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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 22, 2020 15:02:03 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 22, 2020 15:11:02 GMT
So sorry to hear this. My grandad played for them! |
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Post by StaffordPotter on Apr 22, 2020 15:38:44 GMT
Gotta feel for all those involved. Very sad indeed.
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Post by ab61 on Apr 22, 2020 15:44:26 GMT
Very sad. Didn’t they once beat us in a pre season friendly a few years back ?
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Post by lordb on Apr 22, 2020 16:02:49 GMT
Very sad. Didn’t they once beat us in a pre season friendly a few years back ? thrashed us 4.1 week before season cue melt down on here we then won 1st proper game at Derby 3.1 never ever take any notice of friendlies whatsoever |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 22, 2020 16:36:36 GMT
I guess a lot will depend on who owns their grounds for clubs at this level?
The majority will be able to offload players pretty easily and keep costs way down but the ground rent will be the big one.
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Post by RF10 on Apr 22, 2020 16:57:51 GMT
The bubble is beginning to burst. The lower down you are more you will suffer though. Great shame.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 22, 2020 17:12:03 GMT
I guess a lot will depend on who owns their grounds for clubs at this level? The majority will be able to offload players pretty easily and keep costs way down but the ground rent will be the big one. The story suggests that the owners of the ground have been unwilling to reach any significant agreement with the club to ease their immediate plight.  I hope if the owner sees this as a chance to make a few £million by selling the ground for development, he is disappointed. |
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Post by staffordpotter78 on Apr 22, 2020 19:40:32 GMT
It's a massive shame for Rhyl, a genuinely big Welsh club who I believe after Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham have the largest following in Wales. I expect they'll resurrect themselves and start from the bottom again, perhaps by even re-entering the English pyramid system as opposed to the League of Wales. The main reason they're in this predicament is because of the landlord refusing to sell the ground and won't give then linger than a rolling one year lease as tenants, so with so much uncertainty they've been unable to progress with investors who wanted to takeover the club.
The landlord has refused to even respond to any contact from the club for months with regards trying to strike a deal, the issue he has if he decides he wants to build houses on the site of the ground is that there was caveat from the council when he purchased the ground years ago that it can only be used for sporting events, so he's equally as screwed as the ground will now lie dormant
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 22, 2020 19:54:49 GMT
I guess a lot will depend on who owns their grounds for clubs at this level? The majority will be able to offload players pretty easily and keep costs way down but the ground rent will be the big one. Stadiums are a huge issue at that level. My own home town of Northwich being a case in point. Football needs a serious look at how they can better protect these clubs. Football is diminished when we lose the likes of Rhyl. |
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Post by lordb on Apr 22, 2020 20:31:36 GMT
It's a massive shame for Rhyl, a genuinely big Welsh club who I believe after Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham have the largest following in Wales. I expect they'll resurrect themselves and start from the bottom again, perhaps by even re-entering the English pyramid system as opposed to the League of Wales. The main reason they're in this predicament is because of the landlord refusing to sell the ground and won't give then linger than a rolling one year lease as tenants, so with so much uncertainty they've been unable to progress with investors who wanted to takeover the club. The landlord has refused to even respond to any contact from the club for months with regards trying to strike a deal, the issue he has if he decides he wants to build houses on the site of the ground is that there was caveat from the council when he purchased the ground years ago that it can only be used for sporting events, so he's equally as screwed as the ground will now lie dormant Good info I think Newport have more fans for sure Merthyr Tydfil used to get a reasonable following Bangor potentially. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 22, 2020 20:34:01 GMT
I guess a lot will depend on who owns their grounds for clubs at this level? The majority will be able to offload players pretty easily and keep costs way down but the ground rent will be the big one. The story suggests that the owners of the ground have been unwilling to reach any significant agreement with the club to ease their immediate plight. I hope if the owner sees this as a chance to make a few £million by selling the ground for development, he is disappointed. A few £M - have you been to Rhyl recently? |
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 22, 2020 20:38:54 GMT
The story suggests that the owners of the ground have been unwilling to reach any significant agreement with the club to ease their immediate plight. I hope if the owner sees this as a chance to make a few £million by selling the ground for development, he is disappointed. A few £M - have you been to Rhyl recently? Hope they’ve still got the wave machine. |
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 22, 2020 20:45:29 GMT
A few £M - have you been to Rhyl recently? Hope they’ve still got the wave machine. Ahhhh. Rhyl Sun Centre. Remember it well. I think it’s gone now. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 22, 2020 21:08:02 GMT
A few £M - have you been to Rhyl recently? Hope they’ve still got the wave machine. They reopened it last year - I take back everything I said! |
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 23, 2020 11:46:55 GMT
Rhyl in Champions League, season 2004-2005! *edit.
The only thing I remember about the place was all the jellyfish in the beach sand.
*And in 2009-2010. Played Partizan Belgrade. Thats 2 more Champions League ties than Stoke have achieved!
