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Post by RF10 on May 21, 2020 11:49:00 GMT
Complete opposite of what to do. Pick the area as that's where you will be living. You can make the house whatever you want but you can't change what it's like around you. Horses for courses mate so you would forget about the house for the area and settle just because or do you pick the house you like 🤷♂️ Both are important. But I hear so many people saying if I could pick up my house and move it I would. Some new housing estates are good example of what I mean. Obviously everyone is different in their preferences in area and most properties will go if they are well done out.
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Post by franklin66 on May 21, 2020 12:13:33 GMT
Horses for courses mate so you would forget about the house for the area and settle just because or do you pick the house you like 🤷♂️ Both are important. But I hear so many people saying if I could pick up my house and move it I would. Some new housing estates are good example of what I mean. Obviously everyone is different in their preferences in area and most properties will go if they are well done out. That's what I was saying you have a budget and you live where you can. Ultimately though it's the house then area imho or we would all be living in "posh" areas. Postcodes are overrated plenty of nice houses about and like I said you close the door put up a fence or whatever and I can be anywhere I want after a glass of wine on my decking.
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Post by RF10 on May 21, 2020 12:20:30 GMT
Both are important. But I hear so many people saying if I could pick up my house and move it I would. Some new housing estates are good example of what I mean. Obviously everyone is different in their preferences in area and most properties will go if they are well done out. That's what I was saying you have a budget and you live where you can. Ultimately though it's the house then area imho or we would all be living in "posh" areas. Postcodes are overrated plenty of nice houses about and like I said you close the door put up a fence or whatever and I can be anywhere I want after a glass of wine on my decking. Fair enough. Like I said everyone has difference preferences.
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Post by mrcoke on May 21, 2020 12:27:34 GMT
Breaking into this argument about house v location, our last move we sold our property and rented in the area we now live and waited for the right property to come up. That way we ensured we like the area and got the right property, but you have to be patient.
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Post by franklin66 on May 21, 2020 13:08:58 GMT
Breaking into this argument about house v location, our last move we sold our property and rented in the area we now live and waited for the right property to come up. That way we ensured we like the area and got the right property, but you have to be patient. It's not an argument but it's a valid discussion it's so difficult buying nowdays with limited financial support from banks with mortgages etc. It's about compromising and knowing what your house is for, for life, for a family home, for profit for any number of things. Whatever it's for make sure you can afford it I've seen so many not having a pot to piss in for the sake of an area and the "prestige" A home is a marathon not a sprint for me there is always something that needs to be done but dont forget to live also.
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Post by muggleton on May 21, 2020 20:17:41 GMT
Abbey Hulton, or Fegg Hayes, with a big mention to Chell Heath. Stay classy Stoke on Trent. 😁
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Post by muggleton on May 21, 2020 20:30:42 GMT
More great input everyone, so thanks again.
Would prefer Stoke/Newcastle to surrounding villages or towns.
Have previously looked at Stafford and Stone, but both too quiet and the villages even worse.
Penkhull sounds worth another look. Handiness to the station a big bonus.
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Post by Boothen on May 21, 2020 20:34:14 GMT
It would be remiss of me to not put forward Boothen.
