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sankoh
May 7, 2020 23:52:06 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 23:52:06 GMT
Nothing we can do and to be fair we took him from Sparta. I don't think taking him from Sparta is about being fair. It's good we took him from Sparta. Having done that we have to show our mettle and keep him for the future but if we don't make the premier within the next couple of seasons we'd have to let him go. The advantage would be that we probably get substantially more for him. Depends how good he is really and how much truth in the stories. He's still young and very raw. To be honest if I was him I would jump at the chance to go to Spain but a good angle to do what Campbell did and get a contract out of us when the time comes. I saw him once and thought he was pretty hopeless but thought the same first time I saw Tammy Abraham, he was so bad was untrue but worked at his game. You can't judge a player by one game of course and he's very young
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sankoh
May 8, 2020 8:38:46 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 8, 2020 8:38:46 GMT
I hope as you do but I think we are clutching at straws. Is letting go of this young man an indication of Stoke' ambition or lack of? Nothing we can do and to be fair we took him from Sparta. The update I read sounded like he was happy to stay, it also said he moved to the uk after his mum got a job in the west midlands maybe we just got lucky as I assume if the job was arranged via the club it would be in staffordshire you'd think.
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Post by biglad180 on May 8, 2020 8:42:03 GMT
it seems that Mo Sankoh is happy at stoke that can only be good news, i think we have some very good young strikers coming through our youth ranks that con only be good for the future of stoke city,lets get them tied down on contracts as soon as possible, if the vultures then come calling at least they will have to pay, i think next season maybe time to break them into our first team squad so they know they have a good chance with us.
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sankoh
May 8, 2020 8:49:48 GMT
Post by liathroid on May 8, 2020 8:49:48 GMT
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sankoh
May 8, 2020 10:14:03 GMT
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Post by ab61 on May 8, 2020 10:14:03 GMT
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sankoh
May 8, 2020 10:48:03 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 8, 2020 10:48:03 GMT
it seems that Mo Sankoh is happy at stoke that can only be good news, i think we have some very good young strikers coming through our youth ranks that con only be good for the future of stoke city,lets get them tied down on contracts as soon as possible, if the vultures then come calling at least they will have to pay, i think next season maybe time to break them into our first team squad so they know they have a good chance with us. I imagine the stories that have all come out are quite helpful as his agent looks at signing his first pro deal in October should hopefully focus our minds on offering him a more generous package plus we can start mapping out his pathway to the team, assume Diouf and Gregory will leave, to leave us with Tyrese, Vokes and Afobe and / or a replacement, there is then a decision do they sign another striker or offer the carrot of being around the squad / on the bench as physically he looks as if he could handle that.
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sankoh
May 8, 2020 15:02:30 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on May 8, 2020 15:02:30 GMT
If true and he's staying he must be a sensible lad or have good advicers! If more and more sought after talent decides to stay at Stoke that is really good for our reputation, and a recognition of the job that is done in our academy!
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sankoh
May 8, 2020 15:15:33 GMT
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Post by sportsman on May 8, 2020 15:15:33 GMT
Surely we'll look to sell for a club record 250k π
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Post by robwahlmann on May 8, 2020 15:36:16 GMT
Our academy is really starting to show it was money well spent, another thumb up for the Coates family for me! I'm really impressed!
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sankoh
May 8, 2020 16:43:51 GMT
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Post by Cast no shadow on May 8, 2020 16:43:51 GMT
Never knew he moved to UK because his mum did
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sankoh
May 8, 2020 19:25:07 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2020 19:25:07 GMT
Never knew he moved to UK because his mum did What a lovely coincidence. ππ
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sankoh
May 8, 2020 19:28:15 GMT
Post by sean on May 8, 2020 19:28:15 GMT
Never knew he moved to UK because his mum did What a lovely coincidence. ππ Does his mum work for a betting company by any chance ?
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sankoh
May 8, 2020 21:12:53 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 8, 2020 21:12:53 GMT
What a lovely coincidence. ππ Does his mum work for a betting company by any chance ? No She moved before we signed him
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sankoh
May 9, 2020 16:10:38 GMT
Post by liathroid on May 9, 2020 16:10:38 GMT
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sankoh
May 9, 2020 17:07:02 GMT
Post by biglad180 on May 9, 2020 17:07:02 GMT
this is a bit of shit stirring i think.
