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Post by madnellie on Sept 16, 2020 15:13:12 GMT
Genuinely sad to read this.
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 16, 2020 15:17:17 GMT
How about this..... when an agent is due a fee, it gets paid to a central governing body that regulates how agents operate. The agent in question then gets the fee in instalments across the life of the players contract.... so let’s say they are due a £1m fee for a transfer of a player who has signed a 3yr contract, they get £333k immediately and the remaining two thirds at each anniversary of the players contract. If the player doesn’t reach the anniversary because they’ve moved or signed an improved contract, then the remainder of the fee gets forfeited and goes into the pot to fund struggling clubs. Obviously the agent then gets a new fee linked to the new deal, again payable in instalments. Aswell as creating a fund pot, this should disincentivise unscrupulous agents who are always seeking to move their player on, as they’ll lose part of the fee they’re due. Why don't the players pay their agents, they are working on their behalf, why should the club have to pay for them ? Good question, but I think if it came to the player having to pay the agent, they’d just inflate signing on fees to cover it which in turn would mean the club would pay it indirectly anyway.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 16, 2020 16:03:10 GMT
Why don't the players pay their agents, they are working on their behalf, why should the club have to pay for them ? Good question, but I think if it came to the player having to pay the agent, they’d just inflate signing on fees to cover it which in turn would mean the club would pay it indirectly anyway. Best solution would be to ban agents completely and allow the PFA, to represent players and five percent of all transfer fees being the fee paid by the purchasing club And the money held in a fund to support players not getting paid and to supply interest free loans to clubs that find themselves in temporary difficulty
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 16:15:03 GMT
They also take acut ofplayer's salaries
Agree a scourge on the game but as long as players employ them and clubs dealwith themthen nothing much can be done.
Since Mac have been in the football league they've struggled financially,for smaller clubs,going up not alwaysagood thing.I wondered in the current climate if the owners at Port Vale considered that at the end of last season
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 16:37:36 GMT
I mean this has been coming for as long as I can remember. They play at too a high a level to be sustainable. The people of Macc support the two Manchester clubs. Hopefully they will reform and flourish as a lower league club. The long term issue would be the ground The Moss Rose ground is owned by Cheshire East Council. The club's owner, Amar Alkadhi, has bled the club dry to support his own playboy lifestyle.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Sept 16, 2020 16:38:33 GMT
Macc are ( were ) my second team after living in the town for a few years in the 70s and I've gone to a few games a season ever since.
I was at their first ever Football League home game, which I expected to be a sell out - it was less than half full.
I knew then it would be a struggle.
Under McIlroy they played some of the most beautiful football I have seen anywhere in nearly 60 years, and my last visit there, in October, saw them come from behind to beat the Vale in a thoroughly entertaining and fully contested game.
Great memories, but I'd rather not have to have them as now they are the only ones I can have.
Sad, sad, day
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Sept 16, 2020 16:39:13 GMT
The long term issue would be the ground The Moss Rose ground is owned by Cheshire East Council. The club's owner, Amar Alkadhi, has bled the club dry to support his own playboy lifestyle. And somehow kept getting away with it....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 16:39:49 GMT
Devastating news. This I fear is the first of many. Really disturbing news infact. What is utterly bizarre is that in the last 3 weeks they've appointed a new Manager and in the last 7 days signed 8 players ! Did none of them see this coming ? The club's owner Amar Alkadhi is a fantasist. He has bled the club dry.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Sept 16, 2020 16:41:28 GMT
The long term issue would be the ground Definitely. And let’s be honest someone will make more money from building houses on it than playing football on there for the next 100 years. Geographically its in a crap location to become housing. Lidl maybe
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Post by Timmypotter on Sept 16, 2020 21:22:20 GMT
Really sad news. Macc Town run the after school sports club at my boys' school. Not sure what will happen to those now. Seemed like a top bunch of lads who did it so hopefully there are arrangements for them to carry on in their jobs through the council.
