on May 22, 2020 15:46:52 GMT
At the risk of feeding the troll/being whooshed, it's not contributing significantly to the cost of his MSc in Applied Statistics at Aberdeen University... Univerity's free in scotland??? Only if you're Scottish. My son is at Edinburgh Uni and it certainly is not free!
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Post by borges on May 22, 2020 15:52:22 GMT
For those moaning about their tax funding this:
1. "Free" is a loaded term. Undergraduate degrees aren't 'free' in Scotland, but resident Scottish and EU students can get their tuition fees paid by the Student Awards Agency for Scotland (SAAS).
2. The Scottish government funds the SAAS out of its own budget - it's not extra money given to Scottish universities by the UK government and paid for exclusively by "English taxes"
3. Your man studying at the University of Aberdeen, whose dissertation we're discussing, has completed an MSc - a postgraduate qualification which the SAAS doesn't fund, so is either paying his tuition fees himself, or has had part or all of them paid for as part of a scholarship from the university or elsewhere.
4. UK universities receive only 26% of their funding directly from the UK government. Most of that (16%) is paid for research, not to fund teaching (10%). The 10% of funding for teaching that universities receive each year is equivalent to about £3billion. For comparison, the government spends about £2billion a year on the maintenance of the Trident nuclear programme.
No-one likes seeing the tax come off their earnings, but most of the population's perception of how much of that money is spent on Higher Education is so far wide of the mark as to be laughable.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 22, 2020 16:01:51 GMT
For those moaning about their tax funding this: 1. "Free" is a loaded term. Undergraduate degrees aren't 'free' in Scotland, but resident Scottish and EU students can get their tuition fees paid by the Student Awards Agency for Scotland (SAAS). 2. The Scottish government funds the SAAS out of its own budget - it's not extra money given to Scottish universities by the UK government and paid for exclusively by "English taxes" 3. Your man studying at the University of Aberdeen, whose dissertation we're discussing, has completed an MSc - a postgraduate qualification which the SAAS doesn't fund, so is either paying his tuition fees himself, or has had part or all of them paid for as part of a scholarship from the university or elsewhere. 4. UK universities receive only 26% of their funding directly from the UK government. Most of that (16%) is paid for research, not to fund teaching (10%). The 10% of funding for teaching that universities receive each year is equivalent to about £3billion. For comparison, the government spends about £2billion a year on the maintenance of the Trident nuclear programme.No-one likes seeing the tax come off their earnings, but most of the population's perception of how much of that money is spent on Higher Education is so far wide of the mark as to be laughable. Thats some expensive suicide bombers.
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Post by kingdaz on May 22, 2020 16:20:15 GMT
So he might of wasted his own money? Either way its a waste.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 22, 2020 16:25:53 GMT
So he might of wasted his own money? Either way its a waste. Why?
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Post by kingdaz on May 22, 2020 16:28:23 GMT
How the hell can a throw in cause banks to fail? Are you on glue???
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 22, 2020 16:31:11 GMT
How the hell can a throw in cause banks to fail? Are you on glue??? Read the dissertation, find out.
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Post by borges on May 22, 2020 17:03:29 GMT
How the hell can a throw in cause banks to fail? Are you on glue??? Read the dissertation, find out. Don't think it'll be published in crayon...
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Post by scfc75 on May 22, 2020 18:09:29 GMT
How the hell can a throw in cause banks to fail? Are you on glue??? It’s a theoretical paper on the butterfly effect.
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Post by devondumpling on May 22, 2020 21:00:30 GMT
For those moaning about their tax funding this: 1. "Free" is a loaded term. Undergraduate degrees aren't 'free' in Scotland, but resident Scottish and EU students can get their tuition fees paid by the Student Awards Agency for Scotland (SAAS). 2. The Scottish government funds the SAAS out of its own budget - it's not extra money given to Scottish universities by the UK government and paid for exclusively by "English taxes" 3. Your man studying at the University of Aberdeen, whose dissertation we're discussing, has completed an MSc - a postgraduate qualification which the SAAS doesn't fund, so is either paying his tuition fees himself, or has had part or all of them paid for as part of a scholarship from the university or elsewhere. 4. UK universities receive only 26% of their funding directly from the UK government. Most of that (16%) is paid for research, not to fund teaching (10%). The 10% of funding for teaching that universities receive each year is equivalent to about £3billion. For comparison, the government spends about £2billion a year on the maintenance of the Trident nuclear programme. No-one likes seeing the tax come off their earnings, but most of the population's perception of how much of that money is spent on Higher Education is so far wide of the mark as to be laughable. Your figures are laughable. What about the 17 billion loaned to students each year by the government? The value of outstanding loans at the end of March 2019 reached £121 billion.
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Post by PotteringThrough on May 22, 2020 21:02:53 GMT
How the hell can a throw in cause banks to fail? Are you on glue??? The glue market is on its arse since Sam Vokes scored late on against Sheff Weds at Christmas. I'm currently finalising a piece on it thanks to your dosh!
