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Post by felonious on May 11, 2022 7:11:27 GMT
I see the Daily Mail has finally dropped its campaign to try to drag Starmer down to the same level as Johnson and Sunak. 12 days of front pages was it? Don't they know there's a war on! Like the other Tory papers, notably the Telegraph, they now appear to be launching a campaign against home-working. I don't really get this since most people want the choice, enjoy the better work-life balance and it's an effective way of cutting GHG emissions and reducing commuting costs at a time when people are strapped. Home working is bad for people with no social lives, I thought you'd be in favour  |
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Post by followyoudown on May 11, 2022 7:12:31 GMT
Thanks for that. The nausea it induces has not lessened with time. Without being pedantic that post as it shows starts with a tweet, your claim was both starting and posts plural but yeah I typed it once it seems. |
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Post by followyoudown on May 11, 2022 7:24:39 GMT
I see the Daily Mail has finally dropped its campaign to try to drag Starmer down to the same level as Johnson and Sunak. 12 days of front pages was it? Don't they know there's a war on! Like the other Tory papers, notably the Telegraph, they now appear to be launching a campaign against home-working. I don't really get this since most people want the choice, enjoy the better work-life balance and it's an effective way of cutting GHG emissions and reducing commuting costs at a time when people are strapped. He's put himself into that position himself, not the media. Home working is bad IMO, good for the individuals but bad for a lot of other things, local shops, transport companies, councils etc etc etc Longer term a bigger problem with home working is once companies decide they dont need offices for staff they will soon follow that they dont need so many staff in the UK and employ them elsewhere where they can pay less. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 11, 2022 7:48:06 GMT
The option to work from home is great as long as there's a requirement to go to the office occasionally. I think that is the sensible position that most employers are taking, in contrast to the government and Tory Press. This campaign that the Tory Press seems to want to run to paint it as the root of all evil, when it obviously isn't, smacks to me of simply doing the government's business for them (what difference does it make to the Press?) and on behalf of wealthy landlords being concerned about their city centre rental returns. I get that local city and town centre businesses need the business, but how about we plan smaller towns and villages so that they provide 90% of the daily/weekly needs for local people so that people don't have to drive everywhere constantly. They can walk or cycle and wfh, vastly reducing the amount of pollution, at the same time as cutting their own costs and stress, seems like a win all round. Anyway, bit of a digression from Starmer! |
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Post by partickpotter on May 11, 2022 7:49:54 GMT
He's put himself into that position himself, not the media. Home working is bad IMO, good for the individuals but bad for a lot of other things, local shops, transport companies, councils etc etc etc Longer term a bigger problem with home working is once companies decide they dont need offices for staff they will soon follow that they dont need so many staff in the UK and employ them elsewhere where they can pay less. It’s a complex topic. Interesting that redwhinenblue seems to be advocating a laissez-faire free market approach. Anyway, this topic probably deserves a thread of its own. I’ll kick one off. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 11, 2022 7:50:03 GMT
I see the Daily Mail has finally dropped its campaign to try to drag Starmer down to the same level as Johnson and Sunak. 12 days of front pages was it? Don't they know there's a war on! Like the other Tory papers, notably the Telegraph, they now appear to be launching a campaign against home-working. I don't really get this since most people want the choice, enjoy the better work-life balance and it's an effective way of cutting GHG emissions and reducing commuting costs at a time when people are strapped. Home working is bad for people with no social lives, I thought you'd be in favour I would've thought home-working would be ideal for people with no social lives? Good try but not sure you've thought that one through, fel  |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 11, 2022 7:51:22 GMT
The ones advocating a return to the office are the ones with vested interests in the buildings.
Fuck em off.
