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Post by franklin66 on May 29, 2020 18:00:27 GMT
One of the prettiest fruit shrubs that Can be grown in a pot has got to be the pomegranate. I have two over 20 years old. I also have an olive tree which is hardy and 20 years old. Both can overwinter in the garden with bubble wrap around them. Hmmm that's good to hear I love them too so I'll keep an eye out for one and try it.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 20:01:17 GMT
We went to our local garden centre last weekend and bought four agapanthus roots (2 blue and 2 white) for £2 the lot - they were normally priced at £4.50 each. I thought it was a bit risky as it's quite late to be planting them but I soaked them in water for a couple of hours then planted them in pots of compost with lots of grit for drainage and crossed my fingers. Been into the greenhouse and checked them this afternoon and three of them are showing green leaves already. Bargain !
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Post by slicko on May 30, 2020 11:12:20 GMT
One of the prettiest fruit shrubs that Can be grown in a pot has got to be the pomegranate. I have two over 20 years old. I also have an olive tree which is hardy and 20 years old. Both can overwinter in the garden with bubble wrap around them. Hmmm that's good to hear I love them too so I'll keep an eye out for one and try it. Grow pomegranate from the seeds of the cheap fruit from most greengrocers and if you’re lucky, olives from cuttings
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 11:46:51 GMT
One of the prettiest fruit shrubs that Can be grown in a pot has got to be the pomegranate. I have two over 20 years old. I also have an olive tree which is hardy and 20 years old. Both can overwinter in the garden with bubble wrap around them. Ive had an eye on the proper gnarled old ancient olive trees, everyone's said olives grown in britain and wintered outside are tart and not tasty. I love the actual trees enough to do it anyway it's just finding a spare £500+
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 12:11:08 GMT
One of the prettiest fruit shrubs that Can be grown in a pot has got to be the pomegranate. I have two over 20 years old. I also have an olive tree which is hardy and 20 years old. Both can overwinter in the garden with bubble wrap around them. Ive had an eye on the proper gnarled old ancient olive trees, everyone's said olives grown in britain and wintered outside are tart and not tasty. I love the actual trees enough to do it anyway it's just finding a spare £500+ I saw a programme on the Beeb yesterday where Monty Don was helping a woman do a makeover in her garden in London. She found a lovely old gnarled olive tree to place in a huge raised bed - I think she said it cost "somewhere between £1,000 to £1,250" !
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Post by slicko on May 30, 2020 12:59:15 GMT
One of the prettiest fruit shrubs that Can be grown in a pot has got to be the pomegranate. I have two over 20 years old. I also have an olive tree which is hardy and 20 years old. Both can overwinter in the garden with bubble wrap around them. Ive had an eye on the proper gnarled old ancient olive trees, everyone's said olives grown in britain and wintered outside are tart and not tasty. I love the actual trees enough to do it anyway it's just finding a spare £500+ Grow it from a £10 plant and be patient. You’ll eventually be rewarded with the finest of trees.
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Post by franklin66 on May 30, 2020 14:32:08 GMT
Ive had an eye on the proper gnarled old ancient olive trees, everyone's said olives grown in britain and wintered outside are tart and not tasty. I love the actual trees enough to do it anyway it's just finding a spare £500+ I saw a programme on the Beeb yesterday where Monty Don was helping a woman do a makeover in her garden in London. She found a lovely old gnarled olive tree to place in a huge raised bed - I think she said it cost "somewhere between £1,000 to £1,250" ! I'm no Monty and I've lost plants before but I've been cheap, the most I've paid was about £30 for a tree, most of my plants are seed grown or small seedlings for a few quid. No way on gods earth would I pay 1k for a plant even if I could afford it.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 15:02:25 GMT
I saw a programme on the Beeb yesterday where Monty Don was helping a woman do a makeover in her garden in London. She found a lovely old gnarled olive tree to place in a huge raised bed - I think she said it cost "somewhere between £1,000 to £1,250" ! I'm no Monty and I've lost plants before but I've been cheap, the most I've paid was about £30 for a tree, most of my plants are seed grown or small seedlings for a few quid. No way on gods earth would I pay 1k for a plant even if I could afford it. Same here mate - I just couldn't justify it to myself and I'd be gutted if it died. My maximum priced buy is about £20. Most of my plants are self grown, or I buy them small (so cheaper) and then grow them on.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 15:58:02 GMT