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Post by borges on May 23, 2020 0:24:33 GMT
For those moaning about their tax funding this: 1. "Free" is a loaded term. Undergraduate degrees aren't 'free' in Scotland, but resident Scottish and EU students can get their tuition fees paid by the Student Awards Agency for Scotland (SAAS). 2. The Scottish government funds the SAAS out of its own budget - it's not extra money given to Scottish universities by the UK government and paid for exclusively by "English taxes" 3. Your man studying at the University of Aberdeen, whose dissertation we're discussing, has completed an MSc - a postgraduate qualification which the SAAS doesn't fund, so is either paying his tuition fees himself, or has had part or all of them paid for as part of a scholarship from the university or elsewhere. 4. UK universities receive only 26% of their funding directly from the UK government. Most of that (16%) is paid for research, not to fund teaching (10%). The 10% of funding for teaching that universities receive each year is equivalent to about £3billion. For comparison, the government spends about £2billion a year on the maintenance of the Trident nuclear programme. No-one likes seeing the tax come off their earnings, but most of the population's perception of how much of that money is spent on Higher Education is so far wide of the mark as to be laughable. Your figures are laughable. What about the 17 billion loaned to students each year by the government? The value of outstanding loans at the end of March 2019 reached £121 billion. The key phrase there is "loaned to students". The figures I quoted (from www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/policy-and-analysis/reports/Documents/2016/university-funding-explained.pdf) relate only to the money received by universities directly from the government: funding for teaching and research (10% and 16% of the sector's annual funding, respectively, when that document was published). I'm assuming that the student loans (the £17billion annual figure you're quoting) includes both tuition loans and maintenance loans. If that's the case, then not all of that money is going to universities but you're correct that universities do receive a significant amount of that figure in the form of tuition loans (up to £9250 per academic year, per student currently) which are taken out by the majority of students and paid to the universities to cover their tuition. In the document I got my figures from, tuition fees accounted for 44% of universities' annual income, but it's important to note that less than half of that (47%) was from domestic and EU undergraduates (i.e. the students eligible for tuition loans), so the majority of tuition fees received by universities are not coming from UK taxpayers, but rather from other sources. By my maths, the means a maximum of about 20.68% of universities' income comes (or came, allowing for the fact that my figures are from a few years ago) from tuition loans funded by the UK government (via the Student Loans Company). Add that 20.68% to the 26% in teaching and research funding received, and you realise that the money from the UK taxpayer makes up less than half of universities' annual income. In terms of your figure of £121billion in outstanding loans as of March 2019 - does that include the interest charged against tuition and maintenance loans (currently 5.4% for students still studying, and between 2% and 5.4% for graduates)? If so, you'd have to admit that a significant portion that £121billion is accrued interest and not the actual cost of the loans paid for by the government. If people are still unconvinced as to the (economic) value of higher education in the UK: - "[universities] generated more than 940,000 jobs around the country, equivalent to 3% of all employment"
- "UK universities, and their international students and visitors, generated £95bn of gross output in the economy in 2014-15"
- "The higher education institutions generate larger turnover than the legal sector, advertising and marketing sector and air and spacecraft manufacturing."
[https://www.publicfinance.co.uk/news/2017/10/uk-universities-contribute-ps100bn-uk-economy-says-study]
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on May 23, 2020 5:14:19 GMT
Your figures are laughable. What about the 17 billion loaned to students each year by the government? The value of outstanding loans at the end of March 2019 reached £121 billion. The key phrase there is "loaned to students". The figures I quoted (from www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/policy-and-analysis/reports/Documents/2016/university-funding-explained.pdf) relate only to the money received by universities directly from the government: funding for teaching and research (10% and 16% of the sector's annual funding, respectively, when that document was published). I'm assuming that the student loans (the £17billion annual figure you're quoting) includes both tuition loans and maintenance loans. If that's the case, then not all of that money is going to universities but you're correct that universities do receive a significant amount of that figure in the form of tuition loans (up to £9250 per academic year, per student currently) which are taken out by the majority of students and paid to the universities to cover their tuition. In the document I got my figures from, tuition fees accounted for 44% of universities' annual income, but it's important to note that less than half of that (47%) was from domestic and EU undergraduates (i.e. the students eligible for tuition loans), so the majority of tuition fees received by universities are not coming from UK taxpayers, but rather from other sources. By my maths, the means a maximum of about 20.68% of universities' income comes (or came, allowing for the fact that my figures are from a few years ago) from tuition loans funded by the UK government (via the Student Loans Company). Add that 20.68% to the 26% in teaching and research funding received, and you realise that the money from the UK taxpayer makes up less than half of universities' annual income. In terms of your figure of £121billion in outstanding loans as of March 2019 - does that include the interest charged against tuition and maintenance loans (currently 5.4% for students still studying, and between 2% and 5.4% for graduates)? If so, you'd have to admit that a significant portion that £121billion is accrued interest and not the actual cost of the loans paid for by the government. If people are still unconvinced as to the (economic) value of higher education in the UK: - "[universities] generated more than 940,000 jobs around the country, equivalent to 3% of all employment"
- "UK universities, and their international students and visitors, generated £95bn of gross output in the economy in 2014-15"
- "The higher education institutions generate larger turnover than the legal sector, advertising and marketing sector and air and spacecraft manufacturing."
[https://www.publicfinance.co.uk/news/2017/10/uk-universities-contribute-ps100bn-uk-economy-says-study] They should stop that spacecraft manufacturing right away! What a waste of my taxes!
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Post by ohbottom on May 23, 2020 7:26:29 GMT
How the hell can a throw in cause banks to fail? Are you on glue??? It’s a theoretical paper on the butterfly effect. A rather mediocre sci-fi film imo, why not do one on Battlestar Galactica?
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