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Post by crapslinger on Oct 28, 2020 12:57:17 GMT
Wrong again Mo. you really do make a habit of being wrong don't you liked by a multi poster you must be proud Well if you don't know why your inane right wing drivel was deleted, I can't help you. I didn't see your post. What did you say? I simply offered to pop into the Tam when you were in there to give you the opportunity to call me a racist in person, anything right wing about that
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Post by thevoid on Oct 28, 2020 13:58:55 GMT
If you live in 'The Cot' no wonder you're a bit tetchy 😆 I do not. Not sure why you would think living there would make someone tetchy though.....although I can guess! Well it's nothing to do with race if that's what you're insinuating. My neighbours are Asian and make a great Jalfrezi!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 28, 2020 14:35:43 GMT
Well if you don't know why your inane right wing drivel was deleted, I can't help you. I didn't see your post. What did you say? I simply offered to pop into the Tam when you were in there to give you the opportunity to call me a racist in person, anything right wing about that What would you be doing in Normacot? Doing one of your seminar's on multiculturalism?
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 28, 2020 14:40:35 GMT
I simply offered to pop into the Tam when you were in there to give you the opportunity to call me a racist in person, anything right wing about that What would you be doing in Normacot? Doing one of your seminar's on multiculturalism? Having a pint and giving you the opportunity to call me a racist to my face, let me know when you are next in the Tam, PM me if it's easier !
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 28, 2020 14:51:41 GMT
What would you be doing in Normacot? Doing one of your seminar's on multiculturalism? Having a pint and giving you the opportunity to call me a racist to my face, let me know when you are next in the Tam, PM me if it's easier !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 15:23:52 GMT
Having a pint and giving you the opportunity to call me a racist to my face, let me know when you are next in the Tam, PM me if it's easier ! Offer to meet in Cobridge. He breaks out in cold sweats whenever he even hears the name......
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 28, 2020 15:56:12 GMT
BTP say they have no record, interestingly both the sun and the guardian have run stories hinting at something not quite being right, one to watch. Meanwhile, back on topic, still waiting for the "something not quite right" to come to the fore... ...the reality couldn't be simply a slightly desperate attempt at mud-slinging in the hope that some might stick, could it? I love the report in the Telegraph about this today. Last para is always a good go-to with any DT story: "Later that afternoon he reported the incident to the police station in accordance with the law. Since the incident, he has also been in touch with the other individual involved". Much greater reporting precedence than that though: "news" from Starmer's tailor on what kind of suits he wears! And criticism on what kind of car he drives! Desperate stuff.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 28, 2020 17:03:37 GMT
Having a pint and giving you the opportunity to call me a racist to my face, let me know when you are next in the Tam, PM me if it's easier ! I take it that you declining the opportunity to act like a man and call me racist to my face, feel safe behind your keyboard do you Mo. I wouldn't be so sure
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 28, 2020 18:17:36 GMT
I take it that you declining the opportunity to act like a man and call me racist to my face, feel safe behind your keyboard do you Mo. I wouldn't be so sure 😃
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Post by lommack on Oct 28, 2020 20:56:49 GMT
I take it that you declining the opportunity to act like a man and call me racist to my face, feel safe behind your keyboard do you Mo. I wouldn't be so sure Why are you becoming all unnecessary about being called a racist.....when you most of what you write suggests it? Own it man!
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 28, 2020 22:03:16 GMT
I take it that you declining the opportunity to act like a man and call me racist to my face, feel safe behind your keyboard do you Mo. I wouldn't be so sure Why are you becoming all unnecessary about being called a racist.....when you most of what you write suggests it? Own it man! Prove it man "when you most of what you write suggests it" thick fecker
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 28, 2020 22:05:55 GMT
I take it that you declining the opportunity to act like a man and call me racist to my face, feel safe behind your keyboard do you Mo. I wouldn't be so sure 😃 Man up Mo. are your balls shrinking ? are you a man or a mouse
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Post by lommack on Oct 28, 2020 22:23:18 GMT
Why are you becoming all unnecessary about being called a racist.....when you most of what you write suggests it? Own it man! Prove it man "when you most of what you write suggests it" thick fecker Oh God how can i prove it? Where will the evidence be? Thick fecker
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 16:00:42 GMT
And so it begins....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2020 16:44:37 GMT
At least Labour are now '20 points ahead' against one of the most reviled and despised Governments in recent history.....
