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Post by Stokie in Sydney on Mar 18, 2020 0:01:28 GMT
They can say what they want. People being isolated this weekend due to being at risk won't be out of isolation until June. Twelve weeks wasn't a random timeframe: it's the time required to go past the infection peak in two months and out the other side. No way will football clubs even begin to start training again until June at the very earliest. Some clubs still are training though? www.theguardian.com/football/2020/mar/16/premier-league-club-by-club-how-are-they-dealing-with-coronavirusPlay the rest of the games behind closed doors and allow all games to be streamed via a paid website.
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Post by kustokie on Mar 18, 2020 2:18:01 GMT
They can say what they want. People being isolated this weekend due to being at risk won't be out of isolation until June. Twelve weeks wasn't a random timeframe: it's the time required to go past the infection peak in two months and out the other side. No way will football clubs even begin to start training again until June at the very earliest. Some clubs still are training though? www.theguardian.com/football/2020/mar/16/premier-league-club-by-club-how-are-they-dealing-with-coronavirusPlay the rest of the games behind closed doors and allow all games to be streamed via a paid website. This would be a very bad idea and highly irresponsible. Four NBA players have tested positive. You cannot have players getting close to each other, either in training or in a game. Coronavirus is highly contagious and fatal for those with risk factors such as age, heart disease, lung disease and diabetes. Young people may not get that ill but they are still carriers and anyone acting irresponsibly could be signing a death sentence for their older relatives. The peak will hit sometime in the summer. There will be no sport or public gatherings until the autumn at the very earliest.
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Post by kustokie on Mar 18, 2020 2:26:02 GMT
IMHO the season is now over and will not be resumed. The leagues will finish as they are with Liverpool as Champions. There may have to be some radical solution for the promotion and relegation issues. I do not think football will resume this year. Season 2020/2021 may have to be abandoned. Life is more important than football in spite of what Bill Shankly thought. I agree this season is write-off. But it’s not just sport that is affected. The world economy will dive into recession in the next month for sure, one million people will lose their jobs in the US in the next month. If the coronavirus is not brought under control, there could be 20 million unemployed just in the US. That’s depression territory. If that happens, a lot of teams will go under, not just here but all over the world. This is going to be very, very bad. It needs to be treated like a war because that’s what it is.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 18, 2020 7:33:11 GMT
Yes and I want no holds barred night with Jennifer Aniston but I don't think that's going to happen.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 18, 2020 7:56:46 GMT
Why the negative responses to this statement? All they have said is they want to finish the season, no ridiculous claims about when they want to restart games or when they must be finished by, I don't see the problem.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 18, 2020 8:00:19 GMT
Why the negative responses to this statement? All they have said is they want to finish the season, no ridiculous claims about when they want to restart games or when they must be finished by, I don't see the problem. The way things are going mate I just don't see how we can finish this season, it looks like end of May to June before we can even think about a start date and that alone brings big problems re out of contract players just for starters.
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Post by scfc75 on Mar 18, 2020 8:03:40 GMT
Yes and I want no holds barred night with Jennifer Aniston but I don't think that's going to happen. Keep the faith.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 18, 2020 8:04:48 GMT
Why the negative responses to this statement? All they have said is they want to finish the season, no ridiculous claims about when they want to restart games or when they must be finished by, I don't see the problem. The way things are going mate I just don't see how we can finish this season, it looks like end of May to June before we can even think about a start date and that alone brings big problems re out of contract players just for starters. All options have problems associated with them but none are insurmountable and the legal minefield of not finishing will be terrible. Nothing says next season has to start in August and we may have to radical in how next season is organised to get back on track for season 21/22.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Mar 18, 2020 8:19:56 GMT
The league was suspended due to the outbreak of WWI and WWII. Looking at the records for the latter the season was abandoned in September with Blackpool on top of the league: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939%E2%80%9340_Football_LeagueNow, admittedly, they had only played a handful of games. What's the rules if an individual match is abandoned part way through? Does the result stand if a certain percentage was played? The only other option would be to resume the league later, delaying next season and so forth until we've caught up in a couple of years time. But that affects Euros and World Cup schedules, and I'm pretty sure the money in those competitions supersedes the importance of the league in the eyes of the authorities.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 18, 2020 9:27:52 GMT
The way things are going mate I just don't see how we can finish this season, it looks like end of May to June before we can even think about a start date and that alone brings big problems re out of contract players just for starters. All options have problems associated with them but none are insurmountable and the legal minefield of not finishing will be terrible. Nothing says next season has to start in August and we may have to radical in how next season is organised to get back on track for season 21/22. I'm not saying I don't want it to resume mate, far from it, it's only been a week and I'm bored shitless already, I just think it's an impossible situation and as for legalities of it I don't think any court in the land would allow damages in these circumstances.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 18, 2020 11:44:21 GMT
Still seems wildly optimistic. www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11195988/premier-league-games-coronavirus-plan-closed-doors-live-tv-neutral-grounds/Their masterplan is to play all of the remaining 92 games BEHIND CLOSED DOORS with every game in neutral venues at a separate time, live on TV.
