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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 16:56:14 GMT
I ordered a cherry tree on the internet a while ago and i was excited to see it grow. It was going well at the bottom, not so much at the top - This is when I first discovered what grafting was. Long story short the actual bit of cherry on top of my tree was already dead, so I chopped it off and used the forked tongue method of grafting in two apple cuttings into the rootstock. Anybody had any success at this? Also a shameless plug, does anybody have any fruit trees they dont want or are planning to prune back etc? Photos to follow. Also decided to follow this guy's advice for growing trees from a few of the other cuttings
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 28, 2020 18:17:57 GMT
I'm not that experienced to try that but I've been looking at a cherry tree myself. I have a red Robin which I want to replace with a cherry. Any recommendations for a small garden as far as variety of cherry might be best suited.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 20:25:37 GMT
I'm not that experienced to try that but I've been looking at a cherry tree myself. I have a red Robin which I want to replace with a cherry. Any recommendations for a small garden as far as variety of cherry might be best suited. We have several flowering cherry trees in our garden. Prunus Kojo-no-mai is ideal for a compact tree and can be grown in pots as well. ("Kanzan" is also a popular choice for small gardens.) We also have a couple of Prunus "Amanagowa" which is an upright "columnar" type, grows about 3 foot wide and 10 foot tall. If you want a fruiting cherry tree then Prunus "Sunburst" is a heavy cropper, and "Stella Compact" is a black fruiting cherry. Check out the RHS site, or even the BBC Gardeners World site for info and recommended varieties. J.Parkers online plants also offer some variations but this time of the year you might have to go for a pot grown plant rather than a bare rooted one. The pot grown ones are more expensive but can be planted all year - keep them well watered for the first year though. Always look for the root stock as this will determine the size of the tree, I think "Gisela 5" is the best for cherries for small gardens.
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 28, 2020 20:46:49 GMT
I'm not that experienced to try that but I've been looking at a cherry tree myself. I have a red Robin which I want to replace with a cherry. Any recommendations for a small garden as far as variety of cherry might be best suited. We have several flowering cherry trees in our garden. Prunus Kojo-no-mai is ideal for a compact tree and can be grown in pots as well. ("Kanzan" is also a popular choice for small gardens.) We also have a couple of Prunus "Amanagowa" which is an upright "columnar" type, grows about 3 foot wide and 10 foot tall. If you want a fruiting cherry tree then Prunus "Sunburst" is a heavy cropper, and "Stella Compact" is a black fruiting cherry. Check out the RHS site, or even the BBC Gardeners World site for info and recommended varieties. J.Parkers online plants also offer some variations but this time of the year you might have to go for a pot grown plant rather than a bare rooted one. The pot grown ones are more expensive but can be planted all year - keep them well watered for the first year though. Always look for the root stock as this will determine the size of the tree, I think "Gisela 5" is the best for cherries for small gardens. Thanks very much I was looking at a fruiting tree as they are just amazing to eat we love them. I'm looking towards autumn before I change and replace my Red Robin.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 14:00:28 GMT
I'm not that experienced to try that but I've been looking at a cherry tree myself. I have a red Robin which I want to replace with a cherry. Any recommendations for a small garden as far as variety of cherry might be best suited. We have several flowering cherry trees in our garden. Prunus Kojo-no-mai is ideal for a compact tree and can be grown in pots as well. ("Kanzan" is also a popular choice for small gardens.) We also have a couple of Prunus "Amanagowa" which is an upright "columnar" type, grows about 3 foot wide and 10 foot tall. If you want a fruiting cherry tree then Prunus "Sunburst" is a heavy cropper, and "Stella Compact" is a black fruiting cherry. Check out the RHS site, or even the BBC Gardeners World site for info and recommended varieties. J.Parkers online plants also offer some variations but this time of the year you might have to go for a pot grown plant rather than a bare rooted one. The pot grown ones are more expensive but can be planted all year - keep them well watered for the first year though. Always look for the root stock as this will determine the size of the tree, I think "Gisela 5" is the best for cherries for small gardens. Would also add - If you're buying from the internet make sure you dont go for bare rooted where possible*
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Post by murphthesurf on Apr 29, 2020 22:07:00 GMT