I saw a programme on the Beeb yesterday where Monty Don was helping a woman do a makeover in her garden in London. She found a lovely old gnarled olive tree to place in a huge raised bed - I think she said it cost "somewhere between £1,000 to £1,250" ! I'm no Monty and I've lost plants before but I've been cheap, the most I've paid was about £30 for a tree, most of my plants are seed grown or small seedlings for a few quid. No way on gods earth would I pay 1k for a plant even if I could afford it. I get your point there it does seem a bit much. But you're literally buying time, as Slicko suggested above a bit of patience will give me a good tree for a tenner in time. (fair point) However, let's say I live another 60 years and at the end of that it'd start looking like I want it, I can't get the authenticity that comes with age and that I suppose is what you pay for. If I had a grand to throw away I definitely would on trees, but mainly because I seem to be a bit obsessed with them for my new garden. If you really fancy an eye-opener have a little look at these: www.kingsdown-uk.com/wholesale-plants/trees/mature-fruit-trees/
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Post by franklin66 on May 30, 2020 16:14:26 GMT
I'm no Monty and I've lost plants before but I've been cheap, the most I've paid was about £30 for a tree, most of my plants are seed grown or small seedlings for a few quid. No way on gods earth would I pay 1k for a plant even if I could afford it. I get your point there it does seem a bit much. But you're literally buying time, as Slicko suggested above a bit of patience will give me a good tree for a tenner in time. (fair point) However, let's say I live another 60 years and at the end of that it'd start looking like I want it, I can't get the authenticity that comes with age and that I suppose is what you pay for. If I had a grand to throw away I definitely would on trees, but mainly because I seem to be a bit obsessed with them for my new garden. If you really fancy an eye-opener have a little look at these: www.kingsdown-uk.com/wholesale-plants/trees/mature-fruit-trees/ If I was building a Chelsea garden then fair enough you need the instant effect, my pleasure comes from seeing things grow from nothing.
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Post by slicko on May 30, 2020 16:24:07 GMT
I'm no Monty and I've lost plants before but I've been cheap, the most I've paid was about £30 for a tree, most of my plants are seed grown or small seedlings for a few quid. No way on gods earth would I pay 1k for a plant even if I could afford it. I get your point there it does seem a bit much. But you're literally buying time, as Slicko suggested above a bit of patience will give me a good tree for a tenner in time. (fair point) However, let's say I live another 60 years and at the end of that it'd start looking like I want it, I can't get the authenticity that comes with age and that I suppose is what you pay for. If I had a grand to throw away I definitely would on trees, but mainly because I seem to be a bit obsessed with them for my new garden. If you really fancy an eye-opener have a little look at these: www.kingsdown-uk.com/wholesale-plants/trees/mature-fruit-trees/ We share the tree passion. My favourites are Cercis and Montpellier Maple. Both grown from seeds collected a decade ago in the Torcal mountains in Andalusia. Tha maple is rare and now a 6 foot globe!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 23:27:05 GMT
I get your point there it does seem a bit much. But you're literally buying time, as Slicko suggested above a bit of patience will give me a good tree for a tenner in time. (fair point) However, let's say I live another 60 years and at the end of that it'd start looking like I want it, I can't get the authenticity that comes with age and that I suppose is what you pay for. If I had a grand to throw away I definitely would on trees, but mainly because I seem to be a bit obsessed with them for my new garden. If you really fancy an eye-opener have a little look at these: www.kingsdown-uk.com/wholesale-plants/trees/mature-fruit-trees/ We share the tree passion. My favourites are Cercis and Montpellier Maple. Both grown from seeds collected a decade ago in the Torcal mountains in Andalusia. Tha maple is rare and now a 6 foot globe! They're all so beautiful! I picked three plum trees up the other day and now I need to find a way to stop the roots from wrecking my house or others'!
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Post by slicko on Jun 3, 2020 6:45:34 GMT
We share the tree passion. My favourites are Cercis and Montpellier Maple. Both grown from seeds collected a decade ago in the Torcal mountains in Andalusia. Tha maple is rare and now a 6 foot globe! They're all so beautiful! I picked three plum trees up the other day and now I need to find a way to stop the roots from wrecking my house or others'! Would only become a problem after decades of left unchecked. You could dig and refill a trench alongside your foundations every couple of years to check no root invasion. Espalier plums look divine.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 3, 2020 10:50:15 GMT
Some decent sales on pots at Bridgemere 2for1 on terracotta so got two for £30. All my planting is done now replenished all 7 of my pots now, boarders done and over 200 bulbs in the last 12months in. I have my new Sunburst cherry to go with my crabapple both bearing fruit. One recommendation is a California lilac an evergreen with masses of blue flowers like little pompoms the insects love it now to sit back and enjoy the summer.
