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Post by chigstoke on Apr 22, 2020 10:12:25 GMT
It will be interesting to hear what chants opposition fans come up with 'Yer getting sacked in the morning' could be about to take an entirely different meaning.
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 22, 2020 13:25:55 GMT
Steve Bruce has been summoned to the Saudi embassy to discuss his future How’s the bacon did you say? That's a public decapitation
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2020 13:45:53 GMT
It will be interesting to hear what chants opposition fans come up with "...and you'll never walk again..." "He's here, he's there, he's every fucking where, Jamal Khashoggi... "* * the second one I wasn't sure about posting. It's absolutely NOT a joke what those bastards did to that poor guy. But people shouldn't forget.
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 22, 2020 14:19:18 GMT
It will be interesting to hear what chants opposition fans come up with "...and you'll never walk again..." "He's here, he's there, he's every fucking where, Jamal Khashoggi... "* * the second one I wasn't sure about posting. It's absolutely NOT a joke what those bastards did to that poor guy. But people shouldn't forget. It's not funny but I think stuff like that is inevitable
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Post by ibby on Apr 22, 2020 15:32:29 GMT
Time will tell if it gets done.
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Post by lordb on Apr 22, 2020 16:05:31 GMT
Saudi Arabia is a state fully endorsed by successive UK govts
what does that make the UK?
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Post by lordb on Apr 22, 2020 16:08:50 GMT
from football point of view no matter how much money they ave Newcastle will struggle to attract top quality foreign players because it's so far from London, Manc clubs still have an issue with that what they will gate is Arnoutivic types, second tier players with dodgy attitude
what a club like Newcastle needs is sensible investment & sound club structure built on football, going for up & coming young players, that could work. as it is if they are lucky they will be like Everton spending lots on not very much with no actual success
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Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 22, 2020 16:16:33 GMT
Saudi Arabia is a state fully endorsed by successive UK govts what does that make the UK? Open for business
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 22, 2020 16:33:01 GMT
from football point of view no matter how much money they ave Newcastle will struggle to attract top quality foreign players because it's so far from London, Manc clubs still have an issue with that what they will gate is Arnoutivic types, second tier players with dodgy attitude what a club like Newcastle needs is sensible investment & sound club structure built on football, going for up & coming young players, that could work. as it is if they are lucky they will be like Everton spending lots on not very much with no actual success Bollocks. Money talks and if they offer people double wages they will go. The thing what will stop them is FFP.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2020 20:34:40 GMT
Saudi Arabia is a state fully endorsed by successive UK govts what does that make the UK? Yeah, that's the reality. While the world runs on oil we need them more than we need our scruples and our conscience.
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Post by shakermaker on Apr 22, 2020 20:52:53 GMT
The Saudi regime executed 37 people on the same day in recent years. Should keep minds focussed at training at least. Worth considering that some of these executions are murderers and rapists, who absolutely deserve to lose their heads. Imagine how much burglary cases would plummet in this country when there's a risk of losing your hands if convicted.
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Post by lordb on Apr 22, 2020 21:24:14 GMT
from football point of view no matter how much money they ave Newcastle will struggle to attract top quality foreign players because it's so far from London, Manc clubs still have an issue with that what they will gate is Arnoutivic types, second tier players with dodgy attitude what a club like Newcastle needs is sensible investment & sound club structure built on football, going for up & coming young players, that could work. as it is if they are lucky they will be like Everton spending lots on not very much with no actual success Bollocks. Money talks and if they offer people double wages they will go. The thing what will stop them is FFP. So why don't the top players go to China?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 22, 2020 22:11:50 GMT
The Saudi regime executed 37 people on the same day in recent years. Should keep minds focussed at training at least. Worth considering that some of these executions are murderers and rapists, who absolutely deserve to lose their heads. Imagine how much burglary cases would plummet in this country when there's a risk of losing your hands if convicted. How do you know they were? This is a country that tortures political opponents into confessions then executes them
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 22, 2020 22:14:20 GMT
People can criticise our owners accruing wealth from online gaming, but that is nothing compared to the saudi's.
Any principled Newcastle fan should walk away. I would if it happened to stoke.
When this happens they aren't Newcastle United anymore.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 22, 2020 22:20:40 GMT
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 25, 2020 14:10:00 GMT
Bollocks. Money talks and if they offer people double wages they will go. The thing what will stop them is FFP. So why don't the top players go to China? They did.. Until there government and league put caps on it. Ask the likes of witsel, oscar, arnie, ramires etc why they went.
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Post by RF10 on Apr 25, 2020 14:55:38 GMT
So why don't the top players go to China? They did.. Until there government and league put caps on it. Ask the likes of witsel, oscar, arnie, ramires etc why they went. I wouldn't put any of them as top players.
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 25, 2020 15:34:47 GMT
They did.. Until there government and league put caps on it. Ask the likes of witsel, oscar, arnie, ramires etc why they went. I wouldn't put any of them as top players. I would. Hulk and carrasco were in prime when they went so were lavezzi and hamsik. They're hardly going for the league are they? Money talks in the world and if someone offers you stupid money no matter what job you have, you take it.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 25, 2020 18:48:57 GMT
The Saudi regime executed 37 people on the same day in recent years. Should keep minds focussed at training at least. Worth considering that some of these executions are murderers and rapists, who absolutely deserve to lose their heads. Imagine how much burglary cases would plummet in this country when there's a risk of losing your hands if convicted. You going to swing the axe?