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 29, 2020 17:27:43 GMT
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 29, 2020 17:33:55 GMT
‘He doesn’t do what is right he just does what is politically convenient’ Their leader is Boris fucking Johnson
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2020 19:07:25 GMT
Bye Lisa. Someone as principled as the moral beacon, Sir Kier will have you out for this. Surely....won't he?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 30, 2020 16:57:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 17:26:02 GMT
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 30, 2020 18:09:25 GMT
I would expect Labour to take a hit in the polls in a couple of weeks, as these things always seem to take a little while to filter down. It will be a decent indication of how much Starmer has been able to limit the damage.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 31, 2020 8:53:31 GMT
I would expect Labour to take a hit in the polls in a couple of weeks, as these things always seem to take a little while to filter down. It will be a decent indication of how much Starmer has been able to limit the damage. Perfectly sensible point, RRP. I suspect Starmer will be anticipating at least some negative impact but looking to the long-term overall and hoping that acting decisively to deal with the issue of anti-Semitism will reflect better in the minds of the general public who rejected Corbyn's Labour at the last election, than it inevitably has in the minds of his supporters. Seems the sensible approach.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 6, 2020 13:36:47 GMT
Latest opinion poll from yougov doesn't appear to show much damage from the Anti-semitism report. But why should it really? Starmer is putting distance between himself and the previous Labour leadership and acted quickly when he needed to. Both of which have probably gone down fairly well with the general voting public. Add in the ongoing disaster management that is the Covid fiasco and you have a five point lead for Labour... a ten point lead for Starmer over Johnson as PM docs.cdn.yougov.com/w35fkmlez4/TheTimes_VI_Tracker_201105_W1.pdf
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 13, 2020 20:16:10 GMT
Meanwhile.....the alternative
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 13, 2020 20:55:49 GMT
Meanwhile.....the alternative Jokes aside, you're not really gonna vote for these nutjobs are you mate?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 13, 2020 21:05:24 GMT
Polls right now are largely irrelevant for 3 reasons (aside from highlighting the obvious - Boris is a prick).
1) Boris will not be standing to be PM in 4 years
2) There's still 4 years left
3) There will be a new party coming along that will massively fuck up the elitest two party establishment we have in this country. Its gonna be a great watch.
For the first time in British history, I genuinely believe a new party that goes hard on the silent majority issues is going to take millions of votes. If a one messaged (albeit a good message) disorganised UKIP can become the country's third most popular party from a stand still position (4.5 million votes in 2015), then just imagine the chaos a more organised, credible, multi dimensional equivalent could do.
All parties in Parliament have totally lost the people and become completely unelectable.
The only hope for the Tories is that they can overthrow Boris in the next 12 months and try to regain some form of sensible foothold that supports economic prosperity, democracy, civil liberties, border control, development for the North and enforces law and order where necessary. While also condemning cancel culture, the wokedom riddled lamestream media and wider woke culture.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 13, 2020 21:11:37 GMT
Latest opinion poll from yougov doesn't appear to show much damage from the Anti-semitism report. But why should it really? Starmer is putting distance between himself and the previous Labour leadership and acted quickly when he needed to. Both of which have probably gone down fairly well with the general voting public. Add in the ongoing disaster management that is the Covid fiasco and you have a five point lead for Labour... a ten point lead for Starmer over Johnson as PM docs.cdn.yougov.com/w35fkmlez4/TheTimes_VI_Tracker_201105_W1.pdfStarmer having a brain, being a serial achiever and acting like a grown-up will also go well in his favour. Purging/gutting/lancing/removing anti-semites and, probably more pertinently, anti-semites who don't actually know they are shows positive leadership. Meanwhile the current incumbents continue to fight like rats in a sack. Truss, Williamson, Raab hold secretary positions whilst stalwarts like Grieve, Soames even May are either no longer in Parliament or shoved to the backbenches. Biggest worry for Starmer is the wider team. Ashworth sounds good, so does Dodds. Raynor could be a vote killer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 21:47:53 GMT