We have several flowering cherry trees in our garden. Prunus Kojo-no-mai is ideal for a compact tree and can be grown in pots as well. Thanks very much I was looking at a fruiting tree as they are just amazing to eat we love them. I'm looking towards autumn before I change and replace my Red Robin. If you love fruit, just to veer away from fruit trees for a mo, François, do you grow rhubarb? I grow lots of herbs + I have about 6 rhubarb plants which, I have to say, look after themselves, but even so they get huge. If you get some rhubarb plants and plant them you then have to leave them alone for the first 12-18 months to let them get established before you can cut them. Bisp told me those pointers before I bought them and he was a real gardening expert on the Oatie and we miss him an awful lot. Come back Bisp!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 22:32:39 GMT
Thanks very much I was looking at a fruiting tree as they are just amazing to eat we love them. I'm looking towards autumn before I change and replace my Red Robin. If you love fruit, just to veer away from fruit trees for a mo, François, do you grow rhubarb? I grow lots of herbs + I have about 6 rhubarb plants which, I have to say, look after themselves, but even so they get huge. If you get some rhubarb plants and plant them you then have to leave them alone for the first 12-18 months to let them get established before you can cut them. Bisp told me those pointers before I bought them and he was a real gardening expert on the Oatie and we miss him an awful lot. Come back Bisp! Title now amended to take in further fruits.* Are they easy to keep in check or do they get a bit wild and take up a lot of space? Rhubarb is ace - I haven't had it for years.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2020 5:25:46 GMT
If you love fruit, just to veer away from fruit trees for a mo, François, do you grow rhubarb? I grow lots of herbs + I have about 6 rhubarb plants which, I have to say, look after themselves, but even so they get huge. If you get some rhubarb plants and plant them you then have to leave them alone for the first 12-18 months to let them get established before you can cut them. Bisp told me those pointers before I bought them and he was a real gardening expert on the Oatie and we miss him an awful lot. Come back Bisp! Title now amended to take in further fruits.* Are they easy to keep in check or do they get a bit wild and take up a lot of space? Rhubarb is ace - I haven't had it for years. Fruit trees can get a little unruly if left unchecked. The main aims are strong stems and an open framework to allow air to circulate to reduce disease, which in turn will promote plentiful fruit growth. As previously mentioned the root stock will determine the basic size and vigour of a fruit tree, and then it's the annual pruning which will keep it in a manageable size and shape. My dear old dad showed me how and when to prune fruit trees, but the following item is fairly good and explains how to do it. linkThe video shows how to prune young fruit trees to "get them started".
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 30, 2020 7:22:30 GMT
Thanks very much I was looking at a fruiting tree as they are just amazing to eat we love them. I'm looking towards autumn before I change and replace my Red Robin. If you love fruit, just to veer away from fruit trees for a mo, François, do you grow rhubarb? I grow lots of herbs + I have about 6 rhubarb plants which, I have to say, look after themselves, but even so they get huge. If you get some rhubarb plants and plant them you then have to leave them alone for the first 12-18 months to let them get established before you can cut them. Bisp told me those pointers before I bought them and he was a real gardening expert on the Oatie and we miss him an awful lot. Come back Bisp! The one thing I dont like sorry!! I've grown lots of fruit and veg and I had raspberries for a long time but it's another thug so it had to go eventually. I've decided to add trees so I can still grow flowers. I planted a crabapple tree a year or so ago and its brilliant does not take up much space so perfect for my small garden.
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Post by raythesailor on May 1, 2020 8:50:49 GMT
Slightly off topic but; During Lockdown boredom I planted 3 seeds from the bird feeder two weeks ago in a pot.
After only 4 days on a sunny window ledge I had sprouts coming up! I am totally amazed how quick this has happened. Never grown a thing before.
I don’t have a clue what they are but have already had to re pot them . 😀⚓️
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Post by partickpotter on May 1, 2020 8:54:24 GMT
Slightly off topic but; During Lockdown boredom I planted 3 seeds from the bird feeder two weeks ago in a pot. After only 4 days on a sunny window ledge I had sprouts coming up! I am totally amazed how quick this has happened. Never grown a thing before. I don’t have a clue what they are but have already had to re pot them . 😀⚓️ If you’re lucky they may look a bit like this...
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Post by franklin66 on May 1, 2020 9:28:22 GMT
Slightly off topic but; During Lockdown boredom I planted 3 seeds from the bird feeder two weeks ago in a pot. After only 4 days on a sunny window ledge I had sprouts coming up! I am totally amazed how quick this has happened. Never grown a thing before. I don’t have a clue what they are but have already had to re pot them . 😀⚓️ If your interested there is an app called plantsnap that identifies plants by you taking a pic and it compares and comes up with what they think it is. Quite accurate I've tried it to distinguish what pops up in my garden.