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 3, 2020 12:18:39 GMT
Right, then, here's a bit of a swerve - no-one's mentioned damsons yet. I'd really love to have a damson tree - been doing a bit of on-line research and fancy either a 'Farleigh Damson' or a 'Merryweather', like those in the links, although I'd appreciate any sort of advice anyone might be able to give. The only dilemma is a planting site as I don't really want to change what's already here as I planned it all to the nth degree, usually at night, sitting outside all night on fine summer nights about five or six times. I love sitting in the garden at night as it's so restful and often just couldn't drag myself away. Tt was also ideal re. planning where extra lighting was to go. Watching the sunrise was lovely, but the most delightful and magical thing of all, and the real prize, was hearing the first little chirp at about 4.30am - when it was still pretty dark but just starting to lighten in the east - and then gradually hearing the rest of the birdsong grow and grow. Whoever first called it the dawn chorus got it spot-on. Anyway, back to the damsons - does anyone know if it would be possible to grow a damson tree in a pot? I know I'd have to make sure it didn't dry out and perhaps top-dress the soil every year. I've got a huge stoneware pot I couldn't resist getting a few years ago but have never known what to grow in it - it's at least 3' high and about the same in diameter at the top then tapers down to maybe 18", so at last it would be put to good use if it would work for the tree. Any sort of sort of advice on this would be much welcomed - thank 'ee kindly. www.thompson-morgan.com/p/damson-farleigh-damson/TKA1891TM?source=google-prodex&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3vD1mbXl6QIVwww.thompson-morgan.com/p/damson-plum-merryweather/CWW3220TM?source=google-prodex&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3vD1mb
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 19:03:32 GMT
Right, then, here's a bit of a swerve - no-one's mentioned damsons yet. I'd really love to have a damson tree - been doing a bit of on-line research and fancy either a 'Farleigh Damson' or a 'Merryweather', like those in the links, although I'd appreciate any sort of advice anyone might be able to give. The only dilemma is a planting site as I don't really want to change what's already here as I planned it all to the nth degree, usually at night, sitting outside all night on fine summer nights about five or six times. I love sitting in the garden at night as it's so restful and often just couldn't drag myself away. Tt was also ideal re. planning where extra lighting was to go. Watching the sunrise was lovely, but the most delightful and magical thing of all, and the real prize, was hearing the first little chirp at about 4.30am - when it was still pretty dark but just starting to lighten in the east - and then gradually hearing the rest of the birdsong grow and grow. Whoever first called it the dawn chorus got it spot-on. Anyway, back to the damsons - does anyone know if it would be possible to grow a damson tree in a pot? I know I'd have to make sure it didn't dry out and perhaps top-dress the soil every year. I've got a huge stoneware pot I couldn't resist getting a few years ago but have never known what to grow in it - it's at least 3' high and about the same in diameter at the top then tapers down to maybe 18", so at last it would be put to good use if it would work for the tree. Any sort of sort of advice on this would be much welcomed - thank 'ee kindly. www.thompson-morgan.com/p/damson-farleigh-damson/TKA1891TM?source=google-prodex&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3vD1mbXl6QIVwww.thompson-morgan.com/p/damson-plum-merryweather/CWW3220TM?source=google-prodex&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3vD1mbLovely things. Did you want them for fruit or just for damson-reasons? For me the issue is patience, I want the fruit now... I know this is cheating but it was discussed and really brilliant on GW: (the link should take you there, but it was around 6 mins*
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 19:11:42 GMT
Right, then, here's a bit of a swerve - no-one's mentioned damsons yet. I'd really love to have a damson tree - been doing a bit of on-line research and fancy either a 'Farleigh Damson' or a 'Merryweather', like those in the links, although I'd appreciate any sort of advice anyone might be able to give. The only dilemma is a planting site as I don't really want to change what's already here as I planned it all to the nth degree, usually at night, sitting outside all night on fine summer nights about five or six times. I love sitting in the garden at night as it's so restful and often just couldn't drag myself away. Tt was also ideal re. planning where extra lighting was to go. Watching the sunrise was lovely, but the most delightful and magical thing of all, and the real