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Post by wannabee on Mar 30, 2024 10:31:06 GMT
Not one direct quote but a number of meetings referenced where named people attended but aren't quoted. A very strange Article. Haven't seen the particular literature but I'm sure there would be some disquiet if its appearance resembled some of the stuff put out by the Far Right.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 30, 2024 11:34:08 GMT
Not one direct quote but a number of meetings referenced where named people attended but aren't quoted. A very strange Article. Haven't seen the particular literature but I'm sure there would be some disquiet if its appearance resembled some of the stuff put out by the Far Right. I hate the way the union jack has to some extent been appropriated by the far right. The far right ironically hate this country more than most I would say.
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Post by desman2 on Mar 30, 2024 12:08:51 GMT
Why is it always " far right ". Why not right, why not centre right.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 30, 2024 12:25:24 GMT
Why is it always " far right ". Why not right, why not centre right. Maybe I should have been more explicit, I consider BNP and NF as Far Right. I consider Reform Reclaim and Brexit Party as Right-wing Populist/Nationalist. I consider Conservative Party Centre Right but with far more Members they embrace a wide spectrum. YMMV.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 30, 2024 12:28:22 GMT
Why is it always " far right ". Why not right, why not centre right. Maybe I should have been more explicit, I consider BNP and NF as Far Right. I consider Reform Reclaim and Brexit Party as Right-wing Populist/Nationalist. I consider Conservative Party Centre Right but with far more Members they embrace a wide spectrum. YMMV. Is Corbyn Far left populist?
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Post by desman2 on Mar 30, 2024 12:36:19 GMT
I can actually resonate with some of Corbyns ideas, but I can also resonate with some of Farages so where does that leave me. And I think that is part of the problem today. We have no gap to occupy. As I see it now their is no real difference between Labour and Tory as they both seem to be following the same ideas. Their may be a few tweaks on how it gets delivered but we always seem to end up in the same place, and in my 60 years of both, it's never been a good place.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 30, 2024 12:59:24 GMT
I dont understand this at all.
It says right at the top of the piece ... "Members say flag may alienate ethnic minority voters as some associate it with far right."
Which goes back to the 70's and 80's when the NF and the BNP would march through highly populated immigrant areas and for many people the flag (sadly) became synonymous with a good old bit of p_ki bashing ...
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Post by Davef on Mar 30, 2024 13:18:30 GMT
I dont understand this at all.
It says right at the top of the piece ... "Members say flag may alienate ethnic minority voters as some associate it with far right."
Which goes back to the 70's and 80's when the NF and the BNP would march through highly populated immigrant areas and for many people the flag (sadly) became synonymous with a good old bit of p_ki bashing ...
I swear these Labour activists don't want to see their party in power. Grow a pair Starmer and remember that you have to appeal to the majority.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 30, 2024 13:42:20 GMT
Maybe I should have been more explicit, I consider BNP and NF as Far Right. I consider Reform Reclaim and Brexit Party as Right-wing Populist/Nationalist. I consider Conservative Party Centre Right but with far more Members they embrace a wide spectrum. YMMV. Is Corbyn Far left populist? Corbyn is certainly Left-wing and Populist, how far Left may depend on your point of view.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 30, 2024 13:53:08 GMT
Is Corbyn Far left populist? Corbyn is certainly Left-wing and Populist, how far Left may depend on your point of view. I think Left and Right, Far Left , Far Right, Populist does usually depend upon a person's point of view and political position.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 30, 2024 13:58:12 GMT
Corbyn is certainly Left-wing and Populist, how far Left may depend on your point of view. I think Left and Right, Far Ledt , Far Right, Populist does usually depend upon a person's point of view and political position. Which is why I said to Desman YMMV
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Post by desman2 on Mar 30, 2024 14:28:35 GMT
I dont understand this at all. It says right at the top of the piece ... "Members say flag may alienate ethnic minority voters as some associate it with far right." Which goes back to the 70's and 80's when the NF and the BNP would march through highly populated immigrant areas and for many people the flag (sadly) became synonymous with a good old bit of p_ki bashing ...
I can guarantee you that many on those marches were trade unions and trade union members concerned about having their jobs taken. Its not always straight cut and dry.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 30, 2024 15:23:25 GMT
I think Left and Right, Far Ledt , Far Right, Populist does usually depend upon a person's point of view and political position. Which is why I said to Desman YMMV Far too clever for me again Wannabee. I'd not come across the mileage thing , and the varying of it confuses me. I'm still not sure what exactly you/ it means but I'm going to presume we agree.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 30, 2024 15:33:32 GMT
It says right at the top of the piece ... "Members say flag may alienate ethnic minority voters as some associate it with far right." Which goes back to the 70's and 80's when the NF and the BNP would march through highly populated immigrant areas and for many people the flag (sadly) became synonymous with a good old bit of p_ki bashing ...
I can guarantee you that many on those marches were trade unions and trade union members concerned about having their jobs taken. Its not always straight cut and dry. Eh? I was explaining to Adrian where the link in the story came from, I didn't say anything else.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 30, 2024 15:38:54 GMT
Which is why I said to Desman YMMV Far too clever for me again Wannabee. I'd not come across the mileage thing , and the varying of it confuses me. I'm still not sure what exactly you/ it means but I'm going to presume we agree. It means 'does usually depend upon a person's point of view'.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 30, 2024 16:48:36 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 30, 2024 19:39:01 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 31, 2024 11:08:16 GMT
Easter Sunday🙄
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Post by wannabee on Mar 31, 2024 11:16:44 GMT
It has been on the same day since Biden proclaimed it in 2021 .... 31st March
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 31, 2024 11:20:51 GMT
It has been on the same day since Biden proclaimed it in 2021 .... 31st March How unfortunate then
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 31, 2024 12:32:18 GMT
It’s easy to acknowledge them both separately.
Or ignore both.
Or ignore one, but not the other.
Hope this helps?
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 31, 2024 14:01:18 GMT
That tweet doesn’t show one article U turns on what was said in the other.
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Post by Davef on Mar 31, 2024 14:26:01 GMT
Depending on what ladies toilet/changing room you go to, everyday can be trans visibility day.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 31, 2024 16:32:28 GMT
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 31, 2024 17:36:02 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 31, 2024 17:37:03 GMT
What as a bloke or a woman😊
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Post by iancransonsknees on Apr 2, 2024 2:16:29 GMT
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Post by gawa on Apr 3, 2024 11:26:27 GMT
www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/03/sam-tarry-deselected-labour-mp-complaint-vote-rigging"Tarry’s complaint to Labour alleges that Athwal was one of the Labour councillors who owned a property where Labour members were listed as living, and who had indicated they would vote for Athwal. When they canvassed the address, Tarry’s team says they were told by tenants that the members listed had moved out but that someone else collected their post. The MP is considering taking legal action to obtain Anonyvoter records and may yet seek an injunction to block Athwal from being the official Ilford South candidate." This sounds proper dodgy.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 3, 2024 11:57:27 GMT
What as a bloke or a woman😊 Before and after?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 3, 2024 12:21:57 GMT
What as a bloke or a woman😊 Before and after? Who knows🤷♂️infact who cares,fookin weirdo’s
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