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Post by thfc67 on Apr 4, 2020 17:17:44 GMT
I came across the highlights of this match (24 mins) on YouTube by chance last night, and couldn't remember it. I watched it without checking the result. It wasn't a good game, there was a strong wind blowing that day. But, some observations:
Peter Shilton was a great goalkeeper.
Steve Perryman was a great (Spurs) player - Consistent, always gave 100%
No player, when fouled, rolled around, holding their face as if in agony.
Martin Chivers' beard (?)
Ralph Coates' hair (??)
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, Stoke had no badge on their shirts.
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Post by lordb on Apr 4, 2020 17:25:43 GMT
I came across the highlights of this match (24 mins) on YouTube by chance last night, and couldn't remember it. I watched it without checking the result. It wasn't a good game, there was a strong wind blowing that day. But, some observations: Peter Shilton was a great goalkeeper. Steve Perryman was a great (Spurs) player - Consistent, always gave 100% No player, when fouled, rolled around, holding their face as if in agony. Martin Chivers' beard (?) Ralph Coates' hair (??) Also, correct me if I'm wrong, Stoke had no badge on their shirts. Think I'm right in saying apart from the League Cup final and one season in the 50's we never had a badge on the shirts until the Durban/Umbro era |
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Post by werrington on Apr 4, 2020 17:30:11 GMT
I came across the highlights of this match (24 mins) on YouTube by chance last night, and couldn't remember it. I watched it without checking the result. It wasn't a good game, there was a strong wind blowing that day. But, some observations: Peter Shilton was a great goalkeeper. Steve Perryman was a great (Spurs) player - Consistent, always gave 100% No player, when fouled, rolled around, holding their face as if in agony. Martin Chivers' beard (?) Ralph Coates' hair (??) Also, correct me if I'm wrong, Stoke had no badge on their shirts. The roof blew off our stand the night before that game and the replay was put back to 4th round day ( we won 2-1 ) as it was unsafe for the midweek |
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Post by milky on Apr 4, 2020 17:44:50 GMT
I came across the highlights of this match (24 mins) on YouTube by chance last night, and couldn't remember it. I watched it without checking the result. It wasn't a good game, there was a strong wind blowing that day. But, some observations: Peter Shilton was a great goalkeeper. Steve Perryman was a great (Spurs) player - Consistent, always gave 100% No player, when fouled, rolled around, holding their face as if in agony. Martin Chivers' beard (?) Ralph Coates' hair (??) Also, correct me if I'm wrong, Stoke had no badge on their shirts. The roof blew off our stand the night before that game and the replay was put back to 4th round day ( we won 2-1 ) as it was unsafe for the midweek Indeed mate. And the 4th round game v Man City which we won 1-0 was played midweek. Unless my memory is playing tricks Greenhoff scored at the far post up the Stoke End and the highlights were on Sportsnight that night yet to the best of my knowledge no footage of this game exists ? |
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Apr 4, 2020 17:53:53 GMT
I was there. It's funny that Brian Moore mentions the strong wind, as Mick points out, the roof blew off the Butler Street stand and the replay was postponed. My main memory of that day at WHL was the row we had with Spurs after the game, outside Silver Street station, it was like Custer's Last Stand and they were the injuns.  |
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Post by werrington on Apr 4, 2020 18:01:35 GMT
The roof blew off our stand the night before that game and the replay was put back to 4th round day ( we won 2-1 ) as it was unsafe for the midweek Indeed mate. And the 4th round game v Man City which we won 1-0 was played midweek. Unless my memory is playing tricks Greenhoff scored at the far post up the Stoke End and the highlights were on Sportsnight that night yet to the best of my knowledge no footage of this game exists ? He did indeed mate....diving header We succumbed to 2nd division Sunderland in the next round after a replay |
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Post by thfc67 on Apr 4, 2020 18:03:44 GMT
I was there. It's funny that Brian Moore mentions the strong wind, as Mick points out, the roof blew off the Butler Street stand and the replay was postponed. My main memory of that day at WHL was the row we had with Spurs after the game, outside Silver Street station, it was like Custer's Last Stand and they were the injuns. Did you go to Silver Street, rather then the nearer White Hart Lane station, because of potential trouble, or did the police 'organize' it? |
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Post by kevkj on Apr 4, 2020 18:13:46 GMT
Think this was the game when we took a special train with hardly anyone on it.