Latest opinion poll from yougov doesn't appear to show much damage from the Anti-semitism report. But why should it really? Starmer is putting distance between himself and the previous Labour leadership and acted quickly when he needed to. Both of which have probably gone down fairly well with the general voting public. Add in the ongoing disaster management that is the Covid fiasco and you have a five point lead for Labour... a ten point lead for Starmer over Johnson as PM docs.cdn.yougov.com/w35fkmlez4/TheTimes_VI_Tracker_201105_W1.pdfStarmer having a brain, being a serial achiever and acting like a grown-up will also go well in his favour. Purging/gutting/lancing/removing anti-semites and, probably more pertinently, anti-semites who don't actually know they are shows positive leadership. Meanwhile the current incumbents continue to fight like rats in a sack. Truss, Williamson, Raab hold secretary positions whilst stalwarts like Grieve, Soames even May are either no longer in Parliament or shoved to the backbenches. Biggest worry for Starmer is the wider team. Ashworth sounds good, so does Dodds. Raynor could be a vote killer. He’s not purged a single antisemite from the party. And it’s as divided now as it’s ever been......
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 13, 2020 22:42:14 GMT
Latest opinion poll from yougov doesn't appear to show much damage from the Anti-semitism report. But why should it really? Starmer is putting distance between himself and the previous Labour leadership and acted quickly when he needed to. Both of which have probably gone down fairly well with the general voting public. Add in the ongoing disaster management that is the Covid fiasco and you have a five point lead for Labour... a ten point lead for Starmer over Johnson as PM docs.cdn.yougov.com/w35fkmlez4/TheTimes_VI_Tracker_201105_W1.pdfStarmer having a brain, being a serial achiever and acting like a grown-up will also go well in his favour. Purging/gutting/lancing/removing anti-semites and, probably more pertinently, anti-semites who don't actually know they are shows positive leadership. Meanwhile the current incumbents continue to fight like rats in a sack. Truss, Williamson, Raab hold secretary positions whilst stalwarts like Grieve, Soames even May are either no longer in Parliament or shoved to the backbenches. Biggest worry for Starmer is the wider team. Ashworth sounds good, so does Dodds. Raynor could be a vote killer. Yes, I agree. I said before that having an electable leader is a big first step and goes a long way. However, for the party as a whole to be a creditable alternative government, and we mustn't lose sight of the fact that England is essentially a right-wing country terrified of anything else, they'll need more than Starmer being better than Bluffer. At least all of the main Shadow Cabinet posts will need to be filled by decent performers and they don't have enough of that yet to get past England's fear of anything other than what they're used to. I can't see them overturning an 80 seat majority, especially when the Tories ditch the Bluffer. Given the mess the country's in, you'd think the fact that roughly 70% of the last 41 years have been right-wing governments would have some impact. But the right is brilliant at three things: forever passing the blame onto someone else; reinforcing the myth that the last decade of austerity was Labour's fault rather than the financial crisis caused by the banking sector; terrifying voters with the alternative. All of which leads us to where we are.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 14, 2020 15:33:31 GMT
Starmer having a brain, being a serial achiever and acting like a grown-up will also go well in his favour. Purging/gutting/lancing/removing anti-semites and, probably more pertinently, anti-semites who don't actually know they are shows positive leadership. Meanwhile the current incumbents continue to fight like rats in a sack. Truss, Williamson, Raab hold secretary positions whilst stalwarts like Grieve, Soames even May are either no longer in Parliament or shoved to the backbenches. Biggest worry for Starmer is the wider team. Ashworth sounds good, so does Dodds. Raynor could be a vote killer. He’s not purged a single antisemite from the party. And it’s as divided now as it’s ever been...... But he has lanced the main boil of the Party and removed him. Left a lot of people gutted too, so 3 out of 4 already isn't bad. A purging could be on the cards following the implementation of recommendations. It is divided you're right, just waiting for the disciples to come round to the idea of an electable leader and Labour will be well on their way. The glorious centre shall return once more.
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