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Post by RF10 on Apr 25, 2020 19:18:45 GMT
I wouldn't put any of them as top players. I would. Hulk and carrasco were in prime when they went so were lavezzi and hamsik. They're hardly going for the league are they? Money talks in the world and if someone offers you stupid money no matter what job you have, you take it. Oh yeah there's no debate about that, they all went for the money. But I suppose it's only what the Premier League have done for years and why so many money grabbing players. When I say top players I'm talking within 20 best players.
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Post by lordb on Apr 25, 2020 20:04:26 GMT
So why don't the top players go to China? They did.. Until there government and league put caps on it. Ask the likes of witsel, oscar, arnie, ramires etc why they went. None of those were top players.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 26, 2020 8:34:11 GMT
I remember the last time as we were driving up there for the Cup match🤔
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 27, 2020 4:23:02 GMT
Keegan again? Is that bollox?
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 27, 2020 4:54:52 GMT
Keegan again? Is that bollox? I hope not
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 5:09:42 GMT
Keegan again? Is that bollox? I hope not I like Kevin Keegan, seems a decent fella and the way he handled himself with our statue of course after that greedy bollox Geoff Hurst was told where to go. Been out of football so long but would cause mass excitement for Newcastle fans. They need something to cheer about to be fair although Bruce done a good job with an average bunch
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Apr 27, 2020 5:16:54 GMT
I like Kevin Keegan, seems a decent fella and the way he handled himself with our statue of course after that greedy bollox Geoff Hurst was told where to go. Been out of football so long but would cause mass excitement for Newcastle fans. They need something to cheer about to be fair although Bruce done a good job with an average bunch Lorry load of trouble could beheading his way if he accepts that job...
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 27, 2020 7:17:53 GMT
I like Kevin Keegan, seems a decent fella and the way he handled himself with our statue of course after that greedy bollox Geoff Hurst was told where to go. Been out of football so long but would cause mass excitement for Newcastle fans. They need something to cheer about to be fair although Bruce done a good job with an average bunch Was it deffo Hurst? I've always suspected it but never known for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 8:21:39 GMT
I like Kevin Keegan, seems a decent fella and the way he handled himself with our statue of course after that greedy bollox Geoff Hurst was told where to go. Been out of football so long but would cause mass excitement for Newcastle fans. They need something to cheer about to be fair although Bruce done a good job with an average bunch Was it deffo Hurst? I've always suspected it but never known for sure. 100% yes. He charged McDs a fortune to do a charity appearance around the same time.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 27, 2020 8:25:14 GMT
I like Kevin Keegan, seems a decent fella and the way he handled himself with our statue of course after that greedy bollox Geoff Hurst was told where to go. Been out of football so long but would cause mass excitement for Newcastle fans. They need something to cheer about to be fair although Bruce done a good job with an average bunch Agree. Bruce has done well in the face of some blunt hostility.
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 28, 2020 20:04:20 GMT
Interesting stuff....at least this should be interesting if not swept under the carpet.
This takeover clear is against existing rules.
The fiancee of Jamal Khashoggi has called on the Premier League to stop the acquisition of Newcastle United by Saudi Arabia, saying that completion of the deal would tarnish English football and make it complicit in the “cover-up” of the journalist’s murder by the kingdom.
In a letter sent by her solicitors, Hatice Cengiz also challenged whether the £300m takeover of a majority stake in Newcastle by Saudi’s Public Investment Fund (PIF), which is controlled by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, was compatible with the Premier League’s charter. The charter prohibits a club from being controlled by an individual who has engaged in conduct that would be “an offence” if it had occurred in the UK.
Cengiz’s lawyer, Rodney Dixon QC, said: “The proposed acquisition is not just ‘business’ for the crown prince and the Saudi authorities, but an attempt to evade justice and international scrutiny for an unconscionable act. It would emasculate the Premier League’s core principles and rules, and ruin its good reputation and character, to allow the crown prince and the Saudi authorities to use this acquisition to seek to repair their international standing.”
The Premier League declined a request for comment.
Khashoggi, a US-based journalist for the Washington Post, was murdered inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul in October 2018. Khashoggi had entered the consulate to retrieve documents he needed to marry Cengiz, who has emerged as a strong voice in support of justice after his murder.
An investigation by Agnès Callamard, the UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial killings, found that Saudi Arabia was responsible under human rights law for the murder of Khashoggi and that it was “inconceivable” the operation that resulted in his death could not have been implemented without the crown prince being aware a criminal mission was being launched against the journalist.
In the letter to the Premier League chief executive, Richard Masters, Dixon said there were “no limits” to the exploits of Bin Salman and his government. He cited a Guardian report that revealed UK authorities had been warned by intelligence agencies that Saudi Arabia planned to target and surveil Cengiz in London months after the murder of Khashoggi.
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