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sankoh
May 10, 2020 12:26:23 GMT
Post by banksisgod on May 10, 2020 12:26:23 GMT
With little, if anything, going on in the world of sport, it's only to be expected that hacks will come up with all sorts to justify their existence. It remains to be seen if there's truth in any of it. Hopefully, Sankoh and his family are the mature and level-headed people that some have described, and that he is truly enjoying his time at the club under really good guidance at youth level. Hopefully, also, he will look at the progress of the likes of Campbell, Verlinden, Collins and others, and recognise that he has a real chance of a breakthrough to the first-team squad under M O'N, and quickly. If, however, it is true that the vultures are circling, and he is seduced by the big-club attention, I sincerely hope he doesn't consider Tottenham under Mourinho. He would disappear there. Mourinho is a cheque-book coach, and has a history of over-looking young talent at whatever club he's at. In terms of age and development, Parrott at Spurs is several notches ahead of Sankoh, yet he hasn't had a sniff, even when Kane was out. There is also the small matter that I personally loathe Mourinho to the very core of my being.
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sankoh
May 10, 2020 16:32:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 16:32:23 GMT
With little, if anything, going on in the world of sport, it's only to be expected that hacks will come up with all sorts to justify their existence. It remains to be seen if there's truth in any of it. Hopefully, Sankoh and his family are the mature and level-headed people that some have described, and that he is truly enjoying his time at the club under really good guidance at youth level. Hopefully, also, he will look at the progress of the likes of Campbell, Verlinden, Collins and others, and recognise that he has a real chance of a breakthrough to the first-team squad under M O'N, and quickly. If, however, it is true that the vultures are circling, and he is seduced by the big-club attention, I sincerely hope he doesn't consider Tottenham under Mourinho. He would disappear there. Mourinho is a cheque-book coach, and has a history of over-looking young talent at whatever club he's at. In terms of age and development, Parrott at Spurs is several notches ahead of Sankoh, yet he hasn't had a sniff, even when Kane was out. There is also the small matter that I personally loathe Mourinho to the very core of my being. Big fan of Troy Parrott but don't think he's ready yet. Needs a season out on loan, looked nervy in the Carabao Cup and could see Mourinho's reluctance to throw him in. Was talking to James McClean about him oddly a few weeks back and mentuoned QPR wanted him
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sankoh
May 10, 2020 18:00:40 GMT
Post by banksisgod on May 10, 2020 18:00:40 GMT
That's interesting what McClean said. on the Sankoh issue, however, as a sixteen-year-old, could you imagine how many loans he would have to endure as a Tottenham player before Mourinho would look sideways at him? Another year with the Academy here (having signed a professional contract), a year on loan at Division 2 level, or abroad, and he's ready to go up front with Campbell, with Godfrinne lurking in the background. Presumably, everything is starting to take shape in the way Peter Coates envisaged when he spent that money to give us "state of the art" facilities for the Academy. He has the right scouting and coaching team in place; the word has travelled around that Stoke is a place for a young player to be and, economically, it makes so much sense to be able to have a conveyor-belt from Academy to first-team squad. If big clubs are circling around our more talented "cubs", and with the first team manager and resources we have, I can't imagine that we would let anyone go without an almighty fight. The cause would be helped immeasurably, however, if we got promoted next year.
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sankoh
May 10, 2020 19:35:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 19:35:57 GMT
Him and every other cunt that doesn't want to play for stoke can get to fuck.
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sankoh
May 10, 2020 19:51:22 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 10, 2020 19:51:22 GMT
Him and every other cunt that doesn't want to play for stoke can get to fuck. Who actually wants to play for Stoke? π
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Post by mickstupp on May 10, 2020 20:48:34 GMT
Him and every other cunt that doesn't want to play for stoke can get to fuck. Who actually wants to play for Stoke? π Me. But at 42 I would admit that my chances are slim
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Post by banksisgod on May 10, 2020 20:50:54 GMT
Who wants to play for Stoke? Well, Tyrese Campbell for a start, once he saw the wisdom of turning down overtures from Celtic, Rangers, and a number of Premiership clubs. If we can keep the kids we have, there is every reason for us to approach the next 10/15 years with confidence. Are you feeling ok, Bayern? This negativity is most unbecoming!
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Post by PotteringThrough on May 10, 2020 21:01:48 GMT
Who actually wants to play for Stoke? π Me. But at 42 I would admit that my chances are slim Never give up!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 10, 2020 21:02:16 GMT
Who wants to play for Stoke? Well, Tyrese Campbell for a start, once he saw the wisdom of turning down overtures from Celtic, Rangers, and a number of Premiership clubs. If we can keep the kids we have, there is every reason for us to approach the next 10/15 years with confidence. Are you feeling ok, Bayern? This negativity is most unbecoming! Two clubs in a shite league. Weβre a stepping stone. Which is fine. No one really wants to play for Stoke who is useful (no offence mickstupp π)
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Post by banksisgod on May 11, 2020 17:00:42 GMT
God, I hope I never end up as depressed about the club as you seem to be, Bayern! Ryan Shawcross has now been at the club for 12/13 years. Are you suggesting that he is no good? Equally, are you suggesting that contentment at a club that treats it's staff and players with respect and loyalty holds no currency?