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Post by murphthesurf on May 21, 2020 21:22:12 GMT
Appreciate all the replies lads. Mostly chiming with what I would've thought myself. I know of most of the places mentioned, have had a pint in a few of them, but living somewhere is a different matter. Access to A34/M6 South is key, and have no interest in crossing the city in rush hour. Budget is £180k, but if I could get away with spending half that and getting somewhere half decent (which seems more doable in Stoke than most places) then I'd do that. A good time to be buying a house, but expect to lose money on it in the short term at least so a cheaper option would be attractive. 2 bed house or flat needed. Just me moving. Thanks again for all the input. No-one's mentioned Clayton yet, Muggles --- got friends there and it always seems a very nice neck of the woods + the M6 and A34 access you need would be a doddle. Thursday is the day for the Sentinel's Property supplement, which should give you something of an idea of what's on offer + various areas and a rough price guide. I've tried to access their website for house sales to see if it would help you, but it was pretty much useless. I'll hang on to the pull-out supplement today, and if you want me to post it to you please PM me where to send it - it would be no trouble. Well, that bright idea soon came to sweet f.a. Had a look at the Sennel's 'Property' supplement tonight, and there's not a single house of any sort in it! It's just a mish-mash of interior design-type waffle…… So this must be to do with the lockdown and nobody being able to visit anywhere to view - I would have thought that estate agents would still at least be advertising the properties on their books for folks to make a note of for when things get back to normal, but they perhaps consider all the big full-page ads a waste of money under the circs. When all sorts of visits, etc., start to resume - which by all accounts, to at least some extent, might be as from 1st July - and the Properties advertising recommences, the offer will still be open, so I'll leave this with you.
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Post by muggleton on May 21, 2020 22:09:00 GMT
No-one's mentioned Clayton yet, Muggles --- got friends there and it always seems a very nice neck of the woods + the M6 and A34 access you need would be a doddle. Thursday is the day for the Sentinel's Property supplement, which should give you something of an idea of what's on offer + various areas and a rough price guide. I've tried to access their website for house sales to see if it would help you, but it was pretty much useless. I'll hang on to the pull-out supplement today, and if you want me to post it to you please PM me where to send it - it would be no trouble. Well, that bright idea soon came to sweet f.a. Had a look at the Sennel's 'Property' supplement tonight, and there's not a single house of any sort in it! It's just a mish-mash of interior design-type waffle…… So this must be to do with the lockdown and nobody being able to visit anywhere to view - I would have thought that estate agents would still at least be advertising the properties on their books for folks to make a note of for when things get back to normal, but they perhaps consider all the big full-page ads a waste of money under the circs. When all sorts of visits, etc., start to resume - which by all accounts, to at least some extent, might be as from 1st July - and the Properties advertising recommences, the offer will still be open, so I'll leave this with you. Really decent offer Murph, and much appreciated. It's a strange time to be looking at houses alright. Quite a few coming on Rightmove but prices are dropping, and will be for the foreseeable, so will be interesting to see how it pans out. Chains in particular will be a shambles.
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Post by muggleton on May 21, 2020 22:10:38 GMT
It would be remiss of me to not put forward Boothen. Any meat on the bones mate? Decent community, pubs, shops?
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Post by Boothen on May 21, 2020 22:22:26 GMT
It would be remiss of me to not put forward Boothen. Any meat on the bones mate? Decent community, pubs, shops? Quiet area with friendly locals. Within spitting distance of the stadium, staggering walking distance to quite a few decent local pubs ( plus Stoke town centre is a five minute stroll down the road). Train station is just down the road too. Shops are a sore point, we have a large Sainsburys, a Lidl and some smaller shops but ever since the dicks in the the council decided Hanley is the City Centre all funds are directed there and so that's where all the main shops are. We do have the best oatcake shop in the entire Potteries though. If you cycle then we have great access to the canal towpath system, so getting around by bike is a doddle.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 22:29:13 GMT
It would be remiss of me to not put forward Boothen. Any meat on the bones mate? Decent community, pubs, shops? I lived there previously, on a street off London road. Decent area for the things you’re talking about. Unfortunately our nice peaceful little street fell prey to gangsters buying up a property and using it as a brothel, with most likely trafficked women living there. Luckily it was on the opposite side of the street but the taxis coming and going at all hours of the night was a nuisance. I’d noticed the taxis but didn’t know why they were there until it all came to a head one night, with one of the poor neighbors in the street at her absolute wits end. Poor lady. Apparently the council were totally worthless in addressing the complaints. Likely some hypocritical cunts high up in the council with their fingers in the pie. Of course this could happen in any area but I imagine it’s rarer in more expensive places.
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Post by muggleton on May 21, 2020 23:47:29 GMT
Two contrasting perspectives on Boothen then. Both equally welcome.