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Post by BristolMick on Apr 23, 2020 13:17:40 GMT
Rhyl will be the first of many. Maybe football does need a reset but my fear is we will be left with an American style closed shop super league system with maybe only 30 odd clubs owned by the super rich.
BM
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Post by Northy on Apr 24, 2020 8:36:32 GMT
Such a shame, unfortunately the first of many
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Post by thestatusquo on Apr 24, 2020 9:58:55 GMT
Didn’t vale sign Andy Jones from Rhyl?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 24, 2020 10:42:06 GMT
Big shame.
Wont they be able to rise from the ashes though in the future? Maybe a chance for a new org structure in future similar to Germany. Give 51% to fans at the start up with a low investment needed. It seems they only needed 175k to continue operating.
I would like the government to seriously look into fan ownership given the current economic problems. It would also stop idiot Premier League players claiming they dont want to deduct wages to make the owner richer. When fans are the owners you will get different responses from players - look at the Bundesliga and how many teams have negotiated a serious wage reduction with no problems.
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Post by Northy on Apr 24, 2020 13:24:34 GMT
I guess a lot will depend on who owns their grounds for clubs at this level? The majority will be able to offload players pretty easily and keep costs way down but the ground rent will be the big one. Stadiums are a huge issue at that level. My own home town of Northwich being a case in point. Football needs a serious look at how they can better protect these clubs. Football is diminished when we lose the likes of Rhyl. which part of Northwich did you grow up in, have you been back lately ? |
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Post by Pedropotter on Apr 24, 2020 13:29:00 GMT
Londons a shit hole, I'd rather go Rhyl.
Sad day.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 24, 2020 13:31:36 GMT
Big shame. Wont they be able to rise from the ashes though in the future? Maybe a chance for a new org structure in future similar to Germany. Give 51% to fans at the start up with a low investment needed. It seems they only needed 175k to continue operating. I would like the government to seriously look into fan ownership given the current economic problems. It would also stop idiot Premier League players claiming they dont want to deduct wages to make the owner richer. When fans are the owners you will get different responses from players - look at the Bundesliga and how many teams have negotiated a serious wage reduction with no problems. What did they need 175k for? |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 24, 2020 13:35:34 GMT
Big shame. Wont they be able to rise from the ashes though in the future? Maybe a chance for a new org structure in future similar to Germany. Give 51% to fans at the start up with a low investment needed. It seems they only needed 175k to continue operating. I would like the government to seriously look into fan ownership given the current economic problems. It would also stop idiot Premier League players claiming they dont want to deduct wages to make the owner richer. When fans are the owners you will get different responses from players - look at the Bundesliga and how many teams have negotiated a serious wage reduction with no problems. What did they need 175k for? It said on the article thats what they needed. Not a huge amount in normal football terms. Looking to buy a club Bayern? You can test your management theories out in the Welsh league  Lets all chip in and rename them Stoke-on-Rhyl |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 24, 2020 13:50:50 GMT
What did they need 175k for? It said on the article thats what they needed. Not a huge amount in normal football terms. Looking to buy a club Bayern? You can test your management theories out in the Welsh league Lets all chip in and rename them Stoke-on-Rhyl It just seems a lot to me unless they're looking to buy the ground? I guess it depends what contracts the players have. And a lot of semi pro clubs will be ok with that I would have thought, not many are contracted are they? If it comes with a caravan by the sea I'm there..... |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 24, 2020 15:32:08 GMT
It said on the article thats what they needed. Not a huge amount in normal football terms. Looking to buy a club Bayern? You can test your management theories out in the Welsh league Lets all chip in and rename them Stoke-on-Rhyl It just seems a lot to me unless they're looking to buy the ground? I guess it depends what contracts the players have. And a lot of semi pro clubs will be ok with that I would have thought, not many are contracted are they? If it comes with a caravan by the sea I'm there..... haha yeah it comes with a 2nd holiday home. Ill stick in 10 grand if I get a place on the subs bench and a stick of rock |
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Post by spiderpuss on Apr 24, 2020 16:46:25 GMT
Quick question though, why does a tiny, amateur club need 175K? Seems a very large amount.
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 24, 2020 20:30:42 GMT
Couldn't Stoke chip in and buy Rhyl as a sort of feeder club. We could have a huge number of home grown players to develop. Not actually Stoke born, but certainly conceived by Stokies on their annual holiday by the sea!  |
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 24, 2020 20:39:30 GMT
Didn’t that twat Andy Jones play for them before he went vale
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Post by nott1 on Apr 25, 2020 6:25:24 GMT
Couldn't Stoke chip in and buy Rhyl as a sort of feeder club. We could have a huge number of home grown players to develop. Not actually Stoke born, but certainly conceived by Stokies on their annual holiday by the sea! Have you seen the local women? |
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I hope if the owner sees this as a chance to make a few £million by selling the ground for development, he is disappointed.