prize, was hearing the first little chirp at about 4.30am - when it was still pretty dark but just starting to lighten in the east - and then gradually hearing the rest of the birdsong grow and grow. Whoever first called it the dawn chorus got it spot-on. Anyway, back to the damsons - does anyone know if it would be possible to grow a damson tree in a pot? I know I'd have to make sure it didn't dry out and perhaps top-dress the soil every year. I've got a huge stoneware pot I couldn't resist getting a few years ago but have never known what to grow in it - it's at least 3' high and about the same in diameter at the top then tapers down to maybe 18", so at last it would be put to good use if it would work for the tree. Any sort of sort of advice on this would be much welcomed - thank 'ee kindly. www.thompson-morgan.com/p/damson-farleigh-damson/TKA1891TM?source=google-prodex&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3vD1mbXl6QIVwww.thompson-morgan.com/p/damson-plum-merryweather/CWW3220TM?source=google-prodex&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3vD1mbBit of info about Damson trees for you Murph. It covers most things but does mention growing them in pots as well. Damson trees, planting & aftercarelink
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Post by slicko on Jun 3, 2020 20:03:12 GMT
Right, then, here's a bit of a swerve - no-one's mentioned damsons yet. I'd really love to have a damson tree - been doing a bit of on-line research and fancy either a 'Farleigh Damson' or a 'Merryweather', like those in the links, although I'd appreciate any sort of advice anyone might be able to give. The only dilemma is a planting site as I don't really want to change what's already here as I planned it all to the nth degree, usually at night, sitting outside all night on fine summer nights about five or six times. I love sitting in the garden at night as it's so restful and often just couldn't drag myself away. Tt was also ideal re. planning where extra lighting was to go. Watching the sunrise was lovely, but the most delightful and magical thing of all, and the real prize, was hearing the first little chirp at about 4.30am - when it was still pretty dark but just starting to lighten in the east - and then gradually hearing the rest of the birdsong grow and grow. Whoever first called it the dawn chorus got it spot-on. Anyway, back to the damsons - does anyone know if it would be possible to grow a damson tree in a pot? I know I'd have to make sure it didn't dry out and perhaps top-dress the soil every year. I've got a huge stoneware pot I couldn't resist getting a few years ago but have never known what to grow in it - it's at least 3' high and about the same in diameter at the top then tapers down to maybe 18", so at last it would be put to good use if it would work for the tree. Any sort of sort of advice on this would be much welcomed - thank 'ee kindly. www.thompson-morgan.com/p/damson-farleigh-damson/TKA1891TM?source=google-prodex&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3vD1mbXl6QIVwww.thompson-morgan.com/p/damson-plum-merryweather/CWW3220TM?source=google-prodex&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3vD1mbI’d avoid pots with fruit trees. If it were a fruit tree from a drier climate, such as an olive then that’s different, You’ll eventually get issues with watering, repotting, loss of nutrients in the soil, pots cracking in the frost. Get it in the ground my friend and let nature take care of the essentials and you can enjoy the fruit.
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 3, 2020 21:09:23 GMT
Right, then, here's a bit of a swerve - no-one's mentioned damsons yet. Lovely things. Did you want them for fruit or just for damson-reasons? For me the issue is patience, I want the fruit now... I know this is cheating but it was discussed and really brilliant on GW: (the link should take you there, but it was around 6 mins* How on earth did you find that coverage, essem??? It's FANTASTIC - THANK YOU!
I just wanted to be able to make a big sort-of open fruit flan with the damsons, with twisted lattice pastry strips across the top, like my grandmother often used to make, but you never seem to see damsons for sale anywhere. The film gives the impression that the damson trees take years (about 20 to 50! ) to start fruiting really well, so that might have put the kibosh on THAT little dream..... but thanks so much again for posting the film.
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Post by woodstein on Jun 3, 2020 21:11:33 GMT
General fruit cakes!
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 3, 2020 21:20:39 GMT
Right, then, here's a bit of a swerve - no-one's mentioned damsons yet. Bit of info about Damson trees for you Murph. It covers most things but does mention growing them in pots as well. Damson trees, planting & aftercarelink Thanks, Dees, that's amazingly helpful - I'll print it off & see what seems best. THANK YOU!