Probably my only pre-requisite is peace at night, so lads (literally) coming and going from brothels isn't going to work. No interest in any hassle whatsoever.
Trying to work out the nearest walk to the station that's not a kip, and keep coming back to Penkhull. Is there anywhere else that's not up a bastard hill?
Few new builds around. Any worth a look?
Have seen some on the canal in Hanley, but no idea what chance they have.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on May 22, 2020 0:13:08 GMT
Leek Road /Joiners Square Hanley Park area
Fenton/ Mount Pleasant area
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Post by NassauDave on May 22, 2020 2:45:21 GMT
Appreciate all the replies lads. Mostly chiming with what I would've thought myself. I know of most of the places mentioned, have had a pint in a few of them, but living somewhere is a different matter. Access to A34/M6 South is key, and have no interest in crossing the city in rush hour. Budget is £180k, but if I could get away with spending half that and getting somewhere half decent (which seems more doable in Stoke than most places) then I'd do that. A good time to be buying a house, but expect to lose money on it in the short term at least so a cheaper option would be attractive. 2 bed house or flat needed. Just me moving. Thanks again for all the input. Bentilee mate. Buy half a Street for that.
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Post by Boothen on May 22, 2020 4:23:00 GMT
Two contrasting perspectives on Boothen then. Both equally welcome. Probably my only pre-requisite is peace at night, so lads (literally) coming and going from brothels isn't going to work. No interest in any hassle whatsoever. Trying to work out the nearest walk to the station that's not a kip, and keep coming back to Penkhull. Is there anywhere else that's not up a bastard hill? Few new builds around. Any worth a look? Have seen some on the canal in Hanley, but no idea what chance they have. No brothels in any of the surrounding streets here. In fact the nearest one is on London Rd., right up the other end of Corporation St. The only noise I get in my street is the morning chorus due to all the trees, bushes and other greenery along the banks of the Trent. We get foxes too, but those critters only usually get randy around January/February.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 5:34:08 GMT
I can also vouch for Clayton. Grew up there as a youngster and spent all my young life in and around Clayton, Seabridge, Westbury Park and the Westlands etc.
You will easily find a nice little house there for your budget if you look in the right places.
Plenty of expensive houses right in the middle of some of those areas but also some that fall easily into your budget on the periphery, branching out into areas like Northwood lane, Cambridge Drive etc.
There are a fair few ex Council houses that were brought during the 80s buy out scheme that have since been done up and extended quite nicely. Some also that you can pick up quite cheaply to do the same yourself.
I'm currently in the Trentham area. Nice area to live but beware. There are plans about to be passed that will allow 500 homes to be built on land, over the next ten years, at the back of Trentham Rugby club with limited access guaranteed to cause havoc on the local roads.
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Post by elystokie on May 22, 2020 9:00:34 GMT
Appreciate all the replies lads. Mostly chiming with what I would've thought myself. I know of most of the places mentioned, have had a pint in a few of them, but living somewhere is a different matter. Access to A34/M6 South is key, and have no interest in crossing the city in rush hour. Budget is £180k, but if I could get away with spending half that and getting somewhere half decent (which seems more doable in Stoke than most places) then I'd do that. A good time to be buying a house, but expect to lose money on it in the short term at least so a cheaper option would be attractive. D 2 bed house or flat needed. Just me moving. Thanks again for all the input. Bentilee mate. Buy half a Street for that. Seems the properties at the bottom end of the price range at the moment in the area are around 90k, so it'd have to be a pretty small street, ours only has 6 houses and a bungalow in it and his budget wouldn't get him half that Later this year tho, who knows, prices everywhere could tumble dramatically.
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Post by muggleton on May 22, 2020 9:05:20 GMT
Bentilee mate. Buy half a Street for that. Seems the properties at the bottom end of the price range at the moment in the area are around 90k, so it'd have to be a pretty small street, ours only has 6 houses and a bungalow in it and his budget wouldn't get him half that Later this year tho, who knows, prices everywhere could tumble dramatically. Expect prices to fall significantly alright, so weighing up whether to get somewhere cheaper or rent til the dust settles on the virus and Brexit. Price drops will be uneven, but will fall across the board.
