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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 10, 2022 9:44:57 GMT
Talking of hypocrisy.....
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Post by knype on May 10, 2022 9:55:45 GMT
We will wait for you to change your list... Why don't you try to string more than a sentence together, go through that list I put up and tell me which ones are factually incorrect? I'll happily revise it if you can do so. I'll wait... I'll probably be asleep from your blinkered boring ramblings, I sepcifically commented on the covid side of your rant!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 10, 2022 10:47:57 GMT
So uptight, Pratick, get yourself up the hills and take some piccies, unwind a bit Give him a chance, it's early and he hasn't had chance to bully Essex Stokie yet with some 'hilarious' quips Ah yes, he was rather heavily involved in a fairly unpleasant pile-on about another poster's dyslexia. I do hope it wasn't one of those "predictable and pernicious ad hominem attacks" he so deplores
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 10, 2022 10:52:38 GMT
Why don't you try to string more than a sentence together, go through that list I put up and tell me which ones are factually incorrect? I'll happily revise it if you can do so. I'll wait... I'll probably be asleep from your blinkered boring ramblings, I sepcifically commented on the covid side of your rant! Indulge me, try a bit harder, put a bit of effort in, go for more than one sentence... Which bits of the Covid section that I posted are factually incorrect, or bollocks as I believe you said! Here they are again, to make it easier for you... Worst Covid death toll in Europe. Biggest Covid economic hit out of the entire G7. Corruption and fraud in Covid procurement. Btw, I get that you want it to be bollocks but you just saying that doesn't make it so! Provide the evidence and I'll happily take it back, as I said. I'll wait...
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Post by elystokie on May 10, 2022 10:59:19 GMT
Give him a chance, it's early and he hasn't had chance to bully Essex Stokie yet with some 'hilarious' quips Ah yes, he was rather heavily involved in a fairly unpleasant pile-on about another poster's dyslexia. I do hope it wasn't one of those "predictable and pernicious ad hominem attacks" he so deplores I think the 'pile on' on this occasion mightn't have been quite what was hoped for by the participants It's been going on a while now, it's almost as though it's all some have left to use, very sad to see (presumably) grown men acting in such a way.
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Post by partickpotter on May 10, 2022 11:22:48 GMT
Ah yes, he was rather heavily involved in a fairly unpleasant pile-on about another poster's dyslexia. I do hope it wasn't one of those "predictable and pernicious ad hominem attacks" he so deplores I think the 'pile on' on this occasion mightn't have been quite what was hoped for by the participants It's been going on a while now, it's almost as though it's all some have left to use, very sad to see (presumably) grown men acting in such a way. Blimey... do we have another member of the self righteous brigade? Here's the deal. See if you come on here and post ceaseless drivel, as the tiresome threesome continually do, expect some response every now and then.
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Post by elystokie on May 10, 2022 11:30:42 GMT
I think the 'pile on' on this occasion mightn't have been quite what was hoped for by the participants It's been going on a while now, it's almost as though it's all some have left to use, very sad to see (presumably) grown men acting in such a way. Blimey... do we have another member of the self righteous brigade? Here's the deal. See if you come on here and post ceaseless drivel, as the tiresome threesome continually do, expect some response every now and then. Don't know how you'd define 'self righteous' but if it's thinking that bullying someone with obvious and self confessed grammar issues, makes the people doing the bullying look somewhat sad then I'm probably quilty as charged The nature of the response to whatever it is that's causing you obvious issues doesn't necessarily have to be personal does it?
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 10, 2022 12:00:46 GMT
I look forward to you finding a single post I started in the way you suggest. Awkward. Again... Thanks for that. The nausea it induces has not lessened with time.