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Post by leicspotter on Apr 4, 2020 18:16:13 GMT
Indeed mate. And the 4th round game v Man City which we won 1-0 was played midweek. Unless my memory is playing tricks Greenhoff scored at the far post up the Stoke End and the highlights were on Sportsnight that night yet to the best of my knowledge no footage of this game exists ? He did indeed mate....diving header We succumbed to 2nd division Sunderland in the next round after a replay That turned out to be an aside to the real story...losing Jimmy Greenhoff  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 18:57:55 GMT
As a kid I always remember the FA Cup as being a trophy that other teams seemed to have a run in but never us. I did read once that over a period of time we were 91st out of 92 teams in terms of FA Cup results, ahead of only Rochdale.
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Apr 4, 2020 19:03:28 GMT
I was there. It's funny that Brian Moore mentions the strong wind, as Mick points out, the roof blew off the Butler Street stand and the replay was postponed. My main memory of that day at WHL was the row we had with Spurs after the game, outside Silver Street station, it was like Custer's Last Stand and they were the injuns. Did you go to Silver Street, rather then the nearer White Hart Lane station, because of potential trouble, or did the police 'organize' it? One of the lads organised a couple of coaches (a certain C. Hughes from the Parish of Newcastle -U-L). In order to avoid being welcomed by the Met, it was thought a good idea to park up by Silver Street. The walk back after the game was best described as lively and eventful. However that just proved to be the warm up to the main event a few minutes later. We got back to Silver Street in dribs and drabs only to find the coaches had been moved on by the Met. We had to wait for them to be escorted back to pick us up. Word must have got round the bush telegraph that there were about 100 of us loitering about, causing the natives to get restless. Next thing we know it's a full blown, backs against the wall, toe to toe, stop the traffic, brawl. The Met turned up to quieten things down with honours even, for our part this was mainly thanks to C.Hughes' "man management" skills. |
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Post by thfc67 on Apr 4, 2020 19:20:00 GMT
Did you go to Silver Street, rather then the nearer White Hart Lane station, because of potential trouble, or did the police 'organize' it? One of the lads organised a couple of coaches (a certain C. Hughes from the Parish of Newcastle -U-L), in order to avoid being welcomed by the Met it was thought a good idea to park up by Silver Street. The walk back after the game was best described as lively and eventful. However that just proved to be the warm up to the main event a few minutes later. We got back to Silver Street in dribs and drabs only to find the coaches had been moved on by the Met. We had to wait for them to be escorted back to pick us up. Word must have got round the bush telegraph that there were about 100 of us loitering about, causing the natives to get restless. Next thing we know it's a full blown, backs against the wall, toe to toe, stop the traffic, brawl. The Met turned up to quieten things down with honours even, for our part this was mainly to C.Hughes "man management" skills. It did occur to me after I posted my question, it was something to do with coaches. Those days seem so distant to me now, maybe because they are. Going to away games in the 1970's could be hairy; before, during, and especially after. Saying that, local derbys at Spurs (Arsenal, Chelsea and West Ham) could be just as bad if not worse. |
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Post by standbutler1 on Apr 4, 2020 19:38:43 GMT
Went this game as a 14yearold on my own. went on a footy special out side the ground there were two ques I went for the smallest (bad mistake) the big que was for the seating area where most of the stoke fans were. I ended up in the away end only about twenty of us in a group surrounded by spuds. Police walked us around the track and escorted us out the main entrance. Then left us to go straight into there mob without protection. got me nose broke and then me mum hit me when I got back home for fighting. The reply I remember because I saw the bully that picked on me in the boothen with about 40 others couldn't get near him as they were getting battered left right and centre.