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 3, 2020 21:29:30 GMT
Right, then, here's a bit of a swerve - no-one's mentioned damsons yet. I’d avoid pots with fruit trees. If it were a fruit tree from a drier climate, such as an olive then that’s different, You’ll eventually get issues with watering, repotting, loss of nutrients in the soil, pots cracking in the frost. Get it in the ground my friend and let nature take care of the essentials and you can enjoy the fruit. Thanks, Slix, for yet another amazingly helpful post - I'm going to have to think this through carefully. THANK YOU! I must say, some of the posters in this thread sound to me as though they should be doing special guest presentation spots on Gardeners World! Applause, applause!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 20:13:31 GMT
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 8, 2020 8:42:52 GMT
Just thought a few of you (esp. Dees! ) might like this book, which was released in April 2020, perhaps for a prezzie for someone - I'm really trying hard to avoid buying it as I've already got hundreds of books, but I do quite like the look of it - it's a mixture between a gardening book and a cookbook and is described as 'A correspondence between a hopeless gardener and a hopeful cook': Rhubarb Rhubarb by Mary Jane Paterson & Jo Thompson £16.99 Hardcover Just to keep it in the local family, as it were, Jo Thompson's Wedgwood Garden won a gold medal at the 2018 Chelsea Flower Show, and if her name sounds familiar she also writes for the Sunday Times. Think I might just have a leisurely stroll now over to the 'toppling statues' thread and join in the punch-up..... BFN, xxx
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 8, 2020 8:49:16 GMT
Love the sound of your new lemon and orange tree purchases, Essem. Afraid I can't help with your query, though - the person we want on this is Bisp - he'd know. #Come back, Bisp! The campaign continues.......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 12:08:07 GMT
It's best to try and move the tree (any tree) during the dormant period in the late autumn (when the soil is still warm) and winter. This should create least stress for the plant and give it a better chance of survival. The best chance is if you can dig it up with as much root ball as you can but this isn't always possible due to the size and weight of the root ball, and also the soil may be fairly dry and fall away as you dig. Some judicious pruning is also necessary to counter balance the size of the root ball or it could well become top heavy, and also reduce the stress to the tree. Try never to move it if it's in leaf. I actually successfully moved a two year old miniature apple tree last year and it is actually fruiting at the moment. If you do manage to transplant the tree then keep it well watered throughout this year to help re-establish the root system. If it dries out or goes thirsty then it could well be curtains. These are several videos on youtube showing how to do it but this one (although American) is fairly helpful. Looking at your ebay link the owner obviously wants them moved asap so it could prove a little risky to ensure they survive. Hope this helps - good luck !
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 11, 2020 21:33:25 GMT
I discovered some what I think is yellow jelly fungus/ witches butter on my new cherry tree. It looks like "amber" or "honey" hence the google ID. I'm reassured that it's not an issue for my tree ( google) although I'm not 100% convinced, does anyone know of it have experience of it and is my detective work correct that's it's not a danger to my tree.
Ta.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 5:02:15 GMT
I discovered some what I think is yellow jelly fungus/ witches butter on my new cherry tree. It looks like "amber" or "honey" hence the google ID. I'm reassured that it's not an issue for my tree ( google) although I'm not 100% convinced, does anyone know of it have experience of it and is my detective work correct that's it's not a danger to my tree. Ta. From what little I know about yellow jelly fungus I always thought it was only found on dead but still attached branches and appears more in rainy weather. Normally if you prune out the affected parts it shouldn't be detrimental to the tree. Problem is that the fungus appears in crevices and where branches grow from the main tree trunk. From what I've been able to find online a few days after it's stopped raining the fungus should reduce to a thin film or shrivelled lump but will return when it rains again. From the attached article link"The healthy tissues of your tree aren't in any danger of being damaged by jelly fungus, but their presence indicates that your tree is rotting internally at the point where they're feeding......A few fungi aren't anything to worry about, prune away affected branches and discard the material". Maybe if there's lots of fungus you should go back to where you bought it from ? Hope this helps mate. Good luck !
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 12, 2020 7:45:21 GMT
I discovered some what I think is yellow jelly fungus/ witches butter on my new cherry tree. It looks like "amber" or "honey" hence the google ID. I'm reassured that it's not an issue for my tree ( google) although I'm not 100% convinced, does anyone know of it have experience of it and is my detective work correct that's it's not a danger to my tree. Ta. From what little I know about yellow jelly fungus I always thought it was only found on dead but still attached branches and appears more in rainy weather. Normally if you prune out the affected parts it shouldn't be detrimental to the tree. Problem is that the fungus appears in crevices and where branches grow from the main tree trunk. From what I've been able to find online a few days after it's stopped raining the fungus should reduce to a thin film or shrivelled lump but will return when it rains again. From the attached article link"The healthy tissues of your tree aren't in any danger of being damaged by jelly fungus, but their presence indicates that your tree is rotting internally at the point where they're feeding......A few fungi aren't anything to worry about, prune away affected branches and discard the material". Maybe if there's lots of fungus you should go back to where you bought it from ? Hope this helps mate. Good luck ! I read it's not too bad and that it "eats" some other invasive fungi but yep I will mention it when I go to Astbury next. On a side note apparently its edible and tasty in soup but I'm not going to try it. It's on the main trunk not any branches two small areas where it appears to have been pruned.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 16, 2020 16:05:49 GMT
Jeez these thunder storms are doing wonders for my garden its absolutely lush 🥀🌻🌼🌷
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