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 16, 2020 22:21:21 GMT
Macc are ( were ) my second team after living in the town for a few years in the 70s and I've gone to a few games a season ever since. I was at their first ever Football League home game, which I expected to be a sell out - it was less than half full. I knew then it would be a struggle. Under McIlroy they played some of the most beautiful football I have seen anywhere in nearly 60 years, and my last visit there, in October, saw them come from behind to beat the Vale in a thoroughly entertaining and fully contested game. Great memories, but I'd rather not have to have them as now they are the only ones I can have. Sad, sad, day We don’t need gloryhunters like you on here ,but been serious it’s a very sad day for football
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 29, 2020 16:08:37 GMT
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Post by Goonie on Sept 29, 2020 16:10:54 GMT
The Macc Lads do not like this Sad day RIP Macc Town
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 29, 2020 17:06:33 GMT
Clubs will start collapsing like a deck of cards soon.
FA just announced 6th Tier games behind closed doors, how are they going to survive that???
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Post by spiderpuss on Sept 29, 2020 17:59:39 GMT
Clubs will start collapsing like a deck of cards soon. FA just announced 6th Tier games behind closed doors, how are they going to survive that??? The only way I can think of is to stop the league and put everyone what ever has replaced the furlough. Does that even work any more? Seems a ridiculous decision.
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Post by nonameface on Sept 29, 2020 19:19:09 GMT
This may sound bad, but what's wrong with clubs going bust and football leagues starting again?
There's too much distance from fans and football clubs now; money is destroying competition and people's interest in it.
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 29, 2020 19:25:46 GMT
Macclesfield relied on large local businesses for sponsorship to survive, but like many areas those historic businesses have either closed due to Far East competition or relocated ( I think as a area with a skilled workforce we can relate with this). But what pisses me right off, is that Premier League superstars and managers have decided to make the areas surrounding Macclesfield home. They use the schools, leisure facilities and the local NHS hospital ! But do you see any one of them come forward and put something back into the town ? The fans of Macclesfield Town are just as passionate about their club as any Stoke City fan and they are a realistic bunch who new they were punching above their weight in the football league, but they never envisaged that their club would be allowed to die without fight ? One of the saddest things I have seen, was a clothes rack outside the entrance to the ground full of the clubs home shirts with a sign, Please take one. It was a small reward to the fans for before the vultures descended.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 29, 2020 20:49:23 GMT
Yep, the first of many to go I guess
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Post by Squeekster on Sept 29, 2020 21:55:54 GMT
Macclesfield relied on large local businesses for sponsorship to survive, but like many areas those historic businesses have either closed due to Far East competition or relocated ( I think as a area with a skilled workforce we can relate with this). But what pisses me right off, is that Premier League superstars and managers have decided to make the areas surrounding Macclesfield home. They use the schools, leisure facilities and the local NHS hospital ! But do you see any one of them come forward and put something back into the town ? The fans of Macclesfield Town are just as passionate about their club as any Stoke City fan and they are a realistic bunch who new they were punching above their weight in the football league, but they never envisaged that their club would be allowed to die without fight ? One of the saddest things I have seen, was a clothes rack outside the entrance to the ground full of the clubs home shirts with a sign, Please take one. It was a small reward to the fans for before the vultures descended. Maccs owner screwed them over!