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Post by lordb on Apr 4, 2020 19:45:02 GMT
As a kid I always remember the FA Cup as being a trophy that other teams seemed to have a run in but never us. I did read once that over a period of time we were 91st out of 92 teams in terms of FA Cup results, ahead of only Rochdale. Essentially Stokes record in the FA Cup since it began in 1872 is nothing short of scandalous |
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Post by thfc67 on Apr 4, 2020 20:02:20 GMT
Spurs and Stoke were in decline at the time, after a good run and some success in the early !970's, Both teams got relegated the following season.
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Post by neddy on Apr 4, 2020 20:06:21 GMT
Did you go to Silver Street, rather then the nearer White Hart Lane station, because of potential trouble, or did the police 'organize' it? One of the lads organised a couple of coaches (a certain C. Hughes from the Parish of Newcastle -U-L), in order to avoid being welcomed by the Met it was thought a good idea to park up by Silver Street. The walk back after the game was best described as lively and eventful. However that just proved to be the warm up to the main event a few minutes later. We got back to Silver Street in dribs and drabs only to find the coaches had been moved on by the Met. We had to wait for them to be escorted back to pick us up. Word must have got round the bush telegraph that there were about 100 of us loitering about, causing the natives to get restless. Next thing we know it's a full blown, backs against the wall, toe to toe, stop the traffic, brawl. The Met turned up to quieten things down with honours even, for our part this was mainly to C.Hughes "man management" skills. |
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Post by neddy on Apr 4, 2020 20:06:21 GMT
Did you go to Silver Street, rather then the nearer White Hart Lane station, because of potential trouble, or did the police 'organize' it? One of the lads organised a couple of coaches (a certain C. Hughes from the Parish of Newcastle -U-L), in order to avoid being welcomed by the Met it was thought a good idea to park up by Silver Street. The walk back after the game was best described as lively and eventful. However that just proved to be the warm up to the main event a few minutes later. We got back to Silver Street in dribs and drabs only to find the coaches had been moved on by the Met. We had to wait for them to be escorted back to pick us up. Word must have got round the bush telegraph that there were about 100 of us loitering about, causing the natives to get restless. Next thing we know it's a full blown, backs against the wall, toe to toe, stop the traffic, brawl. The Met turned up to quieten things down with honours even, for our part this was mainly to C.Hughes "man management" skills. |
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Post by neddy on Apr 4, 2020 20:07:12 GMT
One of the lads organised a couple of coaches (a certain C. Hughes from the Parish of Newcastle -U-L), in order to avoid being welcomed by the Met it was thought a good idea to park up by Silver Street. The walk back after the game was best described as lively and eventful. However that just proved to be the warm up to the main event a few minutes later. We got back to Silver Street in dribs and drabs only to find the coaches had been moved on by the Met. We had to wait for them to be escorted back to pick us up. Word must have got round the bush telegraph that there were about 100 of us loitering about, causing the natives to get restless. Next thing we know it's a full blown, backs against the wall, toe to toe, stop the traffic, brawl. The Met turned up to quieten things down with honours even, for our part this was mainly to C.Hughes "man management" skills. The Coda Hughes now that takes me back! |
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Post by standbutler1 on Apr 4, 2020 20:11:35 GMT
wasn't coda shot in a pub at an away game in Ipswich ?