I, for one, truly believe that there are people out there who recognise the value in owners who ferry their supporters to away games free of charge; who go through with the purchase of a player with a broken leg (Rory), because it was the honourable thing to do, and who hold the price of the season ticket for years-on-end. That, added to the small fortune spent on the facilities, the acquisition of a "game-changing" manager, and the club's ability to compete financially with most other clubs, are reasons enough for me to believe that have in the past, and will continue to want to play for Stoke.
If you think I am being naive, I am happy and proud to be so.
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sankoh
May 11, 2020 17:20:21 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2020 17:20:21 GMT
God, I hope I never end up as depressed about the club as you seem to be, Bayern! Ryan Shawcross has now been at the club for 12/13 years. Are you suggesting that he is no good? Equally, are you suggesting that contentment at a club that treats it's staff and players with respect and loyalty holds no currency? I, for one, truly believe that there are people out there who recognise the value in owners who ferry their supporters to away games free of charge; who go through with the purchase of a player with a broken leg (Rory), because it was the honourable thing to do, and who hold the price of the season ticket for years-on-end. That, added to the small fortune spent on the facilities, the acquisition of a "game-changing" manager, and the club's ability to compete financially with most other clubs, are reasons enough for me to believe that have in the past, and will continue to want to play for Stoke. If you think I am being naive, I am happy and proud to be so. I think Shawcross has been vey loyal to the detriement of his career yes. You're missing the point and taking it personally. Stoke City isn't a draw for many if any players is it? Who dreams of playing for Stoke apart from us? That's just how it is, it's nothing to get shirty about.
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sankoh
May 11, 2020 18:51:03 GMT
Post by banksisgod on May 11, 2020 18:51:03 GMT
I'm not shirty one bit; I just happen to believe that no young player, with dreams of a professional career, comes to the club with their shoulders hunched, feeling that they should be doing better. Sure, some will see Stoke as a stepping stone to bigger things. Others, I'm sure, are delighted to be joining a "big club", with big ambitions, and who treat everyone in the correct way.
People are different, and look for different things in a club. Just ask Campbell and Collins, both of whom have just signed long contracts. Ambitious as they are, with many suitors, neither would have done so if they weren't happy to be here.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2020 19:23:46 GMT
I'm sure they're happy yes but there's a massive difference between that and wanting to play for Stoke. I've always found it an odd notion.
They have, for a big wage increase and probably with a buyout clause in. They're not doing it for their love of Stoke City.
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sankoh
May 11, 2020 20:59:30 GMT
Post by banksisgod on May 11, 2020 20:59:30 GMT
You've lost me, I'm afraid. How can a player be happy at a club, but not want to play for that club, unless you are embarking on some major hair-splitting exercise? For some players - the likes of Pearce, Milner, Keane and many others - their duty as professionals overrides all other considerations. I'm sure every club has them. They are also the types that younger kids at a club - any club - look up to. Shawcross is our most obvious one, but Whelan and Walters were others. The final piece of the jigsaw is a manager able to harness all of the good, and expel the bad. For the first time in a while, we have that in O'Neill. Finally, and it may not be to everyone's taste, but do you really think that Joe Allen and James McClean would be chucking their own money around the community if they didn't love the club?
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sankoh
May 11, 2020 21:27:42 GMT
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Post by RF10 on May 11, 2020 21:27:42 GMT
You've lost me, I'm afraid. How can a player be happy at a club, but not want to play for that club, unless you are embarking on some major hair-splitting exercise? For some players - the likes of Pearce, Milner, Keane and many others - their duty as professionals overrides all other considerations. I'm sure every club has them. They are also the types that younger kids at a club - any club - look up to. Shawcross is our most obvious one, but Whelan and Walters were others. The final piece of the jigsaw is a manager able to harness all of the good, and expel the bad. For the first time in a while, we have that in O'Neill. Finally, and it may not be to everyone's taste, but do you really think that Joe Allen and James McClean would be chucking their own money around the community if they didn't love the club? All the players you've mentioned though wouldn't choose to play for us if a much better club came in for them, I think that's the point. Even Ryan who has been a fantastic servant, if a Premier league club in a comfortable position came in for him he would probably want to move. Better still if Man Utd came back in for him when he was on top form he would have wanted to go. Shearer turned down many moves to Man Utd, but if Newcastle were in a much lower position he wouldn't have hung around.
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