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 30, 2020 6:46:17 GMT
Macclesfield relied on large local businesses for sponsorship to survive, but like many areas those historic businesses have either closed due to Far East competition or relocated ( I think as a area with a skilled workforce we can relate with this). But what pisses me right off, is that Premier League superstars and managers have decided to make the areas surrounding Macclesfield home. They use the schools, leisure facilities and the local NHS hospital ! But do you see any one of them come forward and put something back into the town ? The fans of Macclesfield Town are just as passionate about their club as any Stoke City fan and they are a realistic bunch who new they were punching above their weight in the football league, but they never envisaged that their club would be allowed to die without fight ? One of the saddest things I have seen, was a clothes rack outside the entrance to the ground full of the clubs home shirts with a sign, Please take one. It was a small reward to the fans for before the vultures descended. Maccs owner screwed them over! He won’t be the first and he definitely won’t be the last, if clubs start collapsing or going into administration a scenario may arise where the fortunate few who are backed by wealthy owners could gain promotion by default.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 30, 2020 7:31:48 GMT
Clubs will start collapsing like a deck of cards soon. FA just announced 6th Tier games behind closed doors, how are they going to survive that??? Are you talking about tier six non league Or tier six football pyramid As tier six football pyramid is national league North /South which is step 2 non league
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 15:22:26 GMT
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Post by madnellie on Oct 1, 2020 15:34:00 GMT
I know there are worse things happening in the world right now, but this is still heartbreaking to see.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Oct 1, 2020 15:47:15 GMT
Macclesfield relied on large local businesses for sponsorship to survive, but like many areas those historic businesses have either closed due to Far East competition or relocated ( I think as a area with a skilled workforce we can relate with this). But what pisses me right off, is that Premier League superstars and managers have decided to make the areas surrounding Macclesfield home. They use the schools, leisure facilities and the local NHS hospital ! But do you see any one of them come forward and put something back into the town ? The fans of Macclesfield Town are just as passionate about their club as any Stoke City fan and they are a realistic bunch who new they were punching above their weight in the football league, but they never envisaged that their club would be allowed to die without fight ? One of the saddest things I have seen, was a clothes rack outside the entrance to the ground full of the clubs home shirts with a sign, Please take one. It was a small reward to the fans for before the vultures descended. Yes some relocated or closed but quite a few refused to give any more sponsorship or get involved solely because of the owner's "approach" to matters. And Macc may have punched above their weight but they managed 15 seasons in the FL which is an awful lot more than many other promoted teams with bigger crowds
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Post by liam007 on Oct 3, 2020 13:57:28 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 13, 2020 12:18:11 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 13, 2020 12:37:07 GMT
Great news on the face of it.
A few questions though.
1) Where were they before this? Or was it just a case of the onwer at the time wouldn't have sold anyway? 2) Did them being so high in the pyramid put them off?
It's a club that imo is stale and needs this shot up the arm. If they can make it community focussed and start to turn the culture around then it can only be a good thing for the club and area. It'll be tough though because the people of Macc generally seem very detached from the club.
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 13, 2020 13:02:35 GMT
Great news on the face of it. A few questions though. 1) Where were they before this? Or was it just a case of the onwer at the time wouldn't have sold anyway? 2) Did them being so high in the pyramid put them off? It's a club that imo is stale and needs this shot up the arm. If they can make it community focussed and start to turn the culture around then it can only be a good thing for the club and area. It'll be tough though because the people of Macc generally seem very detached from the club. By all accounts they had a buyer but the owner was being an arse and it fell through.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 13, 2020 13:06:10 GMT
Great news on the face of it. A few questions though. 1) Where were they before this? Or was it just a case of the onwer at the time wouldn't have sold anyway? 2) Did them being so high in the pyramid put them off? It's a club that imo is stale and needs this shot up the arm. If they can make it community focussed and start to turn the culture around then it can only be a good thing for the club and area. It'll be tough though because the people of Macc generally seem very detached from the club. By all accounts they had a buyer but the owner was being an arse and it fell through. Annoying but I actually think this is really good for them tbh. I know for a fact they use the excellent facility at Sandbach for training and their youth games but what a trek that is really. No idea why they used Sandbach, if it is because the facilities are so good or because it was deal somewhere. No idea but I always thought it odd on two counts, the distance and why the hell haven't Macc got a facility like that themselves or close to? I can only imagine if Savage is involved and as big of an arse he is, he's firmly involved in grass roots etc I think they'll get some community facilities that are training pitches as well and it will benefit the town.
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Post by madnellie on Oct 13, 2020 13:07:42 GMT
Great news on the face of it. A few questions though. 1) Where were they before this? Or was it just a case of the onwer at the time wouldn't have sold anyway? 2) Did them being so high in the pyramid put them off? It's a club that imo is stale and needs this shot up the arm. If they can make it community focussed and start to turn the culture around then it can only be a good thing for the club and area. It'll be tough though because the people of Macc generally seem very detached from the club. I not ITK but a couple of family members were/are STHs at Macc and apparently several local businessmen tried, but it was all down to the old owner refusing to sell and basically running them into the ground. Edit: Squeekster beat me to it
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