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Post by partickpotter on May 10, 2022 13:00:05 GMT
Blimey... do we have another member of the self righteous brigade? Here's the deal. See if you come on here and post ceaseless drivel, as the tiresome threesome continually do, expect some response every now and then. Don't know how you'd define 'self righteous' but if it's thinking that bullying someone with obvious and self confessed grammar issues, makes the people doing the bullying look somewhat sad then I'm probably quilty as charged The nature of the response to whatever it is that's causing you obvious issues doesn't necessarily have to be personal does it? I've no issue with his spelling. It's the puerile content of what he posts that is tiresome. An unrelenting stream of drivel. That isn't a consequence of dyslexia. It's something though he shares with the his two buddies. That said, you are quite right. No need for personal comments. My bad on that.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 10, 2022 13:05:22 GMT
It would be fantastic if Starmer resigns and someone decent takes over, providing proper competition for the Tories and getting them into gear a bit more. This country needs a strong government and a strong opposition and at the moment it has neither. They're only 'decent' if they are backed by the MSM and not slandered. The only way a Labour government can get in in this country is when the current Tory government are so bad AND when Labour have some conservative policies in their manifesto (i.e. are more centre-leaning). It's these things that get the media on side. Most people don't have the capacity to think critically and just form their opinions of people and parties based on the front pages of newspapers. That applies to both sides as well. Not really much else to say. Only GE victory that didn't go the way of the self-serving Tories in the past forty years was when The Sun backed 'em in 97. Sad state of affairs really.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 10, 2022 13:25:38 GMT
Don't know how you'd define 'self righteous' but if it's thinking that bullying someone with obvious and self confessed grammar issues, makes the people doing the bullying look somewhat sad then I'm probably quilty as charged The nature of the response to whatever it is that's causing you obvious issues doesn't necessarily have to be personal does it? I've no issue with his spelling. It's the puerile content of what he posts that is tiresome. An unrelenting stream of drivel. That isn't a consequence of dyslexia. It's something though he shares with the his two buddies. That said, you are quite right. No need for personal comments. My bad on that. Hmmm your emphasis on the spelling of indefensible...think someone's being a bit 'Johnson-esque' with the truth here... No stupidity here unlike those who openly defend the indifencadle Tory party
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Post by partickpotter on May 10, 2022 13:28:10 GMT
I've no issue with his spelling. It's the puerile content of what he posts that is tiresome. An unrelenting stream of drivel. That isn't a consequence of dyslexia. It's something though he shares with the his two buddies. That said, you are quite right. No need for personal comments. My bad on that. Hmmm your emphasis on the spelling of indefensible...think someone's being a bit 'Johnson-esque' with the truth here... Did I say something about tiresome?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 10, 2022 13:36:50 GMT
Hmmm your emphasis on the spelling of indefensible...think someone's being a bit 'Johnson-esque' with the truth here... Did I say something about tiresome? Come on, Pratick, man up for once in your life, everyone can see you (and others) enjoyed mocking Essex over his spelling and grammar, just acknowledge it, apologise and move on. I made precisely the same mistake with waga. Took the piss out of his English, he (very politely) told me he's always struggled as a result of dyslexia and I apologised straightaway. It's not fucking difficult. Then perhaps, in that small way, the board becomes a slightly better place. Or is thinking along those lines too sanctimonious, self-righteous or tiresome in your eyes?
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Post by partickpotter on May 10, 2022 13:45:25 GMT
Did I say something about tiresome? Come on, Pratick, man up for once in your life, everyone can see you (and others) enjoyed mocking Essex over his spelling and grammar, just acknowledge it, apologise and move on. I made precisely the same mistake with waga. Took the piss out of his English, he (very politely) told me he's always struggled as a result of dyslexia and I apologised straightaway. It's not fucking difficult. Then perhaps, in that small way, the board becomes a slightly better place. Or is thinking along those lines too sanctimonious, self-righteous or tiresome in your eyes? Well, aren't you such a goody two shoes. Here's a thought on how to make the board a slightly better place... you stop posting so much pish. Go on. Give it a go.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 10, 2022 14:18:02 GMT
Don't know how you'd define 'self righteous' but if it's thinking that bullying someone with obvious and self confessed grammar issues, makes the people doing the bullying look somewhat sad then I'm probably quilty as charged The nature of the response to whatever it is that's causing you obvious issues doesn't necessarily have to be personal does it? I've no issue with his spelling. It's the puerile content of what he posts that is tiresome. An unrelenting stream of drivel. That isn't a consequence of dyslexia. It's something though he shares with the his two buddies. That said, you are quite right. No need for personal comments. My bad on that. You've been guilty of this for quite some time. Good of you to apologise to Essex though, well done.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 10, 2022 14:37:58 GMT
Come on, Pratick, man up for once in your life, everyone can see you (and others) enjoyed mocking Essex over his spelling and grammar, just acknowledge it, apologise and move on. I made precisely the same mistake with waga. Took the piss out of his English, he (very politely) told me he's always struggled as a result of dyslexia and I apologised straightaway. It's not fucking difficult. Then perhaps, in that small way, the board becomes a slightly better place. Or is thinking along those lines too sanctimonious, self-righteous or tiresome in your eyes? Well, aren't you such a goody two shoes. Here's a thought on how to make the board a slightly better place... you stop posting so much pish. Go on. Give it a go. Ah, when doing the right thing makes you a goody two shoes in some folks' eyes! Some unpleasant characters around, that's for sure.