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Post by neddy on Apr 4, 2020 20:14:11 GMT
wasn't coda shot in a pub at an away game in Ipswich ? Indeed... |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 4, 2020 20:20:44 GMT
The roof blew off our stand the night before that game and the replay was put back to 4th round day ( we won 2-1 ) as it was unsafe for the midweek Indeed mate. And the 4th round game v Man City which we won 1-0 was played midweek. Unless my memory is playing tricks Greenhoff scored at the far post up the Stoke End and the highlights were on Sportsnight that night yet to the best of my knowledge no footage of this game exists ? I'm sure it was itv not sportsnight. |
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Post by thfc67 on Apr 4, 2020 20:37:56 GMT
Indeed mate. And the 4th round game v Man City which we won 1-0 was played midweek. Unless my memory is playing tricks Greenhoff scored at the far post up the Stoke End and the highlights were on Sportsnight that night yet to the best of my knowledge no footage of this game exists ? I'm sure it was itv not sportsnight. Here are highlights of the replay. The Stoke v Spurs game starts at 5:12. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 20:59:26 GMT
Spurs and Stoke were in decline at the time, after a good run and some success in the early !970's, Both teams got relegated the following season. Spurs came straight back up of course. My first ever home defeat seeing Stoke was that season. Think the great Gerry Armstrong scored twice, Crooks for us, finished 1-3. He's still describing the goal as we speak with his long drawn out rubbish. |
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Post by standbutler1 on Apr 4, 2020 21:01:02 GMT
Good find thfc
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Post by kevkj on Apr 4, 2020 21:07:29 GMT
Spurs fans were evil back then.Surging down on that videoafter Stoke score.
The agro back in the late 70s after the game by the police station i will never forget.Stoke could handle themselves at home generally.This day it was like men against boys.
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Post by thfc67 on Apr 4, 2020 21:22:01 GMT
Spurs and Stoke were in decline at the time, after a good run and some success in the early !970's, Both teams got relegated the following season. Spurs came straight back up of course. My first ever home defeat seeing Stoke was that season. Think the great Gerry Armstrong scored twice, Crooks for us, finished 1-3. He's still describing the goal as we speak with his long drawn out rubbish. Yes, we bounced straight back, just; after finishing third on goal difference above Brighton. Correct, Armstrong scored twice and John Pratt got the other goal. Crooks was loved at Spurs, his partnership with Steve Archibald is legendary (at Spurs). |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 21:39:41 GMT
Spurs came straight back up of course. My first ever home defeat seeing Stoke was that season. Think the great Gerry Armstrong scored twice, Crooks for us, finished 1-3. He's still describing the goal as we speak with his long drawn out rubbish. Yes, we bounced straight back, just; after finishing third on goal difference above Brighton. Correct, Armstrong scored twice and John Pratt got the other goal. Crooks was loved at Spurs, his partnership with Steve Archibald is legendary (at Spurs). Liked him at Stoke until he became the worst pundit in the history of the game. Scored on his Spurs debut I remember on MOTD. I even remember him introducing TOTP |
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Post by lordb on Apr 4, 2020 22:09:48 GMT
Yes, we bounced straight back, just; after finishing third on goal difference above Brighton. Correct, Armstrong scored twice and John Pratt got the other goal. Crooks was loved at Spurs, his partnership with Steve Archibald is legendary (at Spurs). Liked him at Stoke until he became the worst pundit in the history of the game. Scored on his Spurs debut I remember on MOTD. I even remember him introducing TOTP I like him, completely bonkers Far worse than him,see Keown |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Apr 4, 2020 23:23:43 GMT
Spurs and Stoke were in decline at the time, after a good run and some success in the early !970's, Both teams got relegated the following season. Stoke followed the Derby County Pattern of big spending. Derby got two titles, but we both declined. The ironic thing is, Liverpool and Man Utd spent peanuts on key players and prospered (Phil Neal, Jimmy Case, Kevin Keegan, Steve Coppell, Gordon Hill to name a few). |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 23:44:37 GMT
Spurs and Stoke were in decline at the time, after a good run and some success in the early !970's, Both teams got relegated the following season. Stoke followed the Derby County Pattern of big spending. Derby got two titles, but we both declined. The ironic thing is, Liverpool and Man Utd spent peanuts on key players and prospered (Phil Neal, Jimmy Case, Kevin Keegan, Steve Coppell, Gordon Hill to name a few). Wasn't Gordon Hill signed from the NASL or am I thinking of Steve Hunt? I know Hunt played there before the 1st division. Edit- Just Googled he was on loan at Chicago Sting from Millwall. Could have swore was Detroit Express but may be Trevor Francis. I had an Express jersey as a kid. |
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