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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 11:37:40 GMT
If this is designed to help stop situations like Wigan then I fear it will have the opposite effect. Lowering the salary cap is essentially making it cheaper to run a football club, therefore making it easier to bypass the 'fit and proper' persons test as evidence of less funds will need to be provided.
I fear this will make clubs at our level, just one below the 'promised land' more ripe for the picking from a few rogues that fancy a one pot shot at a quick buck.
All in all, it's quite ridiculous however, I dare say quite a few clubs will vote for this.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 29, 2020 13:27:37 GMT
Surely it will just make the gap between the Championship and PL even bigger? It's a good idea if it's implemented in the PL too. If it isn't then it's a debilitating move for the Championship. It can’t be implemented when many clubs are PLCs That would be restriction of trade as they can pay what they want I am sure salary caps would be challenged in court as restrictive trade practices. The American model of salary caps is sometimes used as an example of how this could work in the UK. However, it is only allowed in the US because professional sport is exempt from Anti-trust regulations. Anti-trust laws are designed to prevent monopolies. Ironically, making sport exempt is actually intended to prevent one team from dominating. For the most part it works by leveling the playing field (no pun intended) and giving teams in smaller TV markets like Kansas City and Green Bay an equal chance with teams in big cities like New York and LA. Of course it doesn’t stop teams like the New England Patriots from cheating, which is why they are universally despised outside Boston and known as the Cheatriots. I am curious why the FFP rules have not been challenged in the courts.
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Post by bolders on Aug 30, 2020 16:19:07 GMT
How much do we think these players are on? If we could get rid of them how much could we save and would we get under the salary cap?
Butland £23K Badoo £25k Etebo £30k Wimmer £30k Bauer £20k Lindsey £12k Bruno £29k
Total = £169Kpw x 52 = £8.8M a year
maybe one of; Afobe £27k Gregory £12K
Total = £39Kpw x 52 = £2.03M
Salaries taken from FM20 they are usually spot on with contracts
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Post by alanhudson1972 on Sept 2, 2020 9:24:28 GMT
They're having one in the Netherlands Eredivisie league, it's a Dutch cap 🇳🇱😁
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 20, 2021 14:52:05 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 20, 2021 16:03:06 GMT
Players like Baath, Ince, Brown and Vokes, I would cap it at £50 a/w.
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Post by march4 on Jan 20, 2021 16:07:12 GMT
All financial rules should be scrapped with immediate effect. They are restrictive and do nothing to reassign football’s finances more equally between the Premier League and the rest.
If a Championship club can afford to sign Messi and pay him ridiculous amounts of money why should football fans be denied seeing him play.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 17:55:44 GMT
All financial rules should be scrapped with immediate effect. They are restrictive and do nothing to reassign football’s finances more equally between the Premier League and the rest. If a Championship club can afford to sign Messi and pay him ridiculous amounts of money why should football fans be denied seeing him play. The Bosman ruling needs fucking off of there is to be no salary cap. It took all the power away from those paying the money and placed into into the hands of those being paid. Sky then made it ten times worse.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 20, 2021 18:38:41 GMT
All financial rules should be scrapped with immediate effect. They are restrictive and do nothing to reassign football’s finances more equally between the Premier League and the rest. If a Championship club can afford to sign Messi and pay him ridiculous amounts of money why should football fans be denied seeing him play. Exactly. Why would anyone with substantial amounts of money buy a Championship or lower football club when they would not be able to invest enough money or buy the quality of player to get them promoted without failing FFP or salary cap, when they could buy a lower Premier League team eg Burnley and throw money at them and keep them in the top league with their snout in the trough. It's simply another means of keeping the elite, elite and the rest, down.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 20, 2021 18:52:31 GMT
Absolutely ludicrous that it was even considered. Sod it off, and FFP.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 9, 2021 14:52:25 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 9, 2021 14:56:56 GMT
So the EFL wanted more salary caps even though the EFL had taken them to court presumably over the L1/L2 salary caps?
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Post by wuzza on Feb 9, 2021 15:00:07 GMT
From a purely selfish point of view this has got to be good news for us. Anything that brings into question these sort of rules surely helps in putting doubt into the validity of the whole FFP situation.
I know from experience in Rugby League that the cap there really hasn’t worked - all its done is bring down the quality of the game as players are lost overseas or to the other code left right and centre......and the same 3 damn teams keep winning the competition anyway.
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Post by andystokey on Feb 9, 2021 19:07:02 GMT
Profit and Sustainability is a crock of shit. All that needs to happen is the same as any other business basically ensure trading insolvent isn't allowed.
The owners of a football club could simply be forced to show they have sufficient reserves at the start of each season. If the owners want to spend £100m they just need to keep it in a visible audited account by the FA, demonstrate that they will maintain the solvency of the club.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 19:13:04 GMT
I think we should have celery caps instead. kind of cool and a great Father's day present for the veggie Dad Attachments:
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 9, 2021 19:45:54 GMT
It is excellent news for some clubs and for a friend of mine it's great news.
He had to leave his young family behind to fo and play abroad because dropping below the championship, due to salary cap, just wasn't an option for him.
Suspect he'll have a new club here for next season now.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 10, 2021 11:22:30 GMT
It is excellent news for some clubs and for a friend of mine it's great news. He had to leave his young family behind to fo and play abroad because dropping below the championship, due to salary cap, just wasn't an option for him. Suspect he'll have a new club here for next season now. As I read it, it’s only a temporary shift. Clubs need to consult properly before implementing a change so next season could look different
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 13:08:24 GMT
I think a salary cap of £18 million is more than fair . To keep the maths simple ,let's assume Stoke were to have 18 full time pros and say 6 or 7 youngsters on some sort of apprenticeship then that's 18 players on roughly a million quid a year
It's simply staggering that Stoke spend double this amount
If scholes and JC are so stupid as to spend 36 million a year ,on wimmer , vokes etc .Then , yes it is necessary for the EFL to ban them from doing this .
They are the architects of their own downfall and deserve to be banned from paying 36 million a year in wages .
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 10, 2021 20:48:40 GMT
I think a salary cap of £18 million is more than fair . To keep the maths simple ,let's assume Stoke were to have 18 full time pros and say 6 or 7 youngsters on some sort of apprenticeship then that's 18 players on roughly a million quid a year It's simply staggering that Stoke spend double this amount If scholes and JC are so stupid as to spend 36 million a year ,on wimmer , vokes etc .Then , yes it is necessary for the EFL to ban them from doing this . They are the architects of their own downfall and deserve to be banned from paying 36 million a year in wages . Actually prem needs a salary cap if the other divisions enforce one, no exceptions to the rule. Otherwise no FFP and no caps is the only way, clubs shouldn't be able to purchase based on debt and money should be with proof of purchase just like when buying a house. Owners should not be able to buy a club and write the debt to the club, it's bizarre. The gap between all clubs needs decreasing not increasing, the sport is already boring as a competition. It is entertaining if you like football, but as an actual competitive sport? It's really predictable. Money wins either way, FFP makes that worse with regards to the top end. It actually makes more sense to bankroll the championship to get it closer to the level of the prem than to distance it, but again money wins. Caps in all leagues = superleague within the month.
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