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Post by elystokie on May 22, 2020 9:23:12 GMT
Seems the properties at the bottom end of the price range at the moment in the area are around 90k, so it'd have to be a pretty small street, ours only has 6 houses and a bungalow in it and his budget wouldn't get him half that Later this year tho, who knows, prices everywhere could tumble dramatically. Expect prices to fall significantly alright, so weighing up whether to get somewhere cheaper or rent til the dust settles on the virus and Brexit. Price drops will be uneven, but will fall across the board. In all honesty I'd rent if I was in your shoes, the Hanley area you mentioned earlier where properties are overlooking the canal seems nice enough, close to the station and D road, nice walks along the canal, handy for Hanley and the £6 million renovation of Hanley Park is nearing completion. You could end up next to a nightmare neighbour I suppose but you could say that about almost anywhere.
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Post by thevoid on May 22, 2020 9:46:25 GMT
Milton or Werrington. Like Penkhull, both have a village feel with nice local pubs. Would suit a driver really due to bus links.
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Post by muggleton on May 22, 2020 11:01:39 GMT
Expect prices to fall significantly alright, so weighing up whether to get somewhere cheaper or rent til the dust settles on the virus and Brexit. Price drops will be uneven, but will fall across the board. In all honesty I'd rent if I was in your shoes, the Hanley area you mentioned earlier where properties are overlooking the canal seems nice enough, close to the station and D road, nice walks along the canal, handy for Hanley and the £6 million renovation of Hanley Park is nearing completion. You could end up next to a nightmare neighbour I suppose but you could say that about almost anywhere. Renting definitely an option and nudging towards it at the minute. Find the cheap rentals a bit depressing looking and would begrudge paying the going rate for the nicer looking ones, but might be the compromise that's needed for a couple of years til things settle down. That bit along the canal in Hanley looks interesting alright, though regeneration schemes in Stoke don't have a great track record, and would worry about the sustainability of a new community like that. Could end up a dumping ground if they can't shift what they've built. Would also resent paying some spiv speculator for the privilege of living in his flat. Will take a closer look along the canal. Parking not being a nightmare is also a must, so most terraces could be ruled out. Work long hours and need to know I'll get parked when I'm the last one home in the street. So a 2 bed flat with allocated parking by the canal could be the job. Will do some sums re renting/buying.
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Post by muggleton on May 22, 2020 11:05:20 GMT
Milton or Werrington. Like Penkhull, both have a village feel with nice local pubs. Would suit a driver really due to bus links. Wrong side of the city for me mate, and too far from transport links.
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Post by elystokie on May 22, 2020 11:18:33 GMT
In all honesty I'd rent if I was in your shoes, the Hanley area you mentioned earlier where properties are overlooking the canal seems nice enough, close to the station and D road, nice walks along the canal, handy for Hanley and the £6 million renovation of Hanley Park is nearing completion. You could end up next to a nightmare neighbour I suppose but you could say that about almost anywhere. Renting definitely an option and nudging towards it at the minute. Find the cheap rentals a bit depressing looking and would begrudge paying the going rate for the nicer looking ones, but might be the compromise that's needed for a couple of years til things settle down. That bit along the canal in Hanley looks interesting alright, though regeneration schemes in Stoke don't have a great track record, and would worry about the sustainability of a new community like that. Could end up a dumping ground if they can't shift what they've built. Would also resent paying some spiv speculator for the privilege of living in his flat. Will take a closer look along the canal. Parking not being a nightmare is also a must, so most terraces could be ruled out. Work long hours and need to know I'll get parked when I'm the last one home in the street. So a 2 bed flat with allocated parking by the canal could be the job. Will do some sums re renting/buying. The street that the blood donor centre in Etruria is on has always interested me, Belmont Rd, there's some places along there with parking at the front and a lot of them have long gardens that back onto the canal, ideal if you're into fishing but a nice place to sit and relax anyway. Handy for the D road and the station is just along the canal.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 22, 2020 11:30:08 GMT
How about a two bed apartment on Lock 38. Right next to the canal and loads of parking. Also next to A500. Short stroll along canal to Stoke and Hanley.