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Post by thequietman on May 1, 2020 11:14:16 GMT
Slightly off topic but; During Lockdown boredom I planted 3 seeds from the bird feeder two weeks ago in a pot. After only 4 days on a sunny window ledge I had sprouts coming up! I am totally amazed how quick this has happened. Never grown a thing before. I don’t have a clue what they are but have already had to re pot them . 😀⚓️ You put sprouts in your bird feeder, Ray? That's just evil. What have the poor little feathered blighters done to upset you?
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Post by raythesailor on May 1, 2020 11:55:59 GMT
Slightly off topic but; During Lockdown boredom I planted 3 seeds from the bird feeder two weeks ago in a pot. After only 4 days on a sunny window ledge I had sprouts coming up! I am totally amazed how quick this has happened. Never grown a thing before. I don’t have a clue what they are but have already had to re pot them . 😀⚓️ You put sprouts in your bird feeder, Ray? That's just evil. What have the poor little feathered blighters done to upset you? Well spotted. Should have said shoots sprouting 😀⚓️
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Post by murphthesurf on May 1, 2020 12:12:45 GMT
Slightly off topic but; During Lockdown boredom I planted 3 seeds from the bird feeder two weeks ago in a pot. After only 4 days on a sunny window ledge I had sprouts coming up! I am totally amazed how quick this has happened. Never grown a thing before. I don’t have a clue what they are but have already had to re pot them . 😀⚓️ You put sprouts in your bird feeder, Ray? That's just evil. What have the poor little feathered blighters done to upset you? You swine, JD! (Bit of a change - it's usually only Fel who gets that particular greeting..... 'ow do, Fel ) Only just this second logged in & seen Raymondo's post & was immediately going to say 'Well if you put them on to boil about mid-October, Raymondo, they'll be ready on time for Xmas lunch.' Shan't bother now.
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Post by bathstoke on May 1, 2020 17:14:05 GMT
Well if nobody else is going to do it... 🌳
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 1, 2020 17:36:32 GMT
Just about to do the same, Bath!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 18:06:42 GMT
Well if nobody else is going to do it... 🌳 Unquestionably valid under the title restructuring.
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Post by franklin66 on May 13, 2020 11:47:32 GMT
Well on the first day of garden centres opening I've been up to Astbury and got a smashing cherry tree. I went for a Sunburst on Gisela root stock its about 4foot atm and in a large pot. Just got to get the red robin up now and plant it. So nice to walk around in the sun shopping for plants.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 12:07:35 GMT
Well on the first day of garden centres opening I've been up to Astbury and got a smashing cherry tree. I went for a Sunburst on Gisela root stock its about 4foot atm and in a large pot. Just got to get the red robin up now and plant it. So nice to walk around in the sun shopping for plants. Was it busy when you were there ? Me and the missus are planning on venturing out to our local garden centre tomorrow as we have a few plants that need replacing. I'm also looking to buy a small pear tree if possible so I suppose it depends how much stock they have.
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Post by franklin66 on May 13, 2020 12:23:22 GMT
Well on the first day of garden centres opening I've been up to Astbury and got a smashing cherry tree. I went for a Sunburst on Gisela root stock its about 4foot atm and in a large pot. Just got to get the red robin up now and plant it. So nice to walk around in the sun shopping for plants. Was it busy when you were there ? Me and the missus are planning on venturing out to our local garden centre tomorrow as we have a few plants that need replacing. I'm also looking to buy a small pear tree if possible so I suppose it depends how much stock they have. No mate it was quiet they have a one way system and it's all open bar the cafe. There was not the normal stock selection we normally see there but it had what we wanted. A few alpines for my pots plenty of compost and the tree.
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Post by raythesailor on May 13, 2020 15:04:00 GMT
Any tips on growing Tomatoes?
Next door has recently given me two plants. Planning to repot tomorrow.