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Post by foster on May 11, 2022 7:53:59 GMT
Longer term a bigger problem with home working is once companies decide they dont need offices for staff they will soon follow that they dont need so many staff in the UK and employ them elsewhere where they can pay less. It’s a complex topic. Interesting that redwhinenblue seems to be advocating a laissez-faire free market approach. Anyway, this topic probably deserves a thread of its own. I’ll kick one off. Shit bin! |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 11, 2022 7:54:40 GMT
The ones advocating a return to the office are the ones with vested interests in the buildings. Fuck em off. I would not be at all surprised to find that this underpins much of the co-ordinated government/Tory Press campaign. Commuting seems largely pointless in the modern technological world and its reduction would be a great (and easy) way to help tackle climate change - the campaign against homeworking does rather undermine the government's position on environmental issues. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 11, 2022 7:58:46 GMT
He's put himself into that position himself, not the media. Home working is bad IMO, good for the individuals but bad for a lot of other things, local shops, transport companies, councils etc etc etc Longer term a bigger problem with home working is once companies decide they dont need offices for staff they will soon follow that they dont need so many staff in the UK and employ them elsewhere where they can pay less. Not really mate, it's impacting on their precious profits. |
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Post by followyoudown on May 11, 2022 10:40:15 GMT
Honesty and Integrity
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 11, 2022 11:19:13 GMT
Thanks for that. The nausea it induces has not lessened with time. Without being pedantic that post as it shows starts with a tweet, your claim was both starting and posts plural but yeah I typed it once it seems. Any thoughts on when you decided Dom was not really a person of honesty and integrity? |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 11, 2022 11:30:59 GMT
Is accepting the result of the original referendum really that different to asking for a second referendum on a deal negotiated by the Prime Minister so that people can consider the implications? Seems quite sensible, and all the damage that has now resulted to NI, farmers, fishermen etc might not now be taking place! If he'd gone from saying we accept the result to saying we no longer accept the result, I'd be agreeing and wanting to know what had changed, but this? Naaah. |
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Post by felonious on May 11, 2022 11:57:56 GMT
Home working is bad for people with no social lives, I thought you'd be in favour I would've thought home-working would be ideal for people with no social lives? Good try but not sure you've thought that one through, fel Are you advocating complete isolation? Sounds like a lonely existence and the dearth of office romances |
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Post by followyoudown on May 11, 2022 12:24:15 GMT
Without being pedantic that post as it shows starts with a tweet, your claim was both starting and posts plural but yeah I typed it once it seems. Any thoughts on when you decided Dom was not really a person of honesty and integrity? Bit of a weird question any posts to back up where I claimed he was these things to begin with ? His job was to get things done and get a particular narrative into the press much like Campbell's was for Blair. He got brexit through where others would have failed so for that we should all be thankful  I presume this is coming from my comment the other day re Starmer still being in trouble if he is let off with a warning, my point being the general public still believe Cummings lied so the fine or warning is irrelevant the public has already made its mind up, yes I used everyone instead of the general public but I'd assume the everyone would not be taken literally... |
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Post by OldStokie on May 11, 2022 13:53:30 GMT
I'm a Lefty/Liberal/Wokey or whatever anyone who isn't a fascist is called these days, but part of me wants Starmer to be found guilty. He tries to come across as somebody with honour but he didn't show much of that when he, along with others he's surrounded himself with, was stabbing Corbyn in the back. Corbyn could have won the 2017 election against May if Starmer and his bunch hadn't undermined his chances. And he's as bland as tap water. But I suppose I could swallow my bile for anybody who gets rid of this unpleasant bunch of miscreants and outright crooks.
OS.
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Post by followyoudown on May 13, 2022 9:52:51 GMT
As always the Labour party concentrates on fighting the real enemy the other bit of the Labour party.......
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 13, 2022 10:02:59 GMT
As always the Labour party concentrates on fighting the real enemy the other bit of the Labour party....... Starmer has literally gone back on every single promise he made to get himself elected. He should go. |
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Post by Gob Bluth on May 13, 2022 13:10:26 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on May 13, 2022 20:13:11 GMT
As always the Labour party concentrates on fighting the real enemy the other bit of the Labour party....... Classic party politics. Labour backbenchers are labour’s biggest enemy, and tory backbenchers are always the tories’ biggest enemy. I hate party politics. Do away with political parties. Vote for policies. |
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