The proposal offered by a section of Prem clubs would see two or three grounds host the games, most likely in the Midlands.
Grounds could even stage MORE than one game a day with teams playing every THREE DAYS in a race to pack in the fixtures, if and when the government grant approval.
By using only a limited number of stadiums that would help keep numbers of medical and police needed down to a minimum.
Neutral venues would also help avoid home fans turning up at games
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 18, 2020 11:48:53 GMT
Still seems wildly optimistic. www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11195988/premier-league-games-coronavirus-plan-closed-doors-live-tv-neutral-grounds/Their masterplan is to play all of the remaining 92 games BEHIND CLOSED DOORS with every game in neutral venues at a separate time, live on TV.
The proposal offered by a section of Prem clubs would see two or three grounds host the games, most likely in the Midlands.
Grounds could even stage MORE than one game a day with teams playing every THREE DAYS in a race to pack in the fixtures, if and when the government grant approval.
By using only a limited number of stadiums that would help keep numbers of medical and police needed down to a minimum.
Neutral venues would also help avoid home fans turning up at games
Still will involve a lot of people having to go out to work for this project to work.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 18, 2020 11:51:07 GMT
I don't see the issue, just finish the season at the next available opportunity , if that is 8 months away then it is 8 months away. It will be the same for everyone.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 18, 2020 11:53:20 GMT
They can say what they want. People being isolated this weekend due to being at risk won't be out of isolation until June. Twelve weeks wasn't a random timeframe: it's the time required to go past the infection peak in two months and out the other side. No way will football clubs even begin to start training again until June at the very earliest. Some clubs still are training though? www.theguardian.com/football/2020/mar/16/premier-league-club-by-club-how-are-they-dealing-with-coronavirusPlay the rest of the games behind closed doors and allow all games to be streamed via a paid website.
There's about 4 clubs currently training according to that article. Most are either in lockdown or have closed training grounds currently.
It isn't going to happen mate,
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Post by StaffordPotter on Mar 18, 2020 11:56:03 GMT
Personally I'd just scrap this season. It's causing more headaches and stress to get the thing completed, there's more pressing issues than football.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 18, 2020 12:12:28 GMT
Personally I'd just scrap this season. It's causing more headaches and stress to get the thing completed, there's more pressing issues than football. so what's the difference between the headache and stress of starting a new season and the headache and stress of finishing this season?
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Post by mickey2693 on Mar 18, 2020 12:29:58 GMT
Personally I'd just scrap this season. It's causing more headaches and stress to get the thing completed, there's more pressing issues than football. so what's the difference between the headache and stress of starting a new season and the headache and stress of finishing this season? The difference is next season. If they scrapped this season, next season could probably be played as normal. If they complete this season in a few months time it'd have a knock on effect for every season to come. More games would have to be played in a shorter space of time somewhere down the line, and with the fixture congestion already bad, that might be tricky.
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Post by oldpotter1950 on Mar 18, 2020 12:49:07 GMT
they are having a meeting today apparently to try and sort the championship fixtures out, obviously teams like leeds,west brom and notts forest want to finish the season off because they think there is a good chance they will go up to the premiership.the thing is we don't know how long this thing will go on for so this season could blend into next season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 12:49:35 GMT
Still seems wildly optimistic. www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11195988/premier-league-games-coronavirus-plan-closed-doors-live-tv-neutral-grounds/Their masterplan is to play all of the remaining 92 games BEHIND CLOSED DOORS with every game in neutral venues at a separate time, live on TV.
The proposal offered by a section of Prem clubs would see two or three grounds host the games, most likely in the Midlands.
Grounds could even stage MORE than one game a day with teams playing every THREE DAYS in a race to pack in the fixtures, if and when the government grant approval.
By using only a limited number of stadiums that would help keep numbers of medical and police needed down to a minimum.
Neutral venues would also help avoid home fans turning up at games
Absolute dickheads.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 18, 2020 13:02:19 GMT
The league was suspended due to the outbreak of WWI and WWII. Looking at the records for the latter the season was abandoned in September with Blackpool on top of the league: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939%E2%80%9340_Football_LeagueNow, admittedly, they had only played a handful of games. What's the rules if an individual match is abandoned part way through? Does the result stand if a certain percentage was played? The only other option would be to resume the league later, delaying next season and so forth until we've caught up in a couple of years time. But that affects Euros and World Cup schedules, and I'm pretty sure the money in those competitions supersedes the importance of the league in the eyes of the authorities. The normal football league was suspended during the war, but football did continue in the form of 10 war leagues, and a war cup competition instead of the FA Cup. The issue then of course was travel rather than cross infection. Due to travel restrictions players played for local teams where they were based and guested for other clubs/teams. Matthews played played over 200 times for various teams while serving in the RAF, including Blackpool as a guest and even for Scotland against an army team. My post above was based on two main points. Firstly that it is only right and proper that the season is concluded properly when normality returns, which I accept may be a long time. This means for example that players extend their contracts to complete the 2019-2020 season. Secondly that the 2020-2021 season is drastically truncated and the clubs play in smaller divisions, such as a Prem1 and Prem 2, Champ 1 and Champ2 etc. for one season to get back to normal service in 2021-2022. Those who think we should abandon this season and simply start again as normal in August are being very optimistic I feel.