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Post by murphthesurf on May 22, 2020 12:31:33 GMT
In all honesty I'd rent if I was in your shoes, the Hanley area you mentioned earlier where properties are overlooking the canal seems nice enough, close to the station and D road, nice walks along the canal, handy for Hanley and the £6 million renovation of Hanley Park is nearing completion. You could end up next to a nightmare neighbour I suppose but you could say that about almost anywhere. Renting definitely an option and nudging towards it at the minute. Find the cheap rentals a bit depressing looking and would begrudge paying the going rate for the nicer looking ones, but might be the compromise that's needed for a couple of years til things settle down. That bit along the canal in Hanley looks interesting alright, though regeneration schemes in Stoke don't have a great track record, and would worry about the sustainability of a new community like that. Could end up a dumping ground if they can't shift what they've built. Would also resent paying some spiv speculator for the privilege of living in his flat. Will take a closer look along the canal. Parking not being a nightmare is also a must, so most terraces could be ruled out. Work long hours and need to know I'll get parked when I'm the last one home in the street. So a 2 bed flat with allocated parking by the canal could be the job. Will do some sums re renting/buying. In the meantime you could always contact a few of the local Estate Agents, give them a spec and let them do the looking for you. Their wwws do contain details of the properties they're selling, so you can still view them very easily on line. Some of them do rentals as well as sales. I'll PM you a few + their www links. You said you're moving to Stoke for work reasons, so I don't know how familiar you already are with the area, if at all? Also not sure about the current lockdown & how far folks can drive or for what purposes etc. yet, but when it all gets less restricted you could maybe visit & stay over for a weekend and have a drive round to see what you think of the various places and their respective watering holes.
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Post by marylandstoke on May 22, 2020 12:33:46 GMT
I'm sure you are right. I was attempting a joke. Of course if I was a snob I might have said somewhere like Nantwich. If I came back to the area though I would probably head for Eccleshall. I lived in Eccleshall for a while. Long ago now but I loved it. Some great pubs locally back then.
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Post by muggleton on May 22, 2020 14:18:17 GMT
Renting definitely an option and nudging towards it at the minute. Find the cheap rentals a bit depressing looking and would begrudge paying the going rate for the nicer looking ones, but might be the compromise that's needed for a couple of years til things settle down. That bit along the canal in Hanley looks interesting alright, though regeneration schemes in Stoke don't have a great track record, and would worry about the sustainability of a new community like that. Could end up a dumping ground if they can't shift what they've built. Would also resent paying some spiv speculator for the privilege of living in his flat. Will take a closer look along the canal. Parking not being a nightmare is also a must, so most terraces could be ruled out. Work long hours and need to know I'll get parked when I'm the last one home in the street. So a 2 bed flat with allocated parking by the canal could be the job. Will do some sums re renting/buying. The street that the blood donor centre in Etruria is on has always interested me, Belmont Rd, there's some places along there with parking at the front and a lot of them have long gardens that back onto the canal, ideal if you're into fishing but a nice place to sit and relax anyway. Handy for the D road and the station is just along the canal. Now THAT'S the kind of local knowledge I'm looking for. I broadly know Stoke, would be aware of most of the areas mentioned (and have had a pint in the Holy Inadequate ✊), but don't know anywhere well enough to be confident in buying, and certainly wouldn't know individual streets or different parts of districts. Will take a look round Belmont Rd when I get a chance.
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Post by muggleton on May 22, 2020 14:19:57 GMT
How about a two bed apartment on Lock 38. Right next to the canal and loads of parking. Also next to A500. Short stroll along canal to Stoke and Hanley. Could be a goer mate, thanks.
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