My dad must be rolling around with laughter up there. He was a Gardner. 😀⚓️
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Post by franklin66 on May 13, 2020 16:00:24 GMT
Any tips on growing Tomatoes? Next door has recently given me two plants. Planning to repot tomorrow. My dad must be rolling around with laughter up there. He was a Gardner. 😀⚓️ I was very successful at growing cherry tomatoes outside!!!! I grew from seeds on my kitchen window inside then straight out at about 5 inch seedlings. Plenty of space (a good foot) and fed them a tomato feed once a week. I staked them all individually and I had very good crops. Once the fruit begins to show pinch the tops out and keep an eye out for small shoots at the base of the main side shoots and pinch them out too. Also take some of the foliage away to aid ventilation and watch them grow. That's how I did it but it's not the correct way but it worked for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 17:43:49 GMT
I grow cherry (Gardener's Delight or Ildi) and normal size cordon tomatoes (Shirley and Moneymaker) in my greenhouse, and grow some trailing (tumbling) cherry tomatoes (Tumbling Tom or Balconi Red/Yellow) outside in hanging baskets. I start them off in March from seed and prick them out into individual pots when the second set of leaves appears on the seedlings. They grow pretty quickly and at the end of April (usually) I plant the cordon tomatoes into a grow bag in the greenhouse (3 plants per bag) and stake them individually, and plant the tumbling ones into a hanging basket. I normally plant the roots at least one inch below the surface of the compost to encourage stronger growth. I don't feed them at all until the flowers first appear. As Franklin says pinch the tops out when the fruit starts to appear and make sure you regularly check them to pinch out the small shoots at the base of the main side shoots as these take energy away from the fruit. Water them regularly and consistently and don't over water them but also don't let the compost dry out. Forget to water them and they'll suffer greatly and probably die, but giving them a large amount of water every few days will usually lead to the fruit splitting. Give them the same amount of water at around the same time every day. When the flowers appear, and then the fruits start to swell, feed them twice weekly. Keep the plants well ventilated and remove some of the leaves to improve airflow and help the fruits to ripen. I also grow some marigolds and Basil in pots and place them by the tomato plants as their aromas help to keep white fly and other pests away from the plants. I normally have more than enough tomatoes and usually end up giving bags of them to neighbours. BBC Gardener's World website and the Thompson and Morgan website also has some useful tips. linklink
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Post by questionable on May 13, 2020 21:38:38 GMT
I have a well established olive tree in the rear garden, every year I get lots of tiny olives which never come to fruition.
I’ve always thought that the birds eat them, could be wrong.
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Post by spiderpuss on May 13, 2020 21:40:41 GMT
Why do I suddenly expect Paul Whitehouse to suddenly appear in that video?
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Post by franklin66 on May 14, 2020 9:23:45 GMT
Red Robin dug up compost to improve the soil Sunburst cherry in now having a cuppa in the sun admiring my new tree 👌
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Post by Northy on May 14, 2020 9:49:49 GMT
Like most things that other people have, dogs, cats, I dislike Cherry trees, my neighbour inherited one when she moved in many years ago, but the idiot who planted it put it right next to the fence (along with a now very large twisted willow), which over the years has pushed the concrete fence posts and panels over, leaning into our garden, then we get all the fooking petals covering our garden for a couple of weeks, as it's too big I also get them in the guttering etc. bocking them, it blocks up the little water feature pump we have and I have to clear that out after as well. rant over ... for now
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Post by yeokel on May 14, 2020 9:55:39 GMT
I have a well established olive tree in the rear garden, every year I get lots of tiny olives which never come to fruition. I’ve always thought that the birds eat them, could be wrong. We’ve got a small olive tree too. It has produced a couple of olives in the past few years, although they were only tiny things – about the size of a small pea. I made the mistake of tasting one once – will never do it again though. It was probably the bitterest thing ever experienced – If you can imagine a gaggle of Momo, Huddy, Essex, Bayern and Bath sitting together discussing the December 2019 election result, it was even bitterer than that!
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Post by murphthesurf on May 14, 2020 10:49:54 GMT
I have a well established olive tree in the rear garden, every year I get lots of tiny olives which never come to fruition. I’ve always thought that the birds eat them, could be wrong. We’ve got a small olive tree too. It has produced a couple of olives in the past few years, although they were only tiny things – about the size of a small pea. I made the mistake of tasting one once – will never do it again though. It was probably the bitterest thing ever experienced – If you can imagine a gaggle of Momo, Huddy, Essex, Bayern and Bath sitting together discussing the December 2019 election result, it was even bitterer than that! Take a bow, Yoky! If that last bit isn't the QUOTE OF THE YEAR on this MB I don't know what is!
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