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Post by jamie75 on Mar 18, 2020 13:26:10 GMT
Yes and I want no holds barred night with Jennifer Aniston but I don't think that's going to happen. I read that as no holes barred
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Post by oldpotter1950 on Mar 18, 2020 13:29:31 GMT
the thing is the longer this goes on the football clubs have still got to pay wages to players staff and the like, a lot of clubs rely on matchday money obviously ,plus it will effect a lot of the suppliers who's livelihood depends on football clubs.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 18, 2020 13:34:06 GMT
Why the negative responses to this statement? All they have said is they want to finish the season, no ridiculous claims about when they want to restart games or when they must be finished by, I don't see the problem. It's quite obvious. The only way we can still go down is for the season to continue, so naturally most Stoke fans want the season scrapped to guarantee survival. Just as all Liverpool and Leeds fans will do anything to get the season finished including cancelling next season if necessary, finishing this season whenever it's possible in autumn or winter and starting next season in August 2021.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 13:40:17 GMT
I think that would be incredibly stupid of them. But I would kill to see some football.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 13:51:00 GMT
Yes and I want no holds barred night with Jennifer Aniston but I don't think that's going to happen. I used to work in her home town of Sherman Oaks. Sadly our paths never crossed. I often wonder what could have been had she come to the pub quiz in the Oaks or popped into Earth 2 Comics for the new issue of The Flash.
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Post by wrighter on Mar 18, 2020 15:39:38 GMT
Personally I'd just scrap this season. It's causing more headaches and stress to get the thing completed, there's more pressing issues than football. Yes, God the whingeing scousers would be in meltdown
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Post by march4 on Mar 18, 2020 16:26:03 GMT
It looks like schools might be closed until September.
If that is the case then next season won’t be starting on time.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Mar 18, 2020 17:20:31 GMT
The league was suspended due to the outbreak of WWI and WWII. Looking at the records for the latter the season was abandoned in September with Blackpool on top of the league: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939%E2%80%9340_Football_LeagueNow, admittedly, they had only played a handful of games. What's the rules if an individual match is abandoned part way through? Does the result stand if a certain percentage was played? The only other option would be to resume the league later, delaying next season and so forth until we've caught up in a couple of years time. But that affects Euros and World Cup schedules, and I'm pretty sure the money in those competitions supersedes the importance of the league in the eyes of the authorities. The normal football league was suspended during the war, but football did continue in the form of 10 war leagues, and a war cup competition instead of the FA Cup. The issue then of course was travel rather than cross infection. Due to travel restrictions players played for local teams where they were based and guested for other clubs/teams. Matthews played played over 200 times for various teams while serving in the RAF, including Blackpool as a guest and even for Scotland against an army team. My post above was based on two main points. Firstly that it is only right and proper that the season is concluded properly when normality returns, which I accept may be a long time. This means for example that players extend their contracts to complete the 2019-2020 season. Secondly that the 2020-2021 season is drastically truncated and the clubs play in smaller divisions, such as a Prem1 and Prem 2, Champ 1 and Champ2 etc. for one season to get back to normal service in 2021-2022. Those who think we should abandon this season and simply start again as normal in August are being very optimistic I feel. My granddad was one of those who guested for a number of teams during WWI, including Stoke incidentally. My point being that the league itself was suspended for WWI and WWII when the season was already under way. The season in each case was simply abandoned, albeit in September in both cases when far fewer games had been played. But there is precedent in abandoning a season in extraordinary circumstances. I guess it all depends on how long it goes on for. If we're still in a pandemic until the summer, then you're into the preparations for the 2020 / 2021 season and then approaching the re-arranged Euros in 2021. There might simply not be enough time to complete this season's fixtures. If you think it's unfair on teams not completing the season, imagine suddenly finding yourself in a Prem 2 or Champ 2 etc. next season. And imagine the economic impact on lower league teams of half the number of 2020 / 2021 fixtures, immediately following a disrupted 2019 / 2020 season's cashflow.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Mar 18, 2020 17:42:41 GMT
Got a sneaky suspicion our game vs Barnsley won't go ahead on the 4th of April.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 18, 2020 17:51:31 GMT
Got a sneaky suspicion our game vs Barnsley won't go ahead on the 4th of April. He's a witch.
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