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Post by partickpotter on May 10, 2022 14:45:54 GMT
Well, aren't you such a goody two shoes. Here's a thought on how to make the board a slightly better place... you stop posting so much pish. Go on. Give it a go. Ah, when doing the right thing makes you a goody two shoes in some folks' eyes! Some unpleasant characters around, that's for sure. None more unpleasant than you fella. That’s for sure.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 10, 2022 14:55:02 GMT
Ah, when doing the right thing makes you a goody two shoes in some folks' eyes! Some unpleasant characters around, that's for sure. None more unpleasant than you fella. That’s for sure. Fella Yeah, cos I mock people's grammar and spelling, refer to people on here as stupid all the time, right? Let's be honest, like a number of people on here, you take yourself and the place far too seriously and don't handle disagreement and dissent very well.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2022 14:58:17 GMT
Talking of hypocrisy..... That’s awful. If I lied under oath I could never work as a lawyer again. Why are MPs not held to that standard? They need to be regulated.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 10, 2022 15:01:20 GMT
Talking of hypocrisy..... That’s awful. If I lied under oath I could never work as a lawyer again. Why are MPs not held to that standard? They need to be regulated. They do. And by an external body, not effectively by themselves, as appears to be the case at the moment. The police used to do that, investigation by other forces. It was rightly dropped in favour of the IPCC. Something similar would be a step in the right direction. Call me cynical, but you can kind of understand why they resist such a move, given the recent examples. There'd be none left!
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Post by partickpotter on May 10, 2022 15:04:34 GMT
None more unpleasant than you fella. That’s for sure. Fella Yeah, cos I mock people's grammar and spelling, refer to people on here as stupid all the time, right? Let's be honest, like a number of people on here, you take yourself and the place far too seriously and don't handle disagreement and dissent very well. I’ve wasted too much time and taken up too much of this thread in a pointless exchange with the most pointless poster on the oatcake. I think I’ll quit. You carry on with your jibberish though.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2022 15:33:12 GMT
That’s awful. If I lied under oath I could never work as a lawyer again. Why are MPs not held to that standard? They need to be regulated. They do. And by an external body, not effectively by themselves, as appears to be the case at the moment. The police used to do that, investigation by other forces. It was rightly dropped in favour of the IPCC. Something similar would be a step in the right direction. Call me cynical, but you can kind of understand why they resist such a move, given the recent examples. There'd be none left! Doormen (and women!) are more heavily regulated than MPs. In no other profession could you behave as they do and get away with it without repercussions. A great example is that civil servants are not allowed second jobs. It is strictly prohibited in their contracts. But many MPs (mostly Tories) make the majority of their money through second jobs. Yet Rees-Mogg has the audacity to complain that civil servants work from home, when he falls asleep in Parliament and earns millions through his second job. Part timer.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 10, 2022 15:38:18 GMT
Fella Yeah, cos I mock people's grammar and spelling, refer to people on here as stupid all the time, right? Let's be honest, like a number of people on here, you take yourself and the place far too seriously and don't handle disagreement and dissent very well. I’ve wasted too much time and taken up too much of this thread in a pointless exchange with the most pointless poster on the oatcake. I think I’ll quit. You carry on with your jibberish though. Sensible choice. Feel free to rejoin when you don't feel the need to be quite so personal towards those with whom you disagree. Oh, and when you do, as I'm sure you will, if I happen to disagree with something you've posted, it's simply because I happen to disagree, not to provoke or take the piss or make you feel angry or frustrated or any of the other outcomes I suspect happen quite often with you, judging by the nature of your posts, when someone expresses a difference of opinion. If you could bear that in mind, I'm sure the discussion would be loads better.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 10, 2022 15:40:29 GMT
They do. And by an external body, not effectively by themselves, as appears to be the case at the moment. The police used to do that, investigation by other forces. It was rightly dropped in favour of the IPCC. Something similar would be a step in the right direction. Call me cynical, but you can kind of understand why they resist such a move, given the recent examples. There'd be none left! Doormen (and women!) are more heavily regulated than MPs. In no other profession could you behave as they do and get away with it without repercussions. A great example is that civil servants are not allowed second jobs. It is strictly prohibited in their contracts. But many MPs (mostly Tories) make the majority of their money through second jobs. Yet Rees-Mogg has the audacity to complain that civil servants work from home, when he falls asleep in Parliament and earns millions through his second job. Part timer. I think MPs voted recently not to bar themselves entirely from having second jobs, just paid lobbying and the like. That would've helped to eliminate a great deal of corruption for a start. If we need to pay them more, say £100k a year for a job as an MP and that's all, then so be it.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 10, 2022 15:52:09 GMT
They do. And by an external body, not effectively by themselves, as appears to be the case at the moment. The police used to do that, investigation by other forces. It was rightly dropped in favour of the IPCC. Something similar would be a step in the right direction. Call me cynical, but you can kind of understand why they resist such a move, given the recent examples. There'd be none left! Doormen (and women!) are more heavily regulated than MPs. In no other profession could you behave as they do and get away with it without repercussions. A great example is that civil servants are not allowed second jobs. It is strictly prohibited in their contracts. But many MPs (mostly Tories) make the majority of their money through second jobs. Yet Rees-Mogg has the audacity to complain that civil servants work from home, when he falls asleep in Parliament and earns millions through his second job. Part timer. None of them should have second jobs. Not one of them.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 11, 2022 5:53:11 GMT
I see the Daily Mail has finally dropped its campaign to try to drag Starmer down to the same level as Johnson and Sunak.
12 days of front pages was it? Don't they know there's a war on!
Like the other Tory papers, notably the Telegraph, they now appear to be launching a campaign against home-working. I don't really get this since most people want the choice, enjoy the better work-life balance and it's an effective way of cutting GHG emissions and reducing commuting costs at a time when people are strapped.
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Post by partickpotter on May 11, 2022 6:21:15 GMT
I see the Daily Mail has finally dropped its campaign to try to drag Starmer down to the same level as Johnson and Sunak. 12 days of front pages was it? Don't they know there's a war on! Like the other Tory papers, notably the Telegraph, they now appear to be launching a campaign against home-working. I don't really get this since most people want the choice, enjoy the better work-life balance and it's an effective way of cutting GHG emissions and reducing commuting costs at a time when people are strapped. Home working is great for the well off, middle aged (and above), established middle class living in comfortable, spacious sub urban homes where they can take advantage of their spare room as a home office and save money on commutes. Your typical Guardian reader for example. Not so good for the young living in substantially less comfortable circumstances at the start of their careers who need the help and support of their colleagues, particularly senior ones not just peers, as they learn their way in their new jobs. The problem, of course is, while these younger people benefit substantially from a vibrant office environment this needs the older folk to make that environment. Us older folk, and I include myself in that, need to acknowledge our role in helping younger people develop and do what it takes to make that happen.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 11, 2022 6:25:16 GMT
I see the Daily Mail has finally dropped its campaign to try to drag Starmer down to the same level as Johnson and Sunak. 12 days of front pages was it? Don't they know there's a war on! Like the other Tory papers, notably the Telegraph, they now appear to be launching a campaign against home-working. I don't really get this since most people want the choice, enjoy the better work-life balance and it's an effective way of cutting GHG emissions and reducing commuting costs at a time when people are strapped. Home working don’t get me started. I guess it’s down to the individual but imo there’s way too much of it. 2 cases from me. Met my mate (I do have one) for a gig and he hadn’t seen anyone other than at School drop offs in 2 years and when he gave me a big hug I didn’t think he was going to let go. He said it was great for looking after the kids but he missed the office banter and seeing his workmates so much. For some it might be the answer. I spoke to a lady who’s just come pack on a reduced 2 day in 3 out and her words were “let’s me get my washing done.” In relation to services like SWorkers they’re meeting on teams. How can that be good for someone vulnerable that they’re supposed to be engaging with. Also how long will it take before the executives suss out it might be cheaper to pay people overseas to work at home? As you can tell I’m not a fan.
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Post by knype on May 11, 2022 6:25:29 GMT
I see the Daily Mail has finally dropped its campaign to try to drag Starmer down to the same level as Johnson and Sunak. 12 days of front pages was it? Don't they know there's a war on! Like the other Tory papers, notably the Telegraph, they now appear to be launching a campaign against home-working. I don't really get this since most people want the choice, enjoy the better work-life balance and it's an effective way of cutting GHG emissions and reducing commuting costs at a time when people are strapped. He's put himself into that position himself, not the media. Home working is bad IMO, good for the individuals but bad for a lot of other things, local shops, transport companies, councils etc etc etc
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Post by foster on May 11, 2022 7:11:05 GMT
The option to work from home is great as long as there's a requirement to go